Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DisneyDebRob]

If anything comes of what Disney is doing to open up things it’s the arrows on the ground to keep people from straying. That looked pleasant! How about arrows on the ground in every park even after this has ended.

 

[Calmdownnow]

That’s why I said earlier that in theory if it’s ok to take the mask off in a restaurant because you are seated 6 feet apart it should be OK on a ride too

I think I have made this point in an earlier post, but if you wear no mask on a ride, breathing in and out hard because of the adrenaline rush, maybe even screaming as you hit a drop, you are putting lots of particulates into the air. The carriage behind you then passes through those particulates and they are breathing heavily too, taking in big gulps as they hit the drop and scream. It's about as extreme as you can get in droplet transference.

 

[Andrew C]

I think I have made this point in an earlier post, but if you wear no mask on a ride, breathing in and out hard because of the adrenaline rush, maybe even screaming as you hit a drop, you are putting lots of particulates into the air. The carriage behind you then passes through those particulates and they are breathing heavily too, taking in big gulps as they hit the drop and scream. It's about as extreme as you can get in droplet transference.

 

[GoofGoof]

I think I have made this point in an earlier post, but if you wear no mask on a ride, breathing in and out hard because of the adrenaline rush, maybe even screaming as you hit a drop, you are putting lots of particulates into the air. The carriage behind you then passes through those particulates and they are breathing heavily too, taking in big gulps as they hit the drop and scream. It's about as extreme as you can get in droplet transference.

On a coaster, yes. I’m thinking more like SSE or Little Mermaid type rides.

 

[BrianLo]

I mean the risk is still pretty dang close to zero. My greater concern for children right now is whether significant childhood illnesses are being missed in many due to the attention to Covid.

There is certainly some delay in presentation, but as a whole volumes have drastically decreased in locations with low COIVD. Mostly due to other viral illnesses dropping in tandem.

KD is certainly not a unicorn at baseline. Our institution admits somewhere around 50-100 a year. If we followed the 30-fold increase that Italy was seeing, that would actually be sizeable. Especially with multisystem inflammatory syndrome requiring more PICU supports seemingly.

I think children will be deemed disproportionately unaffected, because they are so inherently resilient. Morality will still be quite low in even the incredibly sick. I'm also not arguing it justifies complete closures, but I think the school conversation will become more of a hot topic when more of this information starts coming to light from the WHO study.

 

[Calmdownnow]

Just to clarify. Airborne has a different definition. Covid19 has yet to be classified as airborne.

I think there is quite a bit of evidence out there (remember the study of restaurant transmission from some months ago) that this is borne in the air transmission. So whether it is "classified" or not, they wouldn't be recommending face masks in countries around the globe if they didn't believe it was being passed through the air. Now how long it is airborne, ie. sits around for some time after you have breathed out waiting for someone else to stroll into your cloud may be up for debate, but there is probably a strong case for roller coaster operators doing their own tests to determine whether "airborne" in the context of "you ride ahead of me and scream your lungs out, and I follow you path instantly and inhale everything, including virus" might amount to airborne transmission.

 

[Calmdownnow]

On a coaster, yes. I’m thinking more like SSE or Little Mermaid type rides.

Indoor rides like Little Mermaid...You are still on a track passing through air others have breathed (but not screaming...) and as such are in a situation where you are in an enclosed space.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Indoor rides like Little Mermaid...You are still on a track passing through air others have breathed (but not screaming...) and as such are in a situation where you are in an enclosed space.

Which is why I think masks on rides will be required.

 

[Nubs70]

Of course, there is no proof to back up any of your statements.

Staying safe isn't just about hygiene and distance. It's about time, too. | CNN

The longer you stay in an environment that may contain the virus, the higher the risk of getting sick.

www.cnn.com

 

[Hawg G]

There have been plenty of people saying it's not a big deal. Just read through the thread...it's all there.

I still think we're going to see a bad second wave. Someone just posted pictures of people walking around in Disney Springs with no masks on the FIRST DAY OPEN.

What!!! Oh, wait, that is basically EXACTLY what I said would happen, and I bet Disney Springs opens to the public as planned, and...OMG.... there will be more people without masks.

 

[Rider]

Kennedy Space Center is reopening May 28.

Beginning Thursday, May, 28, 2020, Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex will welcome visitors again. During the initial reopening phase, Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex will begin new measures and procedures as part of a comprehensive Trusted Space program to keep guests and employees safe and healthy. These new measures and procedures include:

Opening with limited attendance and encouraging advance daily admission purchases
Requiring face coverings for employees and guests
Accommodating social distancing in queues, restaurants, and other facilities throughout the visitor complex
Requiring temperature screenings of all employees and guests prior to entry
Implementing increased frequency of sanitization and disinfection.
Changing operating hours to 10 a.m. until 4 p.m. to allow more time for cleaning and sanitizing.

