Craziest thing happened during Guardians pre-show on Saturday..

SplashJacket

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People don't appreciate show. Anticipation followed by pay-off. Immersion, tension, being sucked into a world for a little while.

What are they like between the sheets? Or the dinner table? They snatch their steak from the plate while the waiter is still holding it and stuff it whole into their mouth?
May be, but good design should account for that. The Rise transport has no issue with guests crowding the door. Haunted mansion has no issue. Neither is a vastly different concept.

Good design accounts for people behaving stupid. It’s why if you design a toy, and it injures people when they misuse it, if it’s a reasonable misuse, it’s the company’s fault.

It’s bad design.
 

RoadiJeff

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When my wife and I rode GotG back in October we didn't notice any stampede or anything abnormal as far as crowds. However, others in this thread say it has been going on for a while.

I guess I was more focused on whether or not I would get motion sickness from the ride, which I slightly did. GotG was a one and done for me.
 

Lilofan

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When my wife and I rode GotG back in October we didn't notice any stampede or anything abnormal as far as crowds. However, others in this thread say it has been going on for a while.

I guess I was more focused on whether or not I would get motion sickness from the ride, which I slightly did. GotG was a one and done for me.
Only stampede I recall in my experience is the Black Friday sale at Best Buy back in the day. You could have lost an arm in that melee.
 

Lirael

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These are the same people that as soon as the plane hits the tarmac they stand up and grab their bag and then......stand there for 15 minutes because they are in row 21 and have to wait for the first 20 rows to deplane.
That depends on the situation. Some people have connecting flights they need to hurry to. Other people, like me, have issues that mean sitting down in cramped spaces too long may result in pain, so it's better to wait for my row to be called while standing up, even if that takes 15minutes or so
 

Club Cooloholic

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That depends on the situation. Some people have connecting flights they need to hurry to. Other people, like me, have issues that mean sitting down in cramped spaces too long may result in pain, so it's better to wait for my row to be called while standing up, even if that takes 15minutes or so
I am 6ft 3 so I understand cramped but somehow survive the extra 15 minutes . If you have a connection you still aren't getting off any quicker if you're at the back of the plane, and many times I am nearly getting clocked in the head by a backpack or the bag above me from the guy who is going to stand next to me
 

Ayla

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The Guardians preshow is poorly designed... You don't see this issue with similar pre-shows.

They were testing keeping the middle door roped off to help with the crowd surge and bottle neck a couple months ago.
I've never ridden Guardians, but if it is similar to the Test Track and Haunted Mansion queue where everyone is belched out into one place only to create chaos, they are all poorly designed.
 

Andrew25

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I've never ridden Guardians, but if it is similar to the Test Track and Haunted Mansion queue where everyone is belched out into one place only to create chaos, they are all poorly designed.

Quite the opposite... it's intentionally designed to funnel guests back into a proper queue. I hate that experience, but it is impressive to see guests funnel back into a proper queue in less than a minute from a very large room.

I just stick to the back and admire the chaos from afar. Not sure how many guests fit in that preshow (maybe ~150?), but considering the capacity of this attraction, you are only waiting an additional 5-10 minutes at most.
 

SplashJacket

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I've never ridden Guardians, but if it is similar to the Test Track and Haunted Mansion queue where everyone is belched out into one place only to create chaos, they are all poorly designed.
I mean, I agree, overall the bottlenecking is not ideal and uncomfortable, but HM and Test Track and similar rides (like MMRR) were created to bottleneck, but their actual pre-shows function as intended. There's a small amount of clumping in HM among people who know, but overwhelmingly, the pre-show functions as intended.

The Guardians pre-show doesn't really function as intended. When the clump of people moves to the door, people who weren't planning on walking to the door suddenly walk to the door, ignoring the pre-show, and then once they stop moving, they ignore the actual pre-show because they're waiting for the door to open. Then you have to deal with a bottleneck regardless.
 

Lirael

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I am 6ft 3 so I understand cramped but somehow survive the extra 15 minutes . If you have a connection you still aren't getting off any quicker if you're at the back of the plane, and many times I am nearly getting clocked in the head by a backpack or the bag above me from the guy who is going to stand next to me
It's not about just being cramped. I have knee problems that mean sitting down for long periods can result in so much pain I end up limping. So to me standing up those 15min do make a world of difference. And I don't huff or grumble or demand people to hurry up while I'm standing up waiting for my turn to leave.

And I feel like, regardless of the reason, if the people immediately standing up aren't bothering others, there's no reason to judge them. It's different from those who, yes, are in row 20, stand up immediately and start moaning about how long they've been standing up
 

Incomudro

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I can't stand guests who ruin experiences for others who may be riding a ride for the first time.
It's so rude, and so inconsiderate.
And, yes - I'm sorry but the cast member should say something.
Why is there a cast member there at all if it's a free for all?
 

FettFan

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So, we've done Cosmic Rewind plenty of times and we love the pre-show with the teleporter effect, but this is the first time this happened to us.

As we were in the final preshow, of course the idiots in the crowd rushed the doors on the right, but this time, even before the big Eternal showed up, the crowd pushed the doors open! Then everyone literally left the preshow room shortly after it started, it was just me and my son standing there all by ourselves.

The CMs did nothing! One CM was on her phone texting someone (gonna assume it was work related or communicating something?) I walked over to the CM and was like "what's up with the doors?" and she just said "oh they pushed them open". Like didn't care at all, there was no nice reminder to not push on the doors, nothing.

It was crazy cause people were clearly pushing hard on the doors because the motors weren't actuated yet, like, it was clear it wasn't time for them to be open. I can't believe how stupid people are.


So...really....

Thanos was right.

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FettFan

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After getting off the ride at Norway we made a bee line for the exit walking through the theatre to the exit.

Aye. And that was the problem. Originally the theater was meant to hold guests as a measure of crowd control, just as how The Deluge at the Living Seas was before the SeaCab ride.

You were meant to board the boat in the fishing village.
 

Phineas85

Member
I hate that funnel choke point on this ride as well as Haunted Mansion and Runaway Railway - gives me so much anxiety. But not enough to force open doors in order to get ahead of everyone! :rolleyes:
Haunted Mansion's main issue comes from the two stretch room sequences only being apart for the length of time you are in the stretch room (literally as one opens to let you out, the other is opening to let the next group in). This causes the exiting group to catch up with the previous before all have gotten onto the ride (and if there is a stop for a disabled guest it's even worse). They should redo the timing so that the load area is virtually clear by the time the next group comes out. A minutes difference would make a lot of difference, and you'd probably still catch up with the last of the people who went in before you so wouldn't affect the queue time at all.
 

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