Contemporarily Craptastic

[Disone]

It’s pretty rare - I travel a crazy amount for both work and fun and it’s definitely not the norm.

Once at a Hilton security knocked on my door and said housekeeping reported my room cause the dnd sign was up. How odd - but he was super nice about it. That’s the only time outside of Disney I’ve seen it take place.

But it's not rare and thank you for using Hilton as your example. Clearly not just Disney.

Okay let me clarify here. If the housekeeper cleans your room.... that counts! Room check done! They're not going to come into a room a second time to do a visual inspection.

They only inspect rooms that the housekeeper is not cleaning today OR the room has DND sign. And most of the time you don't know it's happened because like housekeeping itself, most of the time it happens when you are not present in the room. But unlike housekeeping, nothing is touch or changed when a visual inspection is done.

 

[Ayla]

But it's not rare and thank you for using Hilton as your example. Clearly not just Disney.

Okay let me clarify here. If the housekeeper cleans your room.... that counts! Room check done! They're not going to come into a room a second time to do a visual inspection.

They only inspect rooms that the housekeeper is not cleaning today OR the room has DND sign. And most of the time you don't know it's happened because like housekeeping itself, most of the time it happens when you are not present in the room. But unlike housekeeping, nothing is touch or changed when a visual inspection is done.

I'd like a link to the written Hilton policy on room checks, please. The most recent Hilton we stayed at two weeks ago (Homewood Suites in Nashville) doesn't even have daily housekeeping, nor was it posted anywhere on site or their website there would be daily room inspections. I'd like to see some proof for your claim this is a company-wide Hilton policy.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I'd like to see some proof for your claim this is a company-wide Hilton policy.

Even if it is, it’s rarely actually done - the Hilton example I gave was one example of so many Hilton and other properties I’ve stayed at.

I don’t like the idea of others entering my room, period. Mostly for security of my belongings. But such is life these days.

 

[Chi84]

If they own the property they are not liable for any incidents?

Of course they are if they’re at fault for doing something intentionally or negligently wrong. Why even ask?

 

[Hockey89]

Even if it is, it’s rarely actually done - the Hilton example I gave was one example of so many Hilton and other properties I’ve stayed at.

I don’t like the idea of others entering my room, period. Mostly for security of my belongings. But such is life these days.

It's not your room.... This is really difficult for some to understand, and they can enter once a day to make sure things are fine...

 

[Disone]

I'd like a link to the written Hilton policy on room checks, please. The most recent Hilton we stayed at two weeks ago (Homewood Suites in Nashville) doesn't even have daily housekeeping, nor was it posted anywhere on site or their website there would be daily room inspections. I'd like to see some proof for your claim this is a company-wide Hilton policy.

Hostile much? Sorry you are getting angry. Look I don't work for Hilton, but I have been in lodging and have been in lodging (front desk, housekeeping, custodial for over 3 decades). I'm not speculating. As for Hilton you already have a first hand account of someone who has experienced it even though he does believe it's rare, It is absolute confirmation that it does happen. You can go look for your proof. Below is not proof but it is something from Google.

Also maybe if value:

Hilton changes its 'Do Not Disturb' sign policy

Hilton is joining other hotels in re-thinking the ubiquitous “Do Not Disturb” sign.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Disone]

Even if it is, it’s rarely actually done - the Hilton example I gave was one example of so many Hilton and other properties I’ve stayed at.

I don’t like the idea of others entering my room, period. Mostly for security of my belongings. But such is life these days.

Again it's rare because of the housekeeper cleans the room, they're not going to send the security host. The housekeeping itself counts as a visual inspection.

In the case of Disney, if the housekeeper can't get into your room, someone from housekeeping will do the visual inspection. So it's not really the case of others entering your room.

 

[Ayla]

Hostile much? Sorry you are getting angry. Look I don't work for Hilton, but I have been in lodging and have been in lodging (front desk, housekeeping, custodial for over 3 decades). I'm not speculating. As for Hilton you already have a first hand account of someone who has experienced it even though he does believe it's rare, It is absolute confirmation that it does happen. You can go look for your proof. Below is not proof but it is something from Google.

