Disney’s Q1 FY24 Earnings Results Webcast

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Lol. What in todays call makes you think that?
What about it makes you think he’s wrong?
The subtext here is leveraging itself for stock gains…and not a thing leads to actual park additions…

The things we park fans actually care about? Not dvc trailers or cruise ships?

Something not with an add on fee to your $170 daily ticket?

I have simple needs

Disney Has ‘Turned the Corner’ After a Strong Quarter, Iger Says​

By Brooks Barnes​
Feb. 7, 2024Updated 5:40 p.m. ET​
Robert A. Iger has insisted for months that his turnaround plan for Disney was working. But distinct proof has been elusive, and investors, as evidenced by the company’s underperforming stock price and multiple proxy campaigns by activists for board seats, have been hesitant to buy in.​
On Wednesday, Mr. Iger delivered financial proof — along with a flurry of announcements about future entertainment offerings, including a “Moana” sequel, the arrival of Taylor Swift’s concert movie on Disney+, a partnership with Epic Games to create a Disney universe connected to Fortnite, and the 2025 rollout of a flagship ESPN streaming service that includes the sports giant’s primary programming.​
“Just one year ago, we outlined an ambitious plan to return the Walt Disney Company to a period of sustained growth and shareholder value creation,” Mr. Iger said in a statement. “Our strong performance this past quarter demonstrates we have turned the corner.”​
Mr. Iger said that Disney’s multiyear partnership with Epic Games was the company’s “biggest entry ever into the world of games and offers significant opportunities for growth and expansion.” Disney acquired a $1.5 billion stake in Epic as part of the deal.​
Disney shares climbed 7 percent in after-hours trading to about $106.​
Disney’s per-share earnings for the most recent quarter totaled $1.22, or 23 percent more than Wall Street had expected. Breaking from a long practice of not providing guidance about profit, Disney said per-share earnings for its full fiscal year would increase by at least 20 percent compared with 2023, in part because of record highs in revenue, profit and operating margins at its theme parks.​
Mr. Iger, Disney’s chief executive, announced a $3 billion stock buyback plan, the company’s first since 2018, and a cash dividend of 45 cents a share, a 50 percent increase compared with the previous dividend, which was paid in January.​
Disney’s streaming service had been expected to lose $400 million in the quarter. Instead, losses were trimmed to $138 million, as Mr. Iger reiterated that streaming would be profitable by the fall. Disney+ subscribers dipped 1.3 million in the quarter, as expected given a monthly price increase. But Disney said the service was on track to add at least 5.5 million subscribers in the current quarter.​
Some investors have been worried about Disney’s ability to generate free cash flow, a closely followed measure of financial health, at a time when its television business has been undercut by streaming services. Disney, however, said it was on track to deliver $8 billion in free cash flow this year, nearing prepandemic levels.​
The results come amid severe pressure on Disney from activist investors, including Trian Fund Management, which is seeking multiple board seats as it pushes for streaming profitability and a clear plan for chief executive succession, something that has bedeviled Disney. Trian, founded by Nelson Peltz, has cited Disney’s depressed stock price as its motivation.​
Disney sees a revenge story: Mr. Peltz is aligned with Ike Perlmutter, who was ousted from an executive job at Disney, and Jay Rasulo, a former Disney executive who was passed over for chief executive in 2015 and resigned. Disney has asked shareholders to reject Trian and another activist investor, Blackwells Capital, arguing that giving them board seats would slow the company’s turnaround effort. (Mr. Peltz waged an unsuccessful campaign for a Disney shake-up last year.)​
“The last thing that we need right now is to be distracted, in terms of our time, our energy, by an activist or activists that frankly have a completely different agenda, and don’t understand our company, its assets, even the essence of the Disney brand,” Mr. Iger said on CNBC on Wednesday.​
A Trian spokesman had no immediate comment.​
Mr. Iger used part of Disney’s quarterly conference call with analysts to emphasize progress in fortifying ESPN amid an uncertain future. A decade ago, more than 100 million households paid for a cable or satellite television package that included ESPN. Now the total is closer to 70 million, going down to an analyst-projected 50 million by 2027.​
Disney will introduce a flagship ESPN streaming service in 2025, “probably in the fall, maybe as early as late August,” Mr. Iger said. The service will feature most of the programming currently seen on the primary ESPN cable channel. It will also offer sports betting, extensive statistics, fantasy sports, e-commerce and have “robust” personalization capabilities. (The flagship ESPN service will be separate from ESPN+, a streaming app that offers more niche programming.)​
In addition, Disney, Fox and Warner Bros. Discovery announced on Tuesday that they would join together and sell access to all of the sports they televised (across 14 cable channels) through yet another new streaming service. It will be available this fall. Other details, like price or who would run the service, are not yet known.​
Disney’s theme park and consumer products division delivered $3.1 billion in profit, an 8 percent increase compared with a year ago. Revenue climbed 4 percent to $6.3 billion. For the first time ever, all of Disney’s overseas theme parks were profitable, including the long-troubled Hong Kong Disneyland.​
I guess the “paper of record” can be bought pretty cheaply these days?
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
It is certainly interesting.

