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Mmoore29

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Cliff said:
Break the parks off. Sell them to a company that CARES about them...that's all I want to see. The parks...if cared for well...will give any buyer solid profit margins. The parks' profit & loss are perfectly self sustaining on their own. Again, if they are operated "well" they will be a good asset to any company that ownes them.

Again...I use Tokyo as a sparking example of this concept. Tokyo takes cares for their two properties VERY carefully and respectfully and it shows!
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NOT EVERY COMPANY IS LIKE ORIENTAL LAND.

Most buyers wouldn't treat the parks like them. They'll slice spending more, make the parks really deteriorate, and then bulldoze them to turn it all into apartment complexes, strip malls, and other such nondescript signs of urban blight. And Disney WILL suffer.

Peltz would also completely gut every division, cut muscles and organs out of the body, and make it bleed to death until someone like Comcast can come along and launch a new hostile takeover. And this time, Roy and Stan Gold are not there to fight on Disney's behalf.

In short, Peltz would bring an apocalyptic scenario to Disney. The only solution: LET IGER STAY.
 
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Cliff

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Mmoore29 said:
NOT EVERY COMPANY IS LIKE ORIENTAL LAND.

Most buyers wouldn't treat the parks like them. They'll slice spending more, make the parks really deteriorate, and then bulldoze them to turn it all into apartment complexes, strip malls, and other such nondescript signs of urban blight. And Disney WILL suffer.

Peltz would also completely gut every division, cut muscles and organs out of the body, and make it bleed to death until someone like Comcast can come along and launch a new hostile takeover. And this time, Roy and Stan Gold are not there to fight on Disney's behalf.

In short, Peltz would bring an apocalyptic scenario to Disney. The only solution: LET IGER STAY.
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I respectfully disagree. I think that Iger's policies are the cause of much of Disney's suffering today. He is arrogant and entitled and he needs to go in order to start the repair work.

Iger hurts the company more than he helps it and he needs to go now. This company is bigger and more important than one man is.
 
Dranth

Dranth

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Cliff said:
You sound like you are sitting next to him in his boardroom strategy meetings.

The truth is...you dont know at all. You are just guessing like the rest of us here
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It is what he has done to the other companies he has been involved with. That is what his little group does. It is how he makes his money. Why on earth do you believe he is going to do something different this time?

I get it, you don't like Iger and what he has done. A LOT of people on this board don't. Fine, but he will be gone soon enough either because he will:

1. Complete what he wants to do and will move on again.
2. Be forced out because the company doesn't recover and the plans he implemented do not work. The key to this is his plans have to have TIME to work and it has only been a year.
3. Simply passes on because he is at that age where that can just happen.

In everyone of those scenarios Disney still exists largely as we know it (likely minus the ABC broadcasting apparatus) and a new CEO/board can come in and run with it. If the Peltz route happens there is no more recognizable Disney. What he does to companies he gets involved with cannot be undone. There is no bringing segments back after they have been stripped and sold.
 
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Mmoore29

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Cliff said:
I respectfully disagree. I think that Iger's policies are the cause of much of Disney's suffering today. He is arrogant and entitled and he needs to go in order to start the repair work.

Iger hurts the company more than he helps it and he needs to go now. This company is bigger and more important than one man is.
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Iger is not Eisner. Eisner very much was the type of person who went around saying "I am Disney and Disney is me."

That's not Iger. Iger is much more low-key than that, knows when to give division heads rope so they can run things as they please, delegates considerably, and is not afraid to admit "I don't know and I need help; I can't do it alone." After all, Iger got rid of Peter Murphy and Strategic Planning.

Iger arguably would've been better for the No. 2 position under Eisner instead of Ovitz. Iger could've been the new Frank Wells. (Of course, Wells was not this sainted angel that so many people like to turn him into, this infallible figure who could do no wrong, but he did a lot, that is true. And Iger could've been that if chosen to be Eisner's successor back in '95 after announcing the ABC deal, before the overtures to Ovitz.)
 
Dranth

Dranth

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Cliff said:
I respectfully disagree. I think that Iger's policies are the cause of much of Disney's suffering today. He is arrogant and entitled and he needs to go in order to start the repair work.

