Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Disstevefan1

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It was my understanding due to privacy concerns your employer it not allowed to know if the employee has been tested and what the result of the test is. I could be wrong.
 

Heppenheimer

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Re: his comments on football, I would agree that he's stepping a bit outside his lane here. I think he can summarize the information as we know it and present risk scenarios. Others (policymakers, sports organizations, etc.) can then make decisions based on that risk information.

Of all sports, football is definitely not a zero-risk endeavor. The decision to play is based on an assumption of that risk and for those that choose to participate that the reward is worthwhile. In that way, Covid isn't different than a concussion or leg injury - it's a risk determination that needs to be made by the players/leagues.
COVID is different in that the risk for someone who chooses to play football is to themselves only (in normal, non-pandemic times). Not so with a highly contagious disease.
 

mickeymiss

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I expect the parks to actually be a little easier to manage. There’s CM’s outside of all attractions already that should be able to keep an eye out. Springs a little more difficult due to its layout and mall feel.

It's convenient that CM's "guard" each attraction. Indoor lines are the areas of most concern to me. Put that mask on or get out lol. I still feel bad that CM's might have to be in the enforcing position but I suppose it's not too different than telling them other rules (no drinks on ride, height limits, etc.)

My opinions don't match up all the time with everyone here but nothing irks me more than entering a park with a known rule and breaking it indifferently. I've said before that I might find myself needing to take it off urgently outside but I would do it in an isolated area and I wouldn't feign outrage if someone reminded me to put it back on. I'm worried about the heat but I'm really frustrated by people reading the sign and ripping off the mask defiantly as they enter DS.
 

kong1802

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It was my understanding due to privacy concerns your employer it not allowed to know if the employee has been tested and what the result of the test is. I could be wrong.

Not how it is here.

My employer states explicitly that if you are sent home with a fever (they check daily) you must get tested and then show test results (negative for COVID) to return to work.
 

danlb_2000

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As he should. Families will be going back to Disney with the expectation that the new rules will be enforced in order to keep them safe and I don’t think they will. Either they will start once people start contracting the virus at Disney or the media starts to shine a spotlight on their lack of enforcement. Or they will close again.

Only a matter of time before we start seeing the "Family Member Dies from Coronavirus After Returning From Trip to Disneyworld" headlines.
 

legwand77

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Only a matter of time before we start seeing the "Family Member Dies from Coronavirus After Returning From Trip to Disneyworld" headlines.
Already have, during the largest part of the outbreak in March we only saw one story like , with no precautions or mask or social distancing taking place, only one
 

legwand77

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So far I have only had time to skim the actual study so I don't want to give an opinion on it. I just wanted to comment once again on how journalism is dead. A quality journalist would have interviewed the author of the study to get insight and translation of the study for consumption by non-economists. Instead, this "journalist" just quoted and paraphrased a few things out of an 83 page study to get clicks and page views.

Basically, he plagiarized the work of the study's authors for personal gain. If I wrote that as an essay in college I would have gotten a D-.
The whole reason for that article was in the last sentence.
 

danlb_2000

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Already have, during the largest part of the outbreak in March we only saw one story like , with no precautions or mask or social distancing taking place, only one

The parks closed March 15th, hardly the "largest part of the outbreak":

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legwand77

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Yes.. he does. As I said in another thread.. sometimes it feels like my head is on a lazysusan. Look it up young ones.🙂

Not spin at all, just showing the facts behind all the panic/fear news. Everyone should have their own opinion but when contextless and incorrect information is being shared, it creates create unfounded fear. That is not a prudent way to tackle moving through a pandemic. And can do more harm than good. Are there things to be concerned about, yes but be concerned, posting sensational and in some cases wrong info does not help.
 

legwand77

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Largest part of the panic, maybe. Definitely not the outbreak.
Sure maybe not the largest (imho I think it was In regards to people getting infected) but the point stands, either way we don’t really know, we weren’t really testing anyone. It is to far to think for such a highly contagious disease that everyone is touting now, and with asymptomatic spread, there weren’t thousands of cases in the parks before it closed. Everyone was being ‘careless’, obviously with not fault of their own.
 
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Chip Chipperson

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was anyone wearing masks, Half capacity, 6 feet temp checks etc etc

On March 16, Florida was averaging ~38 new cases per day. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states/florida

The situation there then wasn't anywhere near the situation there now. There also wasn't contact tracing being conducted at that time, so while the guy from CA who got sick while in WDW and later died might have been the only case reported in the media that doesn't automatically mean it was the only case that occurred. It's statistically unlikely that he didn't pass the virus on to anyone else between the time he contracted it and the time he passed away. The fact is that we will never know how many people were infected at WDW before they closed, but the odds suggest that it was more than 1. Given that many family trips to WDW include grandparents (plus high-risk locals like seniors and those with medical conditions who like to visit the parks) and it is likely that more than 1 person died from COVID-19 after visiting WDW. Suggesting that March was the "largest part of the outbreak" is blatantly false - especially in Florida.
 

lazyboy97o

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This shows how pointless that graphic is with that completely incorrect takeaway.
What shows that? You're the one who made the ridiculous claim that the correlation between the spike and Father's Day is somehow relevant information.
Not spin at all, just showing the facts behind all the panic/fear news. Everyone should have their own opinion but when contextless and incorrect information is being shared, it creates create unfounded fear. That is not a prudent way to tackle moving through a pandemic. And can do more harm than good. Are there things to be concerned about, yes but be concerned, posting sensational and in some cases wrong info does not help.
Nobody was unaware of the context.
 

legwand77

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What shows that? You're the one who made the ridiculous claim that the correlation between the spike and Father's Day is somehow relevant information.

Nobody was unaware of the context.
do you know what that spike in the graphic posted shows? I am thinking not.
 
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