California parks are seeing growth (Disneyland and Universal Hollywood both show gains), Florida parks seem to be declining (WDW and Universal Florida both show declines).

Is it a waiting game for next year? Are tourists skipping Florida simply due to Epic (which only really just had its splashy announcement, so the general public are really only now learning more about the new park), or are other... factors keeping people away?
From different articles I've read tourism is up in Florida, just not in Orlando.
 

SplashJacket

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Is it a waiting game for next year? Are tourists skipping Florida simply due to Epic (which only really just had its splashy announcement, so the general public are really only now learning more about the new park), or are other... factors keeping people away?
I really don't think a sufficient percentage of tourists are tuned into Epic to know to hold off. Especially not Disney's GA and especially not right now. Universal 3 months before it's announced opening, sure, but I don't really expect it's moving the needle much at the moment.

Potter moved the needle a lot, Potter again, Pandora, Nintendo, etc.

WDW is 5 years removed from a major land addition. I wouldn't expect a singular attraction to move the needle nearly as much when compared to a whole land, which makes sense given the fractional investment and draw.

That's not to say don't build singular attractions (they need to do more of that, especially to spread attendance across parks), but we're a half decade removed from a new land. 7 years removed from Pandora.

Granted, due to Covid (and the fractured ride openings), the benefits of GE, for example, were initially diminished and then spread across the revenge-travel boom that we saw.

If they want big numbers go more big big beyond per guest spend, they need large investments, and they realize that.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I can say re: attendance, I received an ad today from Universal Orlando Resort, offering Canadian's 4 days if you buy a 2-day ticket.

Clearly Orlando is soft in general, if they are targeting Canadian's again.
Nobody is saying Orlando isn’t soft as a whole…
That proves it’s been overpriced. It’s the only viable reason.

Also - universal has been running that standard deal in the US for years
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
My question would be, what kind of tourism? Is it the same tourists Orlando would usually see, visiting other areas of Florida?

Is it locals visiting other areas of Florida?

The tourism-marketing agency Visit Florida on Thursday estimated 35.066 million people traveled to Florida during the third quarter of 2023, 1.4 percent more than during the same period of 2022 and 7.9 percent above the total in 2019, the year before the COVID-19 pandemic began.

Visit Florida estimated the state had nearly 2.23 million overseas visitors in the third quarter, up from 1.93 million in the third quarter of 2022. In the third quarter of 2019, the total was 2.5 million.

Also, Canadian travel --- traditionally the top international country of origin for visitors to Florida --- reached 666,000 in the third quarter, topping 561,000 in the third quarter of 2022. For the first nine months of 2023, Florida attracted about 2.8 million Canadians, up from 1.749 million in the same period of 2022.

People are visiting Florida in general but avoiding the parks. That tells me price is keeping them away.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member

The tourism-marketing agency Visit Florida on Thursday estimated 35.066 million people traveled to Florida during the third quarter of 2023, 1.4 percent more than during the same period of 2022 and 7.9 percent above the total in 2019, the year before the COVID-19 pandemic began.

Visit Florida estimated the state had nearly 2.23 million overseas visitors in the third quarter, up from 1.93 million in the third quarter of 2022. In the third quarter of 2019, the total was 2.5 million.

Also, Canadian travel --- traditionally the top international country of origin for visitors to Florida --- reached 666,000 in the third quarter, topping 561,000 in the third quarter of 2022. For the first nine months of 2023, Florida attracted about 2.8 million Canadians, up from 1.749 million in the same period of 2022.

People are visiting Florida in general but avoiding the parks. That tells me price is keeping them away.
Excellent post
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The street sees it as a "beat estimates". The after hours trading is showing an increase.

And you know why…don’t play the fool. It’s not revenue or operating income. It’s they just promised money for nothing by juicing their own shares.

Honestly, this is a good move considering the Peltz and Blackwater proxy fights. This move may help save Disney.
Saving Bob Iger and saving Disney are by no measure the same concepts. They are closer to opposite on 2/7/24
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
My biggest takeaway is that there was a wealth of detail in the forward looking statements for all of the sectors EXCEPT parks, which was brief and vague.
How many of the questions were about the parks? That might also give you some sense of why betting on a Peltz to sweep in and ramp up spending on the small details that didn't generate revenue but helped make the parks special is not likely to pay off.
 

Laketravis

Well-Known Member
How many of the questions were about the parks? That might also give you some sense of why betting on a Peltz to sweep in and ramp up spending on the small details that didn't generate revenue but helped make the parks special is not likely to pay off.

Did you listen to the call? The BOA analyst asked pointed questions about Parks, seemingly the same questions we would have asked. She received no answers.

BOA Analyst: You announced or for the first time I've heard you say this, that in parks 70% of the $60 billion in CapEx that you outlined over the next 10 years, I'm sorry, 70% of that will go to incremental capacity so to $40 billion in parks and attractions.

Can you give us color on timing and location?

There's been speculation you may open a fifth gate in Florida?

BOB: We're already hard at work at basically determining where we are going to place our new investments and what they will be."


That's it. That's all she got.
 
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