We liked it, too. We also liked our rooms in the BC, but (shock) found the CSR rooms had more Disney themeing than the BC rooms.
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News Coronado Springs Expansion - Gran Destino Tower
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Sir_Cliff
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I agree that the theming in the hotels seems more susceptible to getting dated than in the parks, at least below the level of the Deluxes where you don't have these expansive food courts and motel-style buildings with relatively thin theming overlayed. What they've done at Coronado and now Caribbean Beach Resort seems far more in line with both current tastes and what you'd expect at resorts charging Disney-level prices. The previous look in both places was fine, but very much of its time.
aladdin2007
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best post of the day!!
Bocabear
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Thing is, none of the resorts are really "Themed to the high heavens"... AKL and POLY are prtobably the most themed, but the majority are lightly themed...it's when they remove even the lightest of thematics that I start to wonder what they are doing...
BigThunderMatt
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Coming from someone who worked specifically with that clientel I can tell you the majority of them came in, got their room, didn't care about the parks or amenities, went to their convention, got drunk, took cabs off property to eat elsewhere and left. Very few group attendees could have given a crap that it was at Disney and most of them had never been before. It was always fun when the group wasn't paying for the rooms and the attendee checking in would fight about the group rate being super expensive.
Nextinline
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In that case, my argument is that the conference shouldn't have been at CSR in the first place. Otherwise, my argument is that people generally enjoy being at WDW. People spend fortunes to be there for 1 week. These people also have regular jobs, own businesses, and go to conferences. There is no separation between people that vacation at WDW and people who are business clients or go to conventions. They are the same people and therefore should both enjoy the amenities.
peter11435
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The problem with this argument is that it’s simply not true.
The business clients are there because someone within their company or affiliated company was sold on the idea of having their event at WDW.
MrHorse
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I think you might be overestimating the percentage of the general public that cares for WDW. Obviously, I don't have real numbers, but I'd be deeply surprised if even half of your average adults were interested in WDW. I think if you polled the general public, the overall sentiment would be something along the lines of 'It's expensive and not really something you would do without children.' If you look at conference goers who don't have their children with them, the numbers are probably even lower. Most of these people are either all-business or they want to enjoy the type of activities that aren't practical with their families in tow.
I've gone to a number of conferences at WDW, including one I attend annually that alternates between WDW and Vegas. The general sentiment when they're held at WDW is indifference, followed by disappointment, bewilderment, or annoyance. The folks excited to be at Disney are a definite minority. Most of the things we enthusiasts take for granted are more than a little annoying to conference attendees. The drinks are expensive and weak, the food is expensive and bland, there are children everywhere, room service isn't 24/7, etc.
During the last conference I attended at WDW they rented out Hollywood studios for an evening as the big tentpole entertainment of the conference. The whole park, just for the 1500-2000 conference attendees. They put open bars all over the park. A handful of restaurants were open and the food was all complimentary. All the rides were open. About half of the conference bothered to show up. As many as not preferred to just go offsite and eat at a 'normal' restaurant, go to a bar, have some drinks, etc.
Nextinline
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There are 2 groups of people in this argument: 1) People who vacation at WDW 2) people who don't
1) People who vacation at WDW also are involved in some form of business when not vacationing. If someone is willing to spend their own money on a WDW vacation, 100% of those people would be interested in going on a business trip to WDW.
2) Not everyone conducting business at WDW will also vacation there, but the reasons for not vacationing at WDW (cost, other better options, vacation time, etc) may not apply to a business trip (company pays for it, you can still enjoy family vacations elsewhere that year, no vacation time spent).
Nextinline
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I agree with your assumption of the generic sentiment towards WDW. However, those ideas do not apply to a business conference. It isn't too expensive if the company is paying for it. And I'm not saying that adults on business trips will ride its a small world and take pictures with Mickey. I'm only saying that the amenities that make Disney resorts special can be enjoyed by people traveling on business (this isn't unique to Disney btw, other historic or "themed" type resorts would apply).
If your argument is that having business conferences at Disney resorts is a waste of company money, then I would flat out agree with you!
peter11435
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The point is that many/most of the guests there for business just don’t care. They don’t care about Disney or theming or anything else other than doing their business, having a drink, and having a place to sleep with decent WiFi.
Nextinline
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That is surprising and depressing to me. I guess I choose to live in a world where everyone loves WDW lol.
Magic Feather
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Can Coronado really support 3-4 Table Services? The only other resorts with near that many (Grand Floridian and Contemporary) both struggle to keep some of their TS’s Afloat (Wave @Contemporary and Everything other than V&A’s at Grand Flo has been faltering lately). Let alone that thy have a vastly superior location with higher traffic. Heck, even Maya Grill, as the sole TS, struggles a bit.
I wonder if there is a plan to shutter Maya once the others open, and even then...
I wonder if there is a plan to shutter Maya once the others open, and even then...
peter11435
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It would be a better world.
I would presume the conventioneers are a bit of captive audience. Unlike the conventioneers on the monorail loop or at Crescent Lake there is no quick and easy hop to another place to eat. Plus, one of the sit-down will be the coveted fireworks viewing roof-top place.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
We’ve never eaten at Maya, but Hubby is dying to eat at the new roof-top restaurant. He says it can be Ritz crackers and Gatorade for all he cares.
It will be nice to see the fireworks and then have a leisurely stroll to The Rix for our evening coffee and two minutes to the room. No screaming, overtired kids. No thousands of people headed to buses, monorails, or gondolas. No long walk to the parking lot.
Rix is just a coffee shop now?
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Sorry ... Café Rix - which serves pastries, gelato, coffee, hot chocolate, pop, and a handful of grab and go items.
(Rix became a sports bar and grill, and is now separate from Café Rix.)
How sad...