Dark Ride Debacle

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Or a Roger Rabbit Cartoon Spin...

There's a lot of land starting in Fantasyland and fanning out toward Tomorrowland if you consider that there aren't any essential attractions in Mickey's Boring Small-Town Farmland.
I double dare not to clone!!!! Esp a decade old attraction. And one with legal issues....
 

RonAnnArbor

Well-Known Member
Hmm...this probably isn't the place to speculate about what they would do with the 20K land (it isn't large as someone stated - people "remember" it as being large, but it isn't large at all - enough for one building probably...I would probably bet that they wouldn't create anything new there, but bring over some of the things they have already developed at DRP such as the cars ride, or Crush's coaster. I don't see them spending a lot of money to develop much new in this financial climate. Actually, there probably isn't enough room for Crush's coaster...
 

DisneyAnole

New Member
I double dare not to clone!!!! Esp a decade old attraction. And one with legal issues....

Obviously they wouldn't clone it because of legal issues. :rolleyes:


But you're right. It's too good for MK, anyway. Florida crowds wouldn't appreciate the tea-cups/dark-ride hybrid. Better leave it at the real Disney park and clone the Little Mermaid ride that's going in to DCA.

And the RR ride at DL is MUCH more than 10 years old.
 

DisneyAnole

New Member
Hmm...this probably isn't the place to speculate about what they would do with the 20K land (it isn't large as someone stated - people "remember" it as being large, but it isn't large at all - enough for one building probably...I would probably bet that they wouldn't create anything new there, but bring over some of the things they have already developed at DRP such as the cars ride, or Crush's coaster. I don't see them spending a lot of money to develop much new in this financial climate. Actually, there probably isn't enough room for Crush's coaster...

There's at least enough land for 1 E-ticket and 1 smaller attraction. Or room for about 5 screen-based attractions. ;)

If they looked to expand beyond the berm there's even more room.
 

sillykid

Member
What are the legal issues? I miss Roger in the studios. I hate anything related or reminding me of the those Honey Shrinking movies.
 

phenom1307

New Member
Comparing a live show to a ride is kind of apples/oranges kind of thing.

The size of 20k would only support about 2 rides of the size of Peter Pan or Snow White. There is less room than you think there.

I would love a big ride there say a longer better version of Pinocchio's Daring Journey...


you know there was a study done a while back and they found apples and oranges to be quite similar....
 

Damien666

New Member
What are the legal issues? I miss Roger in the studios.

The only issue I saw was the incident where a family was loaded in Car-Toon Spin wrong and a 4 year old kid fell out of the taxi and was pinned underneath it.

So the attraction added doors to the taxis.
 

darthjohnny

Active Member
You mean the sequel that's been discussed since 1992? Has there been some progress on it that I haven't heard about?

Yes.

MTV Movies revealed that producer Frank Marshal is ready to work on it again:

