Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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CaptainAmerica

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No—most are hybrid. My kids have been in full-time but the public schools are hybrid here. Not much longer, though.
Interesting. They tried to push us that way but the parents raised hell. We did hybrid with cohorts for two weeks, plus one week of remote when cases popped after Thanksgiving, but it's been smooth sailing besides that.
 

ToTBellHop

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Interesting. They tried to push us that way but the parents raised hell. We did hybrid with cohorts for two weeks, plus one week of remote when cases popped after Thanksgiving, but it's been smooth sailing besides that.
The parents are livid here, but my wife works in the high school—some kids are awful at wearing masks and the rooms aren’t big enough to keep the kids 6 feet apart if the class is full. But once the staff are vaccinated, everyone will surely be back—which the teachers want, honestly. Remote learning is awful for everyone involved.
 

CaptainAmerica

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The parents are livid here, but my wife works in the high school—some kids are awful at wearing masks and the rooms aren’t big enough to keep the kids 6 feet apart if the class is full. But once the staff are vaccinated, everyone will surely be back—which the teachers want, honestly. Remote learning is awful for everyone involved.
That's why I can't understand all the articles about teachers not wanting to go back in parts of the country. Our teachers were as eager to reopen as the parents and kids.
 

ToTBellHop

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That's why I can't understand all the articles about teachers not wanting to go back in parts of the country. Our teachers were as eager to reopen as the parents and kids.
Why go into teaching if you don’t want to teach?

The college I work at is mostly-remote, but I teach science labs. I decided we would meet in person, and we have since August. Some other schools are teaching biology fully-online. Not sure how that works! “Dissect the chicken wing and then slather it in BBQ sauce...”
 

Touchdown

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Coming from a family that has two teachers(who agree with me on this)

Teachers are essential workers, essential workers are workers who have to go to work and risk their lives during the pandemic for the good of society. You can’t claim to be an essential worker and then demand you get to work remotely until you get a vaccine.

They’ve both been working onsite since October.
 

correcaminos

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That's why I can't understand all the articles about teachers not wanting to go back in parts of the country. Our teachers were as eager to reopen as the parents and kids.
Ours are kind of mad because they were told full time after being fully vaccinated and they pushed up the timeline with no warning 2 weeks. Schools went from having spring break to adjust classrooms and now they have this weekend to do it all while getting their second shot. So now not fully protected to partial and having to rearrange their work from hybrid to all in. Teachers are getting harassed in parking lots too for being unhappy. We're being sued by a few parents too which brought this on. It's not black and white. If my friends strike, I'd support them.
 

ToTBellHop

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Coming from a family that has two teachers(who agree with me on this)

Teachers are essential workers, essential workers are workers who have to go to work and risk their lives during the pandemic for the good of society. You can’t claim to be an essential worker and then demand you get to work remotely until you get a vaccine.

They’ve both been working onsite since October.
I agree...I have coworkers who haven’t been on campus since last March talking about how they want to stay online in Fall 2021 because “some students won’t be vaccinated.”

Ridiculous.

With that said, as an essential worker who was promised last week that I’d be eligible for vaccine in March only to learn this week that most essential workers will instead NOT be prioritized here, I’m frustrated. Blue hearts and “thank you essential workers!” are great and all, but a shot, as promised, would be better. Instead, 45-year old teleworking tax consultants will jump in front of me.
 
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correcaminos

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I agree...I have coworkers who haven’t been on campus since last March talking about how they want to stay online in Fall 2021 because “some students won’t be vaccinated.”

Ridiculous.

With that said, as an essential worker who was promised last week that I’d be eligible for vaccine in March only to learn this week that most essential workers will instead NOT be prioritized here, I’m frustrated. Blue hearts and “thank you essential workers!” are great and all, but a shot, as promised, would be better.
That seems a bit far for virtual. One of my friends is a chem prof and wants to go back when possible.

Sorry about the vaccine though. I'm in total support of vaccinating essential workers. Though here only K-12 are labeled as such. It's stupid imo
 

Touchdown

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I agree...I have coworkers who haven’t been on campus since last March talking about how they want to stay online in Fall 2021 because “some students won’t be vaccinated.”

Ridiculous.

With that said, as an essential worker who was promised last week that I’d be eligible for vaccine in March only to learn this week that most essential workers will instead NOT be prioritized here, I’m frustrated. Blue hearts and “thank you essential workers!” are great and all, but a shot, as promised, would be better. Instead, 45-year old teleworking tax consultants will jump in front of me.
I’m sorry, Wisconsin starts vaccinating essential workers Monday, my sister and brother-in-law are in Illinois, he gets his second shot next Friday, my sister got her first yesterday.
 

ToTBellHop

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That seems a bit far for virtual. One of my friends is a chem prof and wants to go back when possible.

Sorry about the vaccine though. I'm in total support of vaccinating essential workers. Though here only K-12 are labeled as such. It's stupid imo
They originally included higher ed if you work on campus. Then teleworking people complained and the union tried to fight it (along with many other industries), which seems to have angered the Governor so much that he said, “we are doing it by age and that’s final!” Ugh. Not that I don’t appreciate hairstylists.

I get to wait til 4/12...
 

correcaminos

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They originally included higher ed if you work on campus. Then teleworking people complained and the union tried to fight it (along with many other industries), which seems to have angered the Governor so much that he said, “we are doing it by age and that’s final!” Ugh. Not that I don’t appreciate hairstylists.

