Dining Plan to end at OKW?!?!

IWantMyMagicBand

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I just got home from my travel agent (UK). He called me in to say that even though we booked OKW with DDP, it was only pre-registration and they are scrapping dining plans at OKW, and when they go to confirm the booking, Disney will say ddp no longer available at the resort. We are due to go October 2014.
Anyone heard anything about this?
 

Hot Lava

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I concur with all those who have said you need a new TA. There are a lot of UKers on this board. I would see who they use. I have seen mention of Virgin quite a bit. I don't know if that works for you, but in any event it sounds like you could be doing better on the TA front.
 
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Tom

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It's probably none that you are aware of. There are many that aren't on the internet or associated with a Disney site. I know of quite a few, and their clientele are not just the 1%.

I'm the owner of a Disney-focused agency, and I recently had time to network with 500 travel agents and owners at the Earmarked Conference; many are more than willing to share idea and notes on their business models.

I'd clarify your statement by saying that the majority of Disney specialist agencies do not charge fees, however, for those that do, they have clients that come from a wide range of social and economic demographics. Some charge fees starting at $50, some at $100-$150, you don't need to be in the 1% to pay this.

Many of my clients are shocked that we don't charge fees for all of the services we provide and the hours we dedicate to their trips.

There are seriously still people charging for Disney planning services? Wow...just, wow. I guess if they can reel in clients and keep the wool pulled over their eyes, more power to them.
 
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Jo DeVil

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I have just checked the UK version of Disney Travel brochure and in the Virgin Holidays brochure for 2014 and both have DDP for all resorts. I am sorry to say some UK TAs (I can't speak for the other ones) Have no idea about Disney. We were in our local one looking for a last minute summer trip and at the next desk were a couple looking to book a WDW trip, they were told that there are no benefits from staying on site you just get in to some of the parks early once a week!!!! They then went on to say that I drive is the best place don't waste the extra money for Disney its just not worth it, and you would be able to complete all 3 parks in 2 days, so save your money on the passes. She then went away to get some thing, I gave them my email and said don't book anything now, until you know all the facts. They got in touch and I sent them my so you thing your ready to try Disney email, they had a lot of question (which with the help of this site) I answered, I am a big Disney fan and we have never and due to DVC will never have to look at staying off site, but I try to give the perks of off site and on site. They are now going to PORS and have contacted the TA to complain. If I were you cut out the TA and go direct to the Travel Companies, we have used Virgin many times and will in the future, but there are so many companies who you can deal with direct.
 
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DisneyJoe

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There are seriously still people charging for Disney planning services? Wow...just, wow. I guess if they can reel in clients and keep the wool pulled over their eyes, more power to them.

Travel agents that specialize in Disney, yes. (I believe plenty of Disney guidebooks are being sold too?)

Let me lift the wool.

Many wanting to plan a Disney vacation are overwhelmed by info to the point of paralysis; most of my clients are first timers who are overwhelmed by the massive amount of information and changes, my other clients are those that go often and just want someone else to do the work for them. They can't stand calling the Disney call center and being on hold or dealing with inconsistent Cast Members, they hate the Disney website - sound familiar? We do the work for them, we explain the "Disney speak" to them in terms they can understand.

For those that pay, they are paying for a service, just like any other service professional.

Surveys over the last few years show that more people are working with travel agents and are willing to pay for their services. Many predicted that the travel agent was becoming extinct due to the internet, but many find booking engines and call centers to be very impersonal and not consistently helpful.

Many know that travel suppliers like Disney pay the agents a commission for each sale; what many don't realize is that those agents work many many hours, especially to plan a Disney vacation. Take a $2200 Disney vacation, for example, the commission is just over $200; unless the agent is the owner of the agency, this is split sometimes as low as 50/50 with the agent and the owner. Taking into account all of the price quotes that are done before a client books their trip, all of the work consulting with the client to help them with itineraries and dining, explaining Fastpasses etc, one agent can easily work 20 to 40 hours over the course of 6 months or more - all for that $100 or $150 commission - possibly earning $5/hr. Don't forget to subtract out the marketing items that they can give to you - stickers, business cards, magnets, autograph books, and gift cards, and they are lucky they make enough money to help with their yearly Disney vacation. Granted, the more expensive a trip is, the higher this commission is; but sometimes those with more expensive trips demand more attention - and more planning hours.

Those Disney focused agents that value their time and want to make money like a true professional are either charging fees now or they will be soon, IMHO.

This will become even more prevalent as travel suppliers reduce the commission that they pay, the airlines did it years ago, cruise lines are chipping away at it now.

Please excuse the off-topic explanation.

-Joe
 
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Hot Lava

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They then went on to say that I drive is the best place don't waste the extra money for Disney its just not worth it,

This is either someone completely ignorant, or who is getting kickbacks from some I Drive hotels. Did that TA go on to recommend certain hotels in which to stay?
 
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Jeff456

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I concur with all those who have said you need a new TA. There are a lot of UKers on this board. I would see who they use. I have seen mention of Virgin quite a bit. I don't know if that works for you, but in any event it sounds like you could be doing better on the TA front.
We use Virgin, but I am not really looking for any advice from my TA I just book it online, I wouldn't hold up much hope of good information from then if you needed any help, infact I am pretty sure all the mainstream UK TAs would not be able to help you particularly well..
 
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IWantMyMagicBand

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Was talking with a friend last night. I'm still waiting for the confirmation number. Also, my friend suggested that if I am meant to be pretending I am this rep's cousin then surely I would qualify for a family discount, and to mention this to the TA as a way of calling bluff and BS. We come from a small town, I send a lot of business his way.
Does anyone know if those working for Disney get friends/family rates? And would those rates reflect the package that could be booked as rack rate?

I don't use Virgin holidays, I save over 2k when I book separate elements as a package. I only use the TA as a guarantee that my holiday elements are linked (flight + Accom) in case there is a problem with the flight etc such as snow/bad weather/volcanoes, then my accommodation is not sacrificed.
 
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dreamfinder

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Does anyone know if those working for Disney get friends/family rates? And would those rates reflect the package that could be booked as rack rate?

There are CM rates, but those are often in the range of 40% discount. But any confirmations you receive should indicate that price range. It really sounds like the TA isn't working in your best interest, either they want a higher commission if you change to a different destination, or they are just a bit lazy and not working as they should.

If the TA doesn't get you a WDW confirmation number, that you can use to confirm your trip through WDW direct, I'd strongly suggest finding a new one ASAP. I do believe that you can book stuff yourself, and then have the TA take ownership of your booking if you want them to link stuff afterwards. That way you know you are getting what you want for WDW.
 
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