Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[GoofGoof]

I googled and got this NYT story...

In Coronavirus Fight, China Gives Citizens a Color Code, With Red Flags (Published 2020)

A new system uses software to dictate quarantines — and appears to send personal data to police, in a troubling precedent for automated social control.

www.nytimes.com

... and it's... quite interesting in some ways, and quite disturbing in many others. But it does give a glimpse into the extent China has gone to achieve their apparent success in controlling the numbers.

Regarding masks, I don't know if we will ever be comfortable with them here, but if they become 'required', especially by private businesses, then that's obviously a strong motivator.

I imagine anything is possible. People are going to get fed up with this lock down pretty quickly and if it means wearing masks or other things that a few weeks ago seemed extreme we might all go along with it.

 

[Nubs70]

Yes. People would rather spend $8 on a bottle of vodka than $8 on a loaf of bread seriously though....when we have hurricanes my husband will buy a few cases of beer and they all have coupons for a free case of water with it. Things don't always make sense in the midst of chaos.

Several microdistilleries in my area are producing alcohol for hand sanitizers. The hand sanitizer is being produced and donated to local hospitals by a locally owned manufacturer.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I imagine anything is possible. People are going to get fed up with this lock down pretty quickly and if it means wearing masks or other things that a few weeks ago seemed extreme we might all go along with it.

The masks and “green means go” app comes after months of quarantine. Not instead of. Something to look forward to

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Several microdistilleries in my area are producing alcohol for hand sanitizers. The hand sanitizer is being produced and donated to local hospitals by a locally owned manufacturer.

One is in our town, too. They will give some to anyone who brings a bottle with them to be filled.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

People are going to get fed up with this lock down pretty quickly

Including those who unfortunately never bothered to try it.

 

[Nubs70]

Several microdistilleries in my area are producing alcohol for hand sanitizers. The hand sanitizer is being produced and donated to local hospitals by a locally owned manufacturer.

To add, the manufacturer donating product is related to that evil Secretary of Education

 

[MrHappy]

I imagine anything is possible. People are going to get fed up with this lock down pretty quickly and if it means wearing masks or other things that a few weeks ago seemed extreme we might all go along with it.

That's what happens when we are conditioned on 24 hours news cycles.

 

[larryz]

I wouldn't be surprised if they announce tomorrow with a Friday 5pm drop extending til 4/19.

If you poke around their hotel reservations right now, you'll find nothing available until April 1st.

 

[TrojanUSC]

So a liquor store is “life sustaining” but a specialty food store isn’t?

What's the definition of specialty food store? I'd imagine that means more retail-oriented places like Godiva, Hickory Farms, etc.

 

[SoFloMagic]

If you poke around their hotel reservations right now, you'll find nothing available until April 1st.

Maybe they'll take it a month at a time then. I still expect they'll try to bury it with the Friday 5pm press release so the stock market can't react

 

[Nubs70]

What's the definition of specialty food store? I'd imagine that means more retail-oriented places like Godiva, Hickory Farms, etc.

I think bat soup with ramen would qualify

 

[GoofGoof]

That's what happens when we are conditioned on 24 hours news cycles.

Beats this crap. Wearing a mask and other stupid measures seem pretty minor. I don’t necessarily think it actually helps, but we all take our shoes off and bring little bottles of liquids going through security after 9/11.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

What's the definition of specialty food store? I'd imagine that means more retail-oriented places like Godiva, Hickory Farms, etc.

I’m not sure but even if that is the case I think chocolate is just as “life sustaining” as liquor don’t you?

 

[thecouch]

What's the death rate in Italy

 

[21stamps]

What's the death rate in Italy

No one can answer that, the proper data doesn’t exist. No one can answer what the death rate is, anywhere, period.

 

[RobWDW1971]

What's the death rate in Italy

Feel free to follow along - the percentage, just like in Wuhan, will continue to drop as the numbers increase and the country gets a handle on it - today 8.3% of all cases have died.

Italy COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Italy Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[thomas998]

What's the death rate in Italy

No one knows the real rate in Italy because they haven't tested everyone... But it is likely going to be higher than China since Italy has one of the oldest populations. To put it into perspective 23% of Italians are over 65, in the US it is only 14% over 65.

If you want to use the known cases by known deaths its currently a 8% mortality rate, but that number is much higher than it actually is... remember it ignores the people with such mild symptoms that they don't even get test or even try to get tested.

 

[Giss Neric]

It's sad that there are more deaths in Italy than in China.

Ya'll can check the updates here on the numbers.

 

[thomas998]

You can only go by the reported numbers - that's why the WHO estimates the actual fatality rate by trying to include those not tested. You have to start somewhere to analyze the data, you just have to caveat its precision.

Unfortunately the media doesn't explain that so people get overly hysterical when they see the higher numbers. Once they get the tests going full speed in the US I'm quite certain that the mortality rate is going to drop significantly.

 

[21stamps]

You can only go by the reported numbers - that's why the WHO estimates the actual fatality rate by trying to include those not tested. You have to start somewhere to analyze the data, you just have to caveat its precision.

Even off the tested positive that we have, anywhere, we’ll have to wait until more are recovered to know the (semi) real death rate.