Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[SammyMF]

My state views cases as active until either specifically told the person has recovered (or died) or 30 days have passed since diagnosis.

Ok that is interesting. Thanks. Maybe its state by state.

Checked out the official information from Fla and it doesnt even mention it. The official statement was that it is something they dont consider nor report because there is no universally accepted definition of 'recovered' so no way to arrive at a real number. It is a valid point. So the active case number, or 'cumulative', only goes up. Other states seem operate under the same principle. However, a 30-day removal seems reasonable.

The 'best-guess' numbers, since there are no official state numbers, seem to suggest there are 900k-1m that are currently infected as of this date out of the running total of 3.2 million. It is not a good number by a long shot. But it is an important number to know among many others when forming an opinion on how things are. That said, knowing how most people would interpret the running total to be 'active' cases... short attention spans or only reading the headlines... their idea of 'day to day' is not entirely correct.

There is todays headline that says two men in Japan died after receiving the tainted Moderna shots. However in the details, the various medical people say there is nothing to show that the shots contributed to their deaths. So the headline is misleading to say the least but that is what most people will take way from it since they seldom delve into the details.

 

[ArmoredRodent]

For some reason, the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine is now named Comirnaty. I guess they wanted something less pronounceable.

The meaning behind the name 'Comirnaty' Comirnaty is an agglomeration of the words “Covid-19 immunity” and “mRNA,” the latter indicating the technology that makes the vaccine work. As a whole, the word is intended to evoke “community,” a Brand Institute executive said

I saw it as a weak attempt to confuse people about their chief competitor for the vaccine: Moderna.

 

[correcaminos]

How often have we seen the brand name of their covid vaccine used vs news and people calling it “the Pfizer vaccine”.

i know that I have heard it called the Pfizer vaccine alot. Perhaps different outside the USA.

I'm saying people misspell Pfizer a lot... and often. Was making a joke. That's all. I'm in the US myself

I do give BioNTech the recognition they deserve though and typically use Pfizer-BioNTech when writing out. To the point my suggestions all have that. But that's me.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Ok that is interesting. Thanks. Maybe its state by state.

Checked out the official information from Fla and it doesnt even mention it. The official statement was that it is something they dont consider nor report because there is no universally accepted definition of 'recovered' so no way to arrive at a real number. It is a valid point. So the active case number, or 'cumulative', only goes up. Other states seem operate under the same principle. However, a 30-day removal seems reasonable.

The 'best-guess' numbers, since there are no official state numbers, seem to suggest there are 900k-1m that are currently infected as of this date out of the running total of 3.2 million. It is not a good number by a long shot. But it is an important number to know among many others when forming an opinion on how things are. That said, knowing how most people would interpret the running total to be 'active' cases... short attention spans or only reading the headlines... their idea of 'day to day' is not entirely correct.

There is todays headline that says two men in Japan died after receiving the tainted Moderna shots. However in the details, the various medical people say there is nothing to show that the shots contributed to their deaths. So the headline is misleading to say the least but that is what most people will take way from it since they seldom delve into the details.

In my state, non-hospitalized cases are considered resolved 10 days after symptoms began, if they have remained without a fever for at least 24 hours without the use of a fever-lowering medication (tylenol. ibuprofen, aspirin, etc.). There is no official registry for non-hospitalized recovery, and these are not recorded. The state's dashboard, however, lists the number of new cases within the past 14 days, both for the state as a whole and by county, so this can give you a rough estimate of the prevalence of active cases at any moment in time. Obviously, if you wanted to know an approximation of how many people recovered throughout the entire pandemic, you would subtract the reported cases of the last 14 days and the deaths from the overall total.

FYI, I'm on phone call for our hospital system today. The lab just paged me with three new positive cases. Of the three, only one was vaccinated (the oldest of the group), and she had a very minor illness from which she has already recovered. The other two are unvaccinated for... reasons... and are quite sick and rightly panicking. This seems to mirror the national pattern.

 

[drizgirl]

Given all the phizer and pizers and such I see, I am not sure I agree. Nevermind BioNTech

Saying that Pfizer is easier to say and spell is damning it with faint praise.

Someone should be fired for the name. Nobody will be able to spell it and nobody will say it correctly. It will just confuse a lot of people.

 

[LittleBuford]

Saying that Pfizer is easier to say and spell is damning it with faint praise.

Someone should be fired for the name. Nobody will be able to spell it and nobody will say it correctly. It will just confuse a lot of people.

That's a little extreme, don't you think? I very much doubt it'll give rise to any confusion. People will continue to refer to it as the Pfizer vaccine, and it'll remain an important tool in our fight against COVID. A bad choice of name does nothing to change that.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The meaning behind the name 'Comirnaty' Comirnaty is an agglomeration of the words “Covid-19 immunity” and “mRNA,” the latter indicating the technology that makes the vaccine work.

That's the Star Wars formula for naming droids.


Should've been called COPFID.