‘Roger Rabbit’ Sequel Still In The Offing? Stay Tooned, Says Producer


9 Comments | Published by Shawn Adler on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 4:24 pm.
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Ask Judge Doom: no toon can resist the old “Shave-and-a-Haircut” gag. But when plans went around Hollywood for a sequel to the 1988 classic “Who Framed Roger Rabbit,” a lot of powerful people suddenly realized it would take more than the promise of “Two-bits” for Roger to come busting through the door.
Now, nearly twenty years after “Roger Rabbit” first exploded onto the big screen, producer Frank Marshall told MTV News that he’s still “open” to the possibility of another film, derailed in the mid-90s because of what would have then been cost-prohibitive special effects.
But don’t hate Roger for the fact that the movie didn’t get made in the first place. He’s not expensive…he’s just drawn that way.
“It came pretty close. We shot a test. We had a script. But unfortunately, we didn’t have computer generated animation quite yet - it was just too expensive,” Marshall explained of the untitled sequel project, “Roger Rabbit 2.” “If you think about it, in the original movie there’s really only 48 minutes of animation and in the new movie - or in that movie - he was in everything. So it went from 48 minutes of animation to over 100 minutes of animation.
“I remember we shot the test to try and see how much we could do with digital props - We weren’t even into digital characters yet,” Marshall continued. “The idea was to see what we could do with digital props as opposed to what we did in the original movie where everything was puppeted - all the props were puppeted by strings and wires and poles.”
For the first time ever, Marshall also revealed details of the plot of “Roger Rabbit 2,” and if you thought Toontown was a trip, you should have seen where they were sending Roger next.
“New York!” Marshall enthused of the setting for the second film. “Roger was a song and dance man in New York City [when he] discovered that he wanted to be in the movies and so he came across the country. I remember there being a big dance number. He came out with a troupe of sort of Busby Berkeley dancers on a train and they got to Hollywood and he and Baby Herman moved in together. And that’s when he met Eddie Valiant.”
Sounds too good to pass up, especially now that studios like Pixar exist (and under Disney no less), to help with Computer Animation. So ok, Mr. Marshall, what if we say “P-p-p-p-p-please!”
“Definitely,” Marshall playfully responded. “I’ll put in a call to [Pixar chief John] Lasseter after I hang up.”
Why do we love Roger? Because he makes us laugh. Let’s get this project moving. Show your support for a “Roger Rabbit” sequel below.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/12/1...till-in-the-offing-stay-tooned-says-producer/
 

hauntdmansion79

Active Member
Dark Rides

I absolutely wish Disney would create an "old school" dark ride at WDW. As posted before, people's definition of "dark ride" may differ. I personally don't consider mission:space a "dark ride", or rockin' rollercoaster a "dark ride". A classic "dark ride" is a ride with audio animatronics in which you ride through the attraction in some sort of vehicle. Smaller dark rides would be Peter Pan, Snow White, and the Maelstrom. Glorified dark rides would be Pirates, Haunted Mansion and Spaceship Earth.

On that note, I think Monsters, Inc. in California is a truly classic dark ride. Even though it's not that popular, it goes back to the days of a moving cart and audio animatronics....which is AWESOME! I wish we could get that ride in WDW.

And just to touch on the space available in the 20K lot....there is CRAZY space there! Check it out on Google Earth or any other aerial shot....you could fit both It's a Small World and the Haunted Mansion on that lot...and those are 2 huge buildings! So let's hope we get a massive E-ticket attraction, or 2 or 3 classic dark rides that would fit perfectly in Fantasyland (Little Mermaid, Alice in Wonderland, Pinnochio, etc.).
 

echoscot

New Member
I absolutely wish Disney would create an "old school" dark ride at WDW. As posted before, people's definition of "dark ride" may differ. I personally don't consider mission:space a "dark ride", or rockin' rollercoaster a "dark ride". A classic "dark ride" is a ride with audio animatronics in which you ride through the attraction in some sort of vehicle. Smaller dark rides would be Peter Pan, Snow White, and the Maelstrom. Glorified dark rides would be Pirates, Haunted Mansion and Spaceship Earth.

On that note, I think Monsters, Inc. in California is a truly classic dark ride. Even though it's not that popular, it goes back to the days of a moving cart and audio animatronics....which is AWESOME! I wish we could get that ride in WDW.

And just to touch on the space available in the 20K lot....there is CRAZY space there! Check it out on Google Earth or any other aerial shot....you could fit both It's a Small World and the Haunted Mansion on that lot...and those are 2 huge buildings! So let's hope we get a massive E-ticket attraction, or 2 or 3 classic dark rides that would fit perfectly in Fantasyland (Little Mermaid, Alice in Wonderland, Pinnochio, etc.).

Don't need Google earth, and the picture from that angle is deceptive. Worked at MK characters and had friends at 20k and have walked all around the show building that used to exist there and the lagoon. It is a large plot but would definitely NOT hold two major E-ticket rides. It is about the size of 1 major E-ticket show building, with a decent foreground. To do something bigger they would have to redo the access road to the Tunnel Entrance and the Train route behind that.

I have also been in the show building for HM and IASW they are immense. They would both not fit in that spot.
 

mickey&me

Active Member
I think a Meet the Robinsons dark ride would be much better in Tomorrowland than, say, Stitch's Great Escape or Monster's Inc. Laugh Floor.
 

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