JasonDeyoung
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Me personally would have no issue with this as some people have no common sense with using them. I've never used one nor ever plan on it but I have a feeling they'll eventually be banned with the selfie sticks.
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DHS Security guard suggesting tripod ban might be coming
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Gig 'Em Mickey
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Then security should ask those people not to use them or escort them out. Last trip was the first time I used one. I was very considerate with it, and used it only after park closing or in areas where there was very little crowd.
JasonDeyoung
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Like I said, some people didn't use common sense. Unfortunetly for those that do use them, a few dumb ones will ruin it for you all. Same as selfie sticks.
NowInc
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There are far less incidents or complaints regarding tripod use than there are for selfiesticks..mostly because the majority of use a tripod gets is after dark, outdoors and typically in a static location..where as the selfie sticks are used at all hours in all locations....and are swung around carelessly.
PhotoDave219
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Thats pretty crazy.
My overall observations.... Generally its been a battle between security and turnstiles to tell guests what they can and cannot bring in. A battle between who gets to be the bad guy. My guess is that he just brought it in and no one noticed or cared.
IN 04, I saw someone try bringing in a similar size camera and was on camera while trying to get through the front gate and was stopped pretty quick.
I was accused of professional filming with a dSLR once, but got out of it. (I wasnt)
The most insane thing I saw was a guy at SWW walking around with a 300/2.8 at 8AM. He was quickly stopped and I never saw him again that day.
flynnibus
Premium Member
So don't throw the baby out with the bath water... address the stupid people, not ban what they abuse.
JasonDeyoung
Well-Known Member
Like I said, doesn't effect me so I could care less. If it's an issue or they feel it is becoming one, I have no problem with it. My opionon
JasonDeyoung
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Yeah, I've never had any issues with tripods. Yeah I've seen them set up in spots I probably wouldn't or allow but nothing that serious. Obviously if Disney is kicking people out there is some sort of issue starting with them which I said before. Unfortunetly a few bone heads will ruin it for all the ones who enjoy using them. I hate selfie sticks and they can't ban those soon enough completely
Gig 'Em Mickey
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Somewhat off topic, but I got kicked out of a park in San Francisco a couple months ago for using a tripod. I'm guessing someone tripped on one and sued or something maybe. The guard told me I could buy a permit if I wanted to. I just folded it up and left.
afb28
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Was it a national park? Or just gov't run in general?
Because the "permit" is supposed to be for commercial use and so what happens is Park Rangers (uninformed ones mind you) see a tripod and think it's commercial use. Generally talking to them can help defuse the situation but there are several videos on youtube where they won't take any answer.
It's becoming kind of a big deal in the photography community because a tripod shouldn't determine commercial or not, while allowing people with DSLRs and no tripod are just fine.
Gig 'Em Mickey
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No, this was a private park as far as I know. Yerba Buena gardens in San Francisco. It was definitely private security, not police or park rangers.
I've been to that location before and the policies on their website explicitly bans their use. This is the quote from the site:
"You may take as many snapshots as you wish. However, commercial photo shoots and any photography that involves a tripod, lighting, models, or extra crew requires a photo shoot permit. In order to obtain a permit, proof of insurance is required. Learn more at our Permits & Fees page."
They were perfectly within their rights to do that and in that case you were violating a documented policy for that venue.
Gig 'Em Mickey
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He wasn't rude. Just told me the policy and gave me the option of buying a permit. I told him no thanks and packed up. That was that. I didn't see any signs saying no tripods and I was just walking through the area and saw some cool shots so I walked in. I didn't go seek out their website to see if tripods were allowed ahead of time. It wasn't any big deal. Just threw it out as an example of places banning tripods.
I'm hearing reports from sources I trust that CM training for the new Selfie Stick ban explicitly says that tripods are still allowed within the same boundaries they have always been.
Seems to confirm the theory that the security guard last Saturday was mashing tripods into the upcoming selfie stick ban in error.
Now it's up to all of us who do use a tripod in the parks to make sure we are respectful of other guests and not making an obstruction of ourselves to make sure it stays that way for the future.
Seems to confirm the theory that the security guard last Saturday was mashing tripods into the upcoming selfie stick ban in error.
Now it's up to all of us who do use a tripod in the parks to make sure we are respectful of other guests and not making an obstruction of ourselves to make sure it stays that way for the future.
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afb28
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I always have mixed feelings on this. I feel like the ones of us who are very serious about it have too much money in gear for us to ever put it up where it's gonna get knocked over.
On the flip side, the more people that get into it and bring tripods the more likely an incident will occur. But I would think the barrier of entry is much larger in this space given you'd have to buy a decently priced camera, tripod, and want to carry it around and usually if you are that kind of person you won't be putting it in a place to have it create an incident.
G00fyDad
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Those of you that I have seen using the tripods have always been respectful. I have never once seen one stuck out in the open and someplace it is not supposed to be. Kudos!
That would be my guess as well.. I've often seen more pro-looking rigs in Disney than this guy had. And considering Disney has all manner of CCVs watching you all the time when you are in the park it would be pretty easy to spot someone that was randomly interviewing other guests... you would probably be setting off security alerts all over the place by doing that.
My fear is that some selfie stick junkies will think that since they can still take a tripod or monopod in that they will just take of those in and use it like a selfie stick.... then it will be over for everyone.
NowInc
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Doubtful. First off, tripods are typically too bulky/heavy for more to carry around, even those who feel the need to use a selfie stick. Second, if its being used to extend out from the body, security will simply confiscate it (regardless of what it is).
I don't foresee anyone trying to use a tripod as a selfie stick, but it wouldn't surprise me to see someone trying to use a lightweight monopod as one... And I only wish that Disney would confiscate it when it happens, but I don't have a lot of faith in security at Disney being that harsh considering I have yet to hear them actually banning for using selfie sticks on rides that was against rules even before the total ban went into effect. I think if they had banned some of those selfie nuts way back when they first started popping up on rides that they were banned from we probably wouldn't have ever gotten to the point we are at today where they are simply banned outright.