Rumor Country Bear Jamboree to be Replaced by Toy Story Show?

ToTBellHop

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And we know how that worked out for her. Didn't save anything!
 

celluloid

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And we know how that worked out for her. Didn't save anything!

It saved Marty from being stuck in 1955 and he and his siblings from never exisiting. She was the reason he had the flyer and knew that the clock tower was struck by lightning. The lady was a crucial peace of foreshadowing. Meis en scene. She got a coin from Marty, and he got knowledge. Much like CBJ and other artforms. It is not just what is put out, but what you get out of the art.
 

ToTBellHop

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It saved Marty from being stuck in 1955 and he and his siblings from never exisiting. She was the reason he had the flyer and knew that the clock tower was struck by lightning. The lady was a crucial peace of foreshadowing. Meis en scene. She got a coin from Marty, and he got knowledge. Much like CBJ and other artforms. It is not just what is put out, but what you get out of the art.
If CBJ is struck by lightning, I won’t be stuck in Frontierland but the bears will still disappear?
 

ToTBellHop

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Tower of Terror but each floor is a spooky version of a different lost attraction
That actually would be a VERY cool special event. Disney finally reveals that Dreamfinder is stuck in the Twilight Zone.

"Frontierland, 1975. Amid the dust and heehaws of a bustling young theme park at the height of the 70s, The Country Bear Jamboree was a star in its own right,, a beacon for the toothless Southerner. Now, something is about to happen that will change all that..."
 
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DAK1928

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That actually would be a VERY cool special event. Disney finally reveals that Dreamfinder is stuck in the Twilight Zone.

"Frontierland, 1975. The Country Bear Jamboree was a Magic Kingdom icon, a beacon for the toothless Southerner. Now, something is about to happen that will change all that..."
"You are not the first to pass this way... Nor shall you be the last..."
 

networkpro

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Yes
The Disneyblog post has "the site that shall not be mention in other than cackles of clickbait laughter" up in arms... They've got a new post up this morning "defending" their existance.
 

disneyC97

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I'll be heading to WDW in July for the first time in 3 years and will be sure to catch the Bears. I have not seen the trimmed version yet and was not happy to hear about that. It appears that the potential IP for the replacement is Toy Story (outside of Woody's Roundup I can't think of another Disney IP that is western in nature + popular). Really sad to hear this and hold out hope they cut funding for a changeover and leave the Bears alone. :(
 

Walt Disney1955

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To be honest I think one of the things that helped Walt to be so successful is that he was not "corporate" any more than he had to be. After the Oswald debacle, he was more or less always in charge. He had failures (and is quoted as saying everyone needs a good failure early in life, to teach them), but he also was able to go with his gut on a lot of things. There was risk involved. But he did not need a focus group or MBA to approve that what he did was not going to offend anyone. He was naturally good at what MBAs call "synergy" today, and he understood business overall. But, aside from working with Roy and normal business concerns (taxes, regulations, partnerships, etc.), he was able to follow his gut and be creative. This doesn't meant that they did not do studies. But it means that the type of studies that they did were to make the attractions authentic, not ones that were centered on making it the least offensive.

That was the genesis of what made (and makes) Disneyland and WDW so special. Mickey and the gang (especially Donald) were never the Care Bears -- anesthetized to a corporate goo. While they were never quite as brassy, maybe, as their Warner Brothers counterparts (Buggs Bunny and friends), they were also not afraid to have fun with characterizations that reflected real human characteristics, including some adult characteristics that could be funny.

Anyway, I am glad that Walt and his imagineers got to make some of these attractions just from their guts. I think it made the difference.

It is what we have come to know as Disneyland/Disney World, right? So much innovation and creativity. Honestly, singing bears? Name one other person but Walt Disney who even thinks of this. Tiki Birds too. To me it is genius and still very much a part of the parks. You go back to WDW because of your favorite attractions. Or else it gets too corporate if the rides are all from modern movies.

Here is a sample just in Magic Kingdom alone that was from Walt and not any of the movies (even the old ones): Carousel of Progress, Country Bears, Pirates, Mansion, Tiki Birds, Jungle Cruise, Small World, Hall of Presidents (Mr. Lincoln inspired it from Disneyland), Tom Sawyer Island, Walt Disney Railroad, Liberty Belle Riverboat....................what am I missing here? For a guy who has been dead for 53 years his influence is still in the parks and that doesn't even count the attractions based on his old movies (Peter Pan, Mine Train, Splash Mountain, Swiss Family Treehouse, Mad Tea Party).

The further you get away from the influences of Walt the worse the park will get only because he was brilliant at what he did and no one has the imagination he had since, they don't even try anymore. CBJ is part of that mystique and you still feel it when you see the show. A throwback, and that's the point of it all.

Honestly, this better just be a rumor and they are best to leave the classics alone.
 

prberk

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It is what we have come to know as Disneyland/Disney World, right? So much innovation and creativity. Honestly, singing bears? Name one other person but Walt Disney who even thinks of this. Tiki Birds too. To me it is genius and still very much a part of the parks. You go back to WDW because of your favorite attractions. Or else it gets too corporate if the rides are all from modern movies.

Here is a sample just in Magic Kingdom alone that was from Walt and not any of the movies (even the old ones): Carousel of Progress, Country Bears, Pirates, Mansion, Tiki Birds, Jungle Cruise, Small World, Hall of Presidents (Mr. Lincoln inspired it from Disneyland), Tom Sawyer Island, Walt Disney Railroad, Liberty Belle Riverboat....................what am I missing here? For a guy who has been dead for 53 years his influence is still in the parks and that doesn't even count the attractions based on his old movies (Peter Pan, Mine Train, Splash Mountain, Swiss Family Treehouse, Mad Tea Party).

The further you get away from the influences of Walt the worse the park will get only because he was brilliant at what he did and no one has the imagination he had since, they don't even try anymore. CBJ is part of that mystique and you still feel it when you see the show. A throwback, and that's the point of it all.

Honestly, this better just be a rumor and they are best to leave the classics alone.

The only thing I would add to your thoughts is that sometimes they have tried and succeeded (to various degrees) in emulating the kind of creativity and timelessness that Walt usually sought in attractions -- and that is when they have been most successful. Not "copying Walt" but emulating his intent to bring people into another world with design and experience.

Examples are the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror and Expedition Everest (and indeed almost all of Animal Kingdom) and the Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular and Countdown to Extinction (Dinosaur) and Spaceship Earth, as well as the Wilderness Lodge and the Animal Kingdom Lodge. They are all immersive, and even when they are based on a movie property, they are (1) based on a classic that crosses generations or (2) enough of a story in themselves that you don't have to know the movie story to enjoy the attraction.

I don't know if they still have the required "Traditions" training at Disney resorts, but they should throughout the company. The imagineers and other decision makers will do best when they understand the foundations of what made the company not only great but unique. To be clear, I am not saying not to grow and change, but simply to understand the foundation and the plans better before you go tearing down walls -- some of which might be load-bearing in ways that are no so apparent on the surface.
 
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