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LOL I am not the least bit hostile. I am asking for proof of what you claim. AI Google doesn't count. I want written proof from Hilton's company policies, saying someone will enter the room daily to inspect it.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Of course they are if they’re at fault for doing something intentionally or negligently wrong. Why even ask?

That was what you implied - maybe you didn’t understand the post you quoted. Oh well

 

[Disone]

LOL I am not the least bit hostile. I am asking for proof of what you claim. AI Google doesn't count. I want written proof from Hilton's company policies, saying someone will enter the room daily to inspect it.

You are being hostile. You're laughing and demanding.

It's not Google AI. It's just regular Google.

I provided you link to when Hilton started the policy.

@TrainsOfDisney first hand account that he actually did have security knock on his door because housekeeping said they couldn't get in

I shared my own time working in lodging.

Nothing has satisfied you and you've been perfectly clear about that.

I bow out of this conversation with you, in this case you have made up your mind That I am absolutely wrong and it does not matter what I say or what evidence I present to you.

I am confident that others reading this thread have been presented the correct information And the "why " behind why it is done.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

@TrainsOfDisney first hand account that he actually did have security knock on his door because housekeeping said they couldn't get in

That’s not what I said… housekeeping “reported” my dnd sign which for whatever reason sent security to my room.

My point also was…. That was the only time outside of Disney I’ve seen anything like this.

 

[Chi84]

That was what you implied - maybe you didn’t understand the post you quoted. Oh well

This is the post I responded to:

God for bid something happened a good lawyer could pick Disney's room check apart

The person wasn't saying Disney did anything wrong. He was saying that if "something happened" a lawyer could pick apart Disney's room check. That is incorrect.

Disney's policy is within its right as property owner to inspect its property. It is expressly made known to the guest that someone will be entering the room every day to do an inspection of the room.

If Disney somehow performs that inspection negligently or does something intentionally wrong during the inspection, that is a wrong wholly apart from the inspection itself.

If a guest injures himself trying to set up some sort of barrier to entry or decides to jump out a window when he hears security knock, that's on him.

I get that sometimes you like to engage for the heck of it, but please don't imply that I can't understand what I read in these threads. It's offensive.

 

[Disone]

That’s not what I said… housekeeping “reported” my dnd sign which for whatever reason sent security to my room.

My point also was…. That was the only time outside of Disney I’ve seen anything like this.

But that is what I meant. I apologize that you feel misquoted. That is not my intent. Simply that housekeeping reported your D&D sign so they sent the security host to go check your room. At Disney a person from within a housekeeping would do that instead of a security host.

The point being that you have a first-hand experience of Hilton doing something that ayla say Hilton does not do. I even went so far as to credit that to your experience that is rare. So I really tried to not miss represent your experience

 

[plutofan15]

You are being hostile. You're laughing and demanding.

It's not Google AI. It's just regular Google.

I provided you link to when Hilton started the policy.

@TrainsOfDisney first hand account that he actually did have security knock on his door because housekeeping said they couldn't get in

I shared my own time working in lodging.

Nothing has satisfied you and you've been perfectly clear about that.

I bow out of this conversation with you, in this case you have made up your mind That I am absolutely wrong and it does not matter what I say or what evidence I present to you.

I am confident that others reading this thread have been presented the correct information And the "why " behind why it is done.

As a member of these forums I assume that you are well aware that there are other members who are never wrong and that their opinions are gospel. There are some who get very defensive and, at times, rather rude if their opinions are questioned or if presented with facts which state otherwise. Happy New Year!

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It's offensive.

it’s offensive to say we read the same post differently? And what do you mean I engage just for the heck of it? Are you getting paid to post… I thought we were all here for the heck of it! Haha

 

[Chi84]

it’s offensive to say we read the same post differently?

