Disstevefan1
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Folks gotta leave Mission Space alone please.
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Eric Graham
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I really like Wall-E a lot too and Eve as well!
ppete1975
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Id be shocked if it was done before 2028. 4-5 years is what we are looking at with todays pace.
Coaster Lover
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Not necessarily a retheme, but attractions that could be updated just by updating the film/media (FoP, Midway Mania, Soarin', Smuggler's Run, Star Tours, Mission Space) could be low hanging fruit if they wanted "something" new to advertise for 2025 (not that half of those attractions need any reason to attract more guests).
I feel like if they wanted to update RnRC, that could probably be done relatively quick too (especially if they are sticking with the music theme and just need to swap out some media in the pre-show and swap out some cuts ous in the ride section).
Coaster Lover
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
FWIW, it has a height requirement that is 8" shorter than the height requirement for Incredicoaster (which has an IP that is similarly targeted towards kids)
Disnutz311
Disney World Purist
If the C-Suite team wants more IP in every park and you know they do, how hard is it to stop tearing down or reusing existing structures and build on exspansion pads? The demo vs the cost of building essentially a warehouse has to be a little close after you minus site prep. They need more things to help with occupancy of the park not take away.
I don't like it one bit as they are shoe horning things in but they have already started so they might as well finish with a cohesive idea...
Build Zootopia (behind Asia with the entrance between Africa and Asia and move the bird show keeping it removed from the rest, hell take a train to get there)
Moana (Goes to Adventureland expansion Pad with her rides and shops, entrance between Pirates and Jungle)
Shadowlands/Villain Land (give them the whole expansion pad to the north of the river, no Coco no Encanto)
Coco in Mexico Pavillion (Build a new show building behind Elsa's summer house and have the entrance be the jungle next to Mexico on the right outside the Pavillion. Preserving the inside, win win)
Build Costa Rica & Encanto Pavillion/Ride in Epcot
Wall-E in The Land Pavillion
Mary Poppins in United Kingdom
Indy Land at Hollywood Studios (Don't kill me, but Stunt show goes and replace with Indy Boat Ride (Shanghai Pirates Tech) Rollercoaster, and Adventurer's Club 2.0 & Shops/M&G
CarsLand (Replace Animation Courtyard)
It's not rocket science. Just money. About that 10 billion over 10 years Iger said they would spend. But do it correctly. Have plans done, clear land, be a secret, close to half way done-then announce, pay your construction team to get it done in 2 1/2 years not 4. This is how they should combat Epic Universe
I don't like it one bit as they are shoe horning things in but they have already started so they might as well finish with a cohesive idea...
Build Zootopia (behind Asia with the entrance between Africa and Asia and move the bird show keeping it removed from the rest, hell take a train to get there)
Moana (Goes to Adventureland expansion Pad with her rides and shops, entrance between Pirates and Jungle)
Shadowlands/Villain Land (give them the whole expansion pad to the north of the river, no Coco no Encanto)
Coco in Mexico Pavillion (Build a new show building behind Elsa's summer house and have the entrance be the jungle next to Mexico on the right outside the Pavillion. Preserving the inside, win win)
Build Costa Rica & Encanto Pavillion/Ride in Epcot
Wall-E in The Land Pavillion
Mary Poppins in United Kingdom
Indy Land at Hollywood Studios (Don't kill me, but Stunt show goes and replace with Indy Boat Ride (Shanghai Pirates Tech) Rollercoaster, and Adventurer's Club 2.0 & Shops/M&G
CarsLand (Replace Animation Courtyard)
It's not rocket science. Just money. About that 10 billion over 10 years Iger said they would spend. But do it correctly. Have plans done, clear land, be a secret, close to half way done-then announce, pay your construction team to get it done in 2 1/2 years not 4. This is how they should combat Epic Universe
James Alucobond
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I would personally keep WALL-E in my back pocket in case of forced IP in Living with the Land. You could really lightly theme it to a partnership between EPCOT, the Department of Agriculture, and the Buy n Large bots to retain almost everything that’s there with a few figures thrown in.
erasure fan1
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4 yrs? It took them like 6 to build a restaurant. 4 would be a huge improvement. Lol
DCLcruiser
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Just give us some new missions. The video can't be that hard to update.
UNCgolf
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The height requirement isn't the concern, though -- it's the overall intensity (and type of intensity, I suppose, since it's not really like riding a roller coaster).
