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Club 32 - Fantasia, Fantasyland Project
- Thread starter MA Screamin'
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kap91
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Quick bit of trolling around the internet and found this.
"Something cool I heard from a friend at Walt Disney Imagineering: the incredibly complex ride system used in Musical Circus was actually designed for a never-built ride for an unnamed Pavilion at Epcot. It makes a whole lot of sense for an Epcot ride if you think about it, kind of a "Carousel Theater 2.0". The capacity on Musical Circus is ENORMOUS, especially it's capability of 5 (!) circular platform ride vehicles, that not only lift up into the show scenes, rotate 360 degrees around, move DOWN out of the show scenes and then amazingly move across forward (and sometimes diagonally) through the tripped out fiber-optic starfield world. The ride system is crazy expensive, which explains why we never got it at Epcot. It's not trackless (the LPS system used in Pooh's Hunny Hunt & Aquatopia at TDR) but rather the guided wire system used in Ellen's Energy Adventure and the 4th Dimension sequence in Orlando's Tower of Terror. "http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38591&start=470
Definitely has increased my idea of what I think is even feasible in a ride system.
"Something cool I heard from a friend at Walt Disney Imagineering: the incredibly complex ride system used in Musical Circus was actually designed for a never-built ride for an unnamed Pavilion at Epcot. It makes a whole lot of sense for an Epcot ride if you think about it, kind of a "Carousel Theater 2.0". The capacity on Musical Circus is ENORMOUS, especially it's capability of 5 (!) circular platform ride vehicles, that not only lift up into the show scenes, rotate 360 degrees around, move DOWN out of the show scenes and then amazingly move across forward (and sometimes diagonally) through the tripped out fiber-optic starfield world. The ride system is crazy expensive, which explains why we never got it at Epcot. It's not trackless (the LPS system used in Pooh's Hunny Hunt & Aquatopia at TDR) but rather the guided wire system used in Ellen's Energy Adventure and the 4th Dimension sequence in Orlando's Tower of Terror. "http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38591&start=470
Definitely has increased my idea of what I think is even feasible in a ride system.
spacemt354
Chili's
Great finds here.
I definitely agree with the first video -- it looks like a very interesting ride system.
kap91
Well-Known Member
Universal just filed a patent for a break away theatre ride system.
http://themeparkuniversity.com/universal/universal-parks-files-patent-interactive-puzzle-theater/
http://themeparkuniversity.com/universal/universal-parks-files-patent-interactive-puzzle-theater/
Pi on my Cake
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- In the Parks
- Yes
I think this project for very caught up in finding a cool ride system that we kinda lost track of the actual ride. I vote we simplify a bit. Something like a boat ride. Allow the visuals and music to be the star more than the ride vehicle.
Have a Fantasia boat ride focused on the shorts other than Sorcerer's Apprentice and Chernabog downstairs. A Yensid walkthrough upstairs. And Chernabog in the Villains land (is he still a part of that?)
Have a Fantasia boat ride focused on the shorts other than Sorcerer's Apprentice and Chernabog downstairs. A Yensid walkthrough upstairs. And Chernabog in the Villains land (is he still a part of that?)
spacemt354
Chili's
Chernabog should be part of @orlando678- 's hydrocoaster in the Villains Land last I checked, but he can confirm on that.
And I agree this part of the project has gotten a bit cluttered with the original people heading it not as active anymore. A boat ride works for me! Originally I think I had suggested a Sorcerer's Apprentice Boat Ride. I have some concept art all ready for it as well
Pi on my Cake
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I like it. We could simplify even more by having the Yensid's Tower walkthrough be the queue. That gives us one ride to work on and we can focus entirely on what made the movie great: visuals and music. Once we get the basic ride through done, we can discuss if the more creative ride systems would work betterChernabog should be part of @orlando678- 's hydrocoaster in the Villains Land last I checked, but he can confirm on that.
And I agree this part of the project has gotten a bit cluttered with the original people heading it not as active anymore. A boat ride works for me! Originally I think I had suggested a Sorcerer's Apprentice Boat Ride. I have some concept art all ready for it as well
Suchomimus
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I have some concept art all ready for it as well
spacemt354
Chili's
@MA Screamin' -- first off...hope you've been well. Secondly -- any more thoughts for Fantasia? 
@MA Screamin' -- first off...hope you've been well. Secondly -- any more thoughts for Fantasia?
I've been okay. If I've been free, that's a another story. So much schoolwork.
I honestly don't, and I don't wanna share anything that's half*ss, so hopefully Sunday, I can delve right back in. I don't want to hurt this project any longer, so we'll chat then
spacemt354
Chili's
No don't worry you've had great contributions -- this weekend is fine! And school comes first. Looking forward to it!I've been okay. If I've been free, that's a another story. So much schoolwork.
I honestly don't, and I don't wanna share anything that's half*ss, so hopefully Sunday, I can delve right back in. I don't want to hurt this project any longer, so we'll chat then
FigmentPigments
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I think the boat ride would do very well in this. I can see the brooms poring water into the boat chanel as you pass by. I can get behind this. If nobody minds, I'd like to proceed with this.
FigmentPigments
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Sorry for so many posts in a row, but are we thinking only Fantasia and not Fantasia 2? I have an idea about the ending scene, but don't want to assume anything. 
spacemt354
Chili's
Just go right ahead with your vision for it!Sorry for so many posts in a row, but are we thinking only Fantasia and not Fantasia 2? I have an idea about the ending scene, but don't want to assume anything.
Free reign!
FigmentPigments
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Figment would like to know about the scale of this ride. are you guys thinking boats where people sit single file or boat like Frozen/pirates?
spacemt354
Chili's
A boat like Frozen/Pirates was the direction I was assuming/thinking. But whatever she wants it to be is totally fine!
FigmentPigments
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Okay. thank you. she was hoping for pirates and not single file so that works. I hope you guys like this when its done because this looks really cool just for me.A boat like Frozen/Pirates was the direction I was assuming/thinking. But whatever she wants it to be is totally fine!
spacemt354
Chili's
I'm sure it's going to be! Can't wait to see it!
spacemt354
Chili's
Morning everyone!
@FigmentPigments in regards to the Fantasia Castle -- did you still want to design it? Only reason why I ask is I know you have a lot on your plate (not only with the doctors, but Ratigans, Sorcerer's Apprentice, and Big Hero 6 as well) so if you needed anyone to draw up a few sketches for it...and then post the sketches and you choose which one you like best, or you give a description of what you want, and someone else draws it up, we can do that!
I know @MonorailRed had offered to help with that too! But just wanted to ask first!
@FigmentPigments in regards to the Fantasia Castle -- did you still want to design it? Only reason why I ask is I know you have a lot on your plate (not only with the doctors, but Ratigans, Sorcerer's Apprentice, and Big Hero 6 as well) so if you needed anyone to draw up a few sketches for it...and then post the sketches and you choose which one you like best, or you give a description of what you want, and someone else draws it up, we can do that!
I know @MonorailRed had offered to help with that too! But just wanted to ask first!
FigmentPigments
Well-Known Member
Figment says red is more than welcome to do this castle. She has complete faith in reds abilities. Figment said she was going to do a rain version of the castle where designs show up on the castle when it's wet so if red would like to do that too she can. Figment says that she was mainly going to write up the castle description and the surrounding area like fantasia gardens ??? She said that you guys were talking about the landscaping taking cues from Fantasia and Disneyland paris.