No. It’s offensive to say:

maybe you didn’t understand the post you quoted. Oh well

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

No they are not looking for sexy trafficking specifically. Off you mention RPR because right on there front desks is a sign telling they absolutely will go into every room every day and it is not optional. As I live locally maybe I will try to swing by and take a picture and post. You are absolutely wrong about Disney being the only one and their reason, thoughbyour suggestion / speculating is a good reason.

I was not guessing. It is fact that the Las Vegas shooting is why this all started and is kept and with the recent events in both LV and New Orleans, this is not going away soon.

I never saw that sign at check in at RPR. We did have daily room service which has always been routine for RPR, excluding Covid days.
It is known that they are checking for sex trafficking of young kids, and probably use the shootings to explain their entrance into the rooms. If they are really checking for weapons, they would have to search thoroughly including suitcases and dressers, under the beds, etc. This is not the case. It seems they do a quick check in the rooms and don't do what would be needed to check for weapons, if they are worried about a shooting. A quick check of the room would show if children are there or anything is out of place, and they know what to look for. They are not looking for weapons.
WDW would be a great place for trafficking with the number of kids at the resorts/parks. It should not be dismissed as just because of the LV shooting. So, I disagree with you on this one!

 

[John park hopper]

I never saw that sign at check in at RPR. We did have daily room service which has always been routine for RPR, excluding Covid days.
It is known that they are checking for sex trafficking of young kids, and probably use the shootings to explain their entrance into the rooms. If they are really checking for weapons, they would have to search thoroughly including suitcases and dressers, under the beds, etc. This is not the case. It seems they do a quick check in the rooms and don't do what would be needed to check for weapons, if they are worried about a shooting. A quick check of the room would show if children are there or anything is out of place, and they know what to look for. They are not looking for weapons.
WDW would be a great place for trafficking with the number of kids at the resorts/parks. It should not be dismissed as just because of the LV shooting. So, I disagree with you on this one!

I never gave it a thought there was a concern with child trafficking at WDW. What are the actual statistics on this on an annual basis.

 

[Disone]

I never saw that sign at check in at RPR. We did have daily room service which has always been routine for RPR, excluding Covid days.
It is known that they are checking for sex trafficking of young kids, and probably use the shootings to explain their entrance into the rooms. If they are really checking for weapons, they would have to search thoroughly including suitcases and dressers, under the beds, etc. This is not the case. It seems they do a quick check in the rooms and don't do what would be needed to check for weapons, if they are worried about a shooting. A quick check of the room would show if children are there or anything is out of place, and they know what to look for. They are not looking for weapons.
WDW would be a great place for trafficking with the number of kids at the resorts/parks. It should not be dismissed as just because of the LV shooting. So, I disagree with you on this one!

The type of weapon the Las Vegas shooter used would not easily concealed in a room. The fact that the industry started doing this in response to Las Vegas shooting is not really a debate. Very easy to Google that information.

Fast forward to today and why it's kept around... While I agree that perhaps a good reason is the trafficking it's not the reason why it started. Having said that finding children in a room at Walt Disney World is not uncommon but the vast majority of the time the room check occurs when the guests are not present in the room, just like housekeeping itself. Now finding child in the room alone usually says call the Orange county sheriff's department. (And then comes a strong conversation with the parents get to have with a legal authority)

If you remain unconvinced that's fine too..... Again it would still be a perfectly valid reason to want to check a room. My point was Disney is not the only company doing room checks on DND rooms or rooms a guest who has declined housekeeping service.

Btw. I thank you for how respectfully you have disagreed with me on this, thank you for keeping it civil. Appreciated!

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

I never gave it a thought there was a concern with child trafficking at WDW. What are the actual statistics on this on an annual basis.

I'm not sure. I have read this at different sites at different times, so can't answer that. I know I read this on different Disney sites when all this room checking was going on and people were so upset. It makes sense to me that they would look for suspicious signs in the rooms rather than just peeking inthe door and saying it's a room check supposely for weapons???