 

[Lilofan]

That's a little extreme, don't you think? I very much doubt it'll give rise to any confusion. People will continue to refer to it as the Pfizer vaccine, and it'll remain an important tool in our fight against COVID. A bad choice of name does nothing to change that.

I'm surprised no one is griping about Moderna's other name - Spikevax

 

[AEfx]

The meaning behind the name 'Comirnaty' Comirnaty is an agglomeration of the words “Covid-19 immunity” and “mRNA,” the latter indicating the technology that makes the vaccine work. As a whole, the word is intended to evoke “community,” a Brand Institute executive said

The Pfizer vaccine’s brand name, Comirnaty, is weird for a reason

Official FDA approval means Pfizer can now market its Covid-19 vaccine, Comirnaty. Which will lead to the inevitable question: Why is its brand name such an awkward mouthful?

qz.com

The fact that we live in a world where there are marketing teams who have the job to sit and make up names for medications is indicative of how ridiculous the world of pharmaceuticals is to begin with. The fact that it is happening right now, over a vaccine, in the middle of all this, is pretty disgusting.

Some day, we are going to look back at the current marketing of prescription medications the same way we look back at Fred Flintstone shilling cigarettes in between commercial breaks in the 60's.

 

[dreday3]

EVERYONE!!!

Take a Covid break and watch Cruella!!! It's a BLAST!!! The music is everything!!!

 

[matt9112]

I honestly did read everything you wrote. But I must call out this reference as something I enjoyed.

Nothing like the bombing of Dresden says were the good guys!

 

[matt9112]

This is as of August 19 in Florida. I'm not sure where to find it more recent.
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Clear as day that the 65+ is high risk. Probably a factor in our overall death rate vs "younger" states.

 

[DisneyCane]

I'm surprised no one is griping about Moderna's other name - Spikevax

It's not great either but at least it is easily pronounced and indicates that it is a vaccine. I know most drug names don't really indicate what they are for. Most of them are some sort of mash up of their chemical name with other things to make them sound pleasing.

They can both just be called "the vaccine" at this point. If you ask a random person, "have you had the vaccine?" they will instantly know that you are talking about the COVID vaccine.

 

[wutisgood]

A worry for me or anyone else should be what happens if you get seriously ill or have an accident in florida on vacation right now? The anti vaxxers are taking up most of the total hospital capacity across the entire state.

 

[BrianLo]

70% seems kind of arbitrary at this point. It certainly is better than where we stand now, and it will definately relieve some of the pressure on hospitals. But as we've seen, 70% isn't nearly enough to prevent the virus from ripping through the unvaccinated population.

Agreed, high 80's has been what's required of nearly every other vaccine to push into herd immunity.

70's is better seemingly that 60... (see what's happening across the border: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...vinces-rank-against-american-states-1.5051033)

90% is probably the real goal. Unlike the pessimists I do think herd immunity is highly achievable. It just won't be achieved with the ridiculously low vaccine rates like we've known from the very start. Nor will it occur while we congregate hundreds of unvaccinated individuals together (children in schools). Pediatric coverage is very key.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The Delta variant carries a higher risk of hospitalization, a study finds.

The analysis of more than 40,000 coronavirus infections in England adds to evidence suggesting that Delta may cause more severe illness than other variants do.

www.nytimes.com

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/28/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine/florida-has-a-worse-surge-than-states-with-similar-vaccination-rates-what-went-wrong

 

[Timmay]

A worry for me or anyone else should be what happens if you get seriously ill or have an accident in florida on vacation right now? The anti vaxxers are taking up most of the total hospital capacity across the entire state.

I believe this is false, unless I am misunderstanding the statistics.

The daily Florida numbers are being posted here regularly. Last count was Covid patients account for 27.95% of all Florida hospital patients.

 

[Lilofan]

I believe this is false, unless I am misunderstanding the statistics.

The daily Florida numbers are being posted here regularly. Last count was Covid patients account for 27.95% of all Florida hospital patients.

Whatever the percentage one should be aware of the ER wait times in hospitals in Tampa. According to Dr Paryani that works in a Tampa hospital as an oncologist, the current average wait time to get seen in the ER is 12 hours. According to Naples Daily News approx 68% of Florida hospitals are having critical staffing shortages.

 

[Heppenheimer]

A worry for me or anyone else should be what happens if you get seriously ill or have an accident in florida on vacation right now? The anti vaxxers are taking up most of the total hospital capacity across the entire state.

Just one of several reasons my family and I aren't planning any trips to Florida in the near future.

 

[TehPuddingMan]

Whatever the percentage one should be aware of the ER wait times in hospitals in Tampa. According to Dr Paryani that works in a Tampa hospital as an oncologist, the current average wait time to get seen in the ER is 12 hours. According to Naples Daily News approx 68% of Florida hospitals are having critical staffing shortages.

It depends on the reason for the ER visit. I had a friend go to Tampa General last week with chest pains. She was seen immediately. Another person I know went with mild Covid symptoms and she was told the wait would be 13 hours.