For guests health and safety, these attractions and services will not be available:

Attractions: KSC Bus Tour including the Apollo/Saturn V Center, Universe Theatre, IMAX Theatre, Children’s Play Dome, Shuttle Launch Experience, Dine With An Astronaut and astronaut appearances, Special Interest Tours and Cosmic Quest
Programs: Overnight Adventures, Astronaut Training Experience and Mars Base 1
Shopping: Shuttle Express
Dining: Rocket Garden Café, Red Rock Grill, Milky Way Ice Cream Shop, Starbucks
Printed visitor complex maps – please consider download the free Kennedy Space Center Visitor Guide app which contains a map, FAQ’s, detailed descriptions and more.
Digipass and photo prints.

Tickets are also discounted and will include a free return pass:

To help ensure we are not exceeding capacity, all guests will be required to purchase a date and time specific ticket for entry. An email address is required for all ticket purchases and reservations. Daily admission will be $29.99 plus tax for adults and $24.99 plus tax for children during this initial reopening. Admission will include entry to Space Shuttle Atlantis®, Journey to Mars and more. In addition to admission to the visitor complex, you will receive a complimentary admission ticket valid for use beginning January 1, 2021 through December 25, 2021 which will be provided to you upon arrival to the visitor complex.

Health & Safety Procedures | Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex

www.kennedyspacecenter.com

 

[Imagineer45]

If it is a vaccine like the so called flu “ vaccine” I won’t get it. If you can’t guarantee it prevents the disease it seems pointless to me!

Wearing a seatbelt won't definitely prevent you from being injured or dying in a car crash, so I won't wear one...

There are many different strains of the flu, and you cannot get vaccinated for them all. People smarter than us decide which strains to use for the vaccines based on probability factors. Also, just because something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean its pointless. There are no guarantees in life.

 

[BaconPancakes]

Lots of people getting fired up over a mask. Either wear it or don’t go. Theme parks are not a right. Doesn’t matter anyhow, the people screaming the loudest will be the first to buy tickets...

 

[lilypgirl]

Wearing a seatbelt won't definitely prevent you from being injured or dying in a car crash, so I won't wear one...

There are many different strains of the flu, and you cannot get vaccinated for them all. People smarter than us decide which strains to use for the vaccines based on probability factors. Also, just because something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean its pointless. There are no guarantees in life.

I will continue to wear my seat belt and not get the flu/covid shot! I am far less likely to die of the flu/covid than a car wreck! You know that old saying my body my choice!

 

[BaconPancakes]

You know that old saying my body my choice!

But you’ll 100% be wearing a mask if you plan on visiting WDW anytime soon!

 

[MisterPenguin]

If it is a vaccine like the so called flu “ vaccine” I won’t get it. If you can’t guarantee it prevents the disease it seems pointless to me!

You've signed up for the wrong reality if you want guarantees of 100% effectiveness or you won't participate.

From your bathtub to your car to the food you bring home to eat, there's a chance any one of those things can kill you. So, stay home unfed and unwashed until you are no longer subject to the whims of this feckless reality.... if you wish to be consistent.

 

[Miss Bella]

Lots of people getting fired up over a mask. Either wear it or don’t go. Theme parks are not a right. Doesn’t matter anyhow, the people screaming the loudest will be the first to buy tickets...

Why do you always make assumptions about people? Just because someone is against masks or thinks it's a waste of time doesn't mean they won't comply with the rules.

 

[Miss Bella]

Wearing a seatbelt won't definitely prevent you from being injured or dying in a car crash, so I won't wear one...

There are many different strains of the flu, and you cannot get vaccinated for them all. People smarter than us decide which strains to use for the vaccines based on probability factors. Also, just because something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean its pointless. There are no guarantees in life.

There's are numerous reasons people choose not to get flu shots. I'm not sure this forum is the place to debate that.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

But you’ll 100% be wearing a mask if you plan on visiting WDW anytime soon!

Or you can be like this woman and try to lie your way in and make a scene. What a surprise, she’s a flat earther. I’m sure at some point Disney needs to be prepared for this when the parks open.
What a video.

SoCal Flat-Earther Becomes Internet's Enemy After Filming Mask-Wearing Argument at Grocery Store

A Southern California woman with a penchant for believing conspiracy theories ill-advisedly video-recorded an argument she had with a grocery store manager about her inalienable right to shop without a face mask.

sfist.com

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Why do you always make assumptions about people? Just because someone is against masks or thinks it's a waste of time doesn't mean they won't comply with the rules.

Agreed. I personally think it’s silly to enforce them outdoors but I’ll wear them if it’s required.

I think it’s silly to “randomly” select guests for metal detectors and yet I still go. (And am randomly selected 90% of the time lol).