Iger hurts the company more than he helps it and he needs to go now. This company is bigger and more important than one man is.
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Just curious, what policy? Like which one in particular do you think is particularly egregious and what would you do differently?
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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the.dreamfinder said:
Random fact about OLC: They offer OLC cast no discounts or comp tickets. TWDC cast get no discounts as well.

Nelson Peltz would probably love this.
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Peltz would also probably love:

-doing away with DME
-instituting variable pricing
-implementing a pay-to-ride upcharge scheme
-doing away with daily housekeeping
-raise food prices by 15%-20%
-flush hundreds of hours of recently produced content down the drain
-remove tram service from many of the parks
-shutter one of the water parks at a time
-do away with most of the on-site benefits for Disney Resort guests, and replace with more up charged, after hours parties
-cancel announced expansion plans for the parks
-stifle any new or innovative IP, and force the studios to churn out sequels to already proven franchises


We can’t let such a person be anywhere near the levels of power at TWDC!
 
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Mmoore29

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Dranth said:
Simple passes on because he is at that age where that can just happen.
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Murdoch is 92 and is determined to beat the reaper. Eisner is 81, so if he ever felt inclined to step into Disney (such as to prevent a deal for selling ABC, since such a deal is not necessary for Disney's health, and the other conglomerates will not sell THEIR networks), he could.

Iger is younger than both of them. He's got time on his side.
 
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Mmoore29

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
Peltz would also probably love:

-doing away with DME
-instituting variable pricing
-implementing a pay-to-ride upcharge scheme
-doing away with daily housekeeping
-raise food prices by 15%-20%
-flush hundreds of hours of recently produced content down the drain
-remove tram service from many of the parks
-shutter one of the water parks at a time
-do away with most of the on-site benefits for Disney Resort guests, and replace with more up charged, after hours parties
-cancel announced expansion plans for the parks
-stifle any new or innovative IP, and force the studios to churn out sequels to already proven franchises


We can’t let such a person be anywhere near the levels of power at TWDC!
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Peltz won't do a darned thing about any of that. He'd just embezzle money for himself and claim it's "for the shareholders." If anything, he and David Zaslav and John Malone should be bosom buddies.
 
Dranth

Dranth

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
Peltz would also probably love:

-doing away with DME - Chapek
-instituting variable pricing - Iger
-implementing a pay-to-ride upcharge scheme - Chapek
-doing away with daily housekeeping - Chapek
-raise food prices by 15%-20% - Both
-flush hundreds of hours of recently produced content down the drain - Both
-remove tram service from many of the parks - Chapek
-shutter one of the water parks at a time - Both
-do away with most of the on-site benefits for Disney Resort guests - Chapek, and replace with more up charged, after hours parties - Both
-cancel announced expansion plans for the parks - Chapek
-stifle any new or innovative IP, and force the studios to churn out sequels to already proven franchises - Neither, all studios have been releasing new IP


We can’t let such a person be anywhere near the levels of power at TWDC!
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So, seeing as how only one negative on your list is strictly Iger then yes, Peltz would love those things because he already said he did when he whole heartedly endorsed Chapek while Chapek was doing the very things you are complaining about.
 
Dranth

Dranth

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Mmoore29 said:
Murdoch is 92 and is determined to beat the reaper. Eisner is 81, so if he ever felt inclined to step into Disney (such as to prevent a deal for selling ABC, since such a deal is not necessary for Disney's health, and the other conglomerates will not sell THEIR networks), he could.

Iger is younger than both of them. He's got time on his side.
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Younger yes and rich so that helps but your chances of making it another year drops pretty quickly as each year goes by once you reach a certain age and Iger is right there.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

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bmr1591

bmr1591

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Cliff said:
Break the parks off. Sell them to a company that CARES about them...that's all I want to see. The parks...if cared for well...will give any buyer solid profit margins. The parks' profit & loss are perfectly self sustaining on their own. Again, if they are operated "well" they will be a good asset to any company that ownes them.

Again...I use Tokyo as a sparking example of this concept. Tokyo takes cares for their two properties VERY carefully and respectfully and it shows!

Oriental Land Company seems to care more about their parks than Burbank cares about theirs lately.
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Why would Disney sell off the part of their company that is holding up the rest of their failing ventures?
 

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