I guess they could change Green to a Wall-E tie-in and leave Orange as is, though.
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Disstevefan1
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And is why they created the less intense Green team.
I really do like Mission Space. While its no Horizons, I like it as it is non IP and very EPCOTy.
And the creation of the Green team not only made it accessible to more people, but very rarely, in effect ADDED an attraction! Now Mission Space has TWO attractions, a mission to the Moon and mission to Mars.
While I do not agree with the folks who dislike Mission space, I understand as I don't like Moana.
I bet Moana cost more to build than Mission Space.
WaltsTreasureChest
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What’s better a dedicated franchise land or a land that has rides from different franchises
TheMaxRebo
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Yeah, agreed. And there is that big spot behind Kali before Rafiki's and if they insist on putting Zootopia there build it there and then take the train to that area like the train is a big part of the movie
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
That’s a great idea actually. Would be easier to hide the city looking area from the rest of the animal kingdom theming as well.
WaltsTreasureChest
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Yeah
waltography
Well-Known Member
Hello, coming from the DL forums so apologies if my question is dumb.
I know one of the big rumors for this weekend is Zootopia coming to AK (which I think is a huge mistake and antithetical to the thesis of the park), and people are suspecting it'll likely take over Dinoland, but can someone explain to me what about Dinoland has people wanting to keep it around? Is it DINOSAUR? Is it Dinorama? I can't crack it from my POV. I visited Animal Kingdom last month for the first time and was underwhelmed with that entire section of the park so I'm not sure if I'm missing something.
I know one of the big rumors for this weekend is Zootopia coming to AK (which I think is a huge mistake and antithetical to the thesis of the park), and people are suspecting it'll likely take over Dinoland, but can someone explain to me what about Dinoland has people wanting to keep it around? Is it DINOSAUR? Is it Dinorama? I can't crack it from my POV. I visited Animal Kingdom last month for the first time and was underwhelmed with that entire section of the park so I'm not sure if I'm missing something.
Starship824
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Dinosaur the ride and the idea of dinosaurs at DAK, I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that Chester and Hesters is awful.
TheMaxRebo
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I think it is more that dinosaurs as a concept/category fits well and so having a Dinoland makes more sense than Zootopia,, but I think most people agree the current Dinoland needs work (outside of the play arre)
mattpeto
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I believe what we learned today makes any Zootopia plans a significant stretch. A retrofit from the Dinosaur ride system is a massive undertaking. This isn’t replacing the animatronics/lighting effects like TBA or Frozen Ever After, it’s the whole ride system. It would be massively expensive and would hurt capacity during the closure.
Do we honestly think Disney would start with something from the ground up when they have a prototype opening featuring Zootopia soon?
Disney’s MO has been design a ride once and use it multiple parks. It saves the discovery, architecture, intellectual, engineering expenses and probably more I can think of.
Look how WDW grabbed up Tron and Remy’s. And how they put MMRR, MFSR and Rise on both coasts. Heck they are putting the Malestrom-Frozen Ever After redo at one of the international parks.
Besides, Shanghai DL likely has an exclusive agreement on their new attraction. We don’t even know if the ride will be a hit, yet.
Long-term, I would watch the success of the Fantasy Springs attractions, any of them would be good candidates to come to WDW or DL at some point.
If we get the “goods” - aka an attraction announcement” this week, it won’t be Zootopia at AK or I’ll be very wrong.
I do believe we will get the goods…I hope.
Do we honestly think Disney would start with something from the ground up when they have a prototype opening featuring Zootopia soon?
Disney’s MO has been design a ride once and use it multiple parks. It saves the discovery, architecture, intellectual, engineering expenses and probably more I can think of.
Look how WDW grabbed up Tron and Remy’s. And how they put MMRR, MFSR and Rise on both coasts. Heck they are putting the Malestrom-Frozen Ever After redo at one of the international parks.
Besides, Shanghai DL likely has an exclusive agreement on their new attraction. We don’t even know if the ride will be a hit, yet.
Long-term, I would watch the success of the Fantasy Springs attractions, any of them would be good candidates to come to WDW or DL at some point.
If we get the “goods” - aka an attraction announcement” this week, it won’t be Zootopia at AK or I’ll be very wrong.
I do believe we will get the goods…I hope.
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