I get to wait til 4/12...
I don't think they ever prioritized college here. No preschool either. Just K-12. It's rather disappointing to me. We don't even have a date here for my friends who teach not K-12 yet (unless they are 65+ or have a major preexisting condition like the rest). We're doing a mix of age, priority for work, and preexisting conditions. Though some areas are further behind than others. I hope dates do move up with supplies. I ought to check to see if my gov announced anything today. So far we have no suggested time line or groups to go next officially.
 

DCBaker

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"On Friday, Publix will begin scheduling COVID‑19 vaccination appointments at all 730 of its in-store Florida pharmacies. Appointment scheduling starts at 7 a.m.

“We’re pleased to bring appointment opportunities to each of our in-store Florida pharmacies,” Publix CEO Todd Jones said in a press release. “We know how important this vaccine is to the people we serve, and we are grateful we can expand our ability to help our communities during this time of need.”

Only people ages 65 and older are eligible.

Vaccinations are made by appointment only, while supplies last, through the online reservation system at publix.com/covidvaccine."

 

GoofGoof

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I’m in CT too. Do you think all those JnJs are targeted to the teacher clinic sites? I do.
There are 3M+ teachers and we are getting close to 4M JnJ doses once approved. If I were on Biden’s task force I would recommend they do just that across the country. Send JnJ doses to each state to vaccinate all of the teachers. One shot and done. It would be a massively popular PR move that would also get a big group of essential workers done. Some states already started teachers and some teachers qualified as 65+ or health conditions too. They would probably only need about half the JnJ doses. The rest could go to other similar professions or even inner cities where they are desperately needed.
 

MrHappy

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There are 3M+ teachers and we are getting close to 4M JnJ doses once approved. If I were on Biden’s task force I would recommend they do just that across the country. Send JnJ doses to each state to vaccinate all of the teachers. One shot and done. It would be a massively popular PR move that would also get a big group of essential workers done. Some states already started teachers and some teachers qualified as 65+ or health conditions too. They would probably only need about half the JnJ doses. The rest could go to other similar professions or even inner cities where they are desperately needed.
Teachers in CT are eligible in Monday. Coincidence, that JNJ will probably start shipping then? Looks like some Govs might have some good inside knowledge.
 

Touchdown

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Teachers in CT are eligible in Monday. Coincidence, that JNJ will probably start shipping then? Looks like some Govs might have some good inside knowledge.
In our state our trigger is getting over 50% of the previous tier their first shot, which is why we are moving on.

J&J should really go to rural areas and/or transient communities unlikely to return for dose 2 first. Legal minefield aside, most of those J&J shot should go to the Dept of Corrections first.
 

GoofGoof

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In our state our trigger is getting over 50% of the previous tier their first shot, which is why we are moving on.

J&J should really go to rural areas and/or transient communities unlikely to return for dose 2 first. Legal minefield aside, most of those J&J shot should go to the Dept of Corrections first.
That would be another good use for them.

I think in some states (possibly FL) they are planning to focus them on essential workers who may not want to risk missing part or all of 2 days of work for getting the actual vaccines and/or adverse effects afterward. They can send JnJ doses right to the workplaces like a flu shot clinic since they don’t need to be frozen.
 

Disney Experience

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In our state our trigger is getting over 50% of the previous tier their first shot, which is why we are moving on.

J&J should really go to rural areas and/or transient communities unlikely to return for dose 2 first. Legal minefield aside, most of those J&J shot should go to the Dept of Corrections first.
Wouldn't the customers of the Department of Corrections be very, very non-transient (i.e. people in prison)? If so they are likely to be around for the second dose. If the customers are more likely just catch and release, then I can see it if you feel that their temporary custodial time is an unusual high risk compared to other situations people get into and therefore warrant priority. If one is speaking about staff, then they are not transient, but are at higher risks than the general public.

(Trying to figure the logic in your suggestion on the shots of JnJ going to Dept of Corrections vs your statement that they should go to rural and/or transient communities). Or is it the storage requirements the key benefit for the Dept of Corrections?
 

Touchdown

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Wouldn't the customers of the Department of Corrections be very, very non-transient (i.e. people in prison)? If so they are likely to be around for the second dose. If the customers are more likely just catch and release, then I can see it if you feel that their temporary custodial time is an unusual high risk compared to other situations people get into and therefore warrant priority. If one is speaking about staff, then they are not transient, but are at higher risks than the general public.

(Trying to figure the logic in your suggestion on the shots of JnJ going to Dept of Corrections vs your statement that they should go to rural and/or transient communities). Or is it the storage requirements the key benefit for the Dept of Corrections?
Not necessarily, there is 3-4 weeks in between shots a lot of people will get released. Also, doing mass vacinations in a prison is difficult and means a lot of prisoners will be out of their cell and routines. It’s likely to be much easier on the staff to only have to do this once.

Legal minefields abound though as some will accuse the state of giving prisoners the inferior shot.
 

drizgirl

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In our state our trigger is getting over 50% of the previous tier their first shot, which is why we are moving on.

J&J should really go to rural areas and/or transient communities unlikely to return for dose 2 first. Legal minefield aside, most of those J&J shot should go to the Dept of Corrections first.
Seems like the perfect choice for homeless populations.
 
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