Chip N' Dales Imagineering Rangers- Project 9

[figmntal95]

Well, I know last round wasn't our best work. But there's this round to come back!

Our task is to create a new mode of transportation to connect everything. My first thought was a mode of air-powered below-ground vehicles. That may be to complicated. There may be some insight in Walt's original Peoplemovers idea for EPCOT the City, however.

I'm willing to be team leader this round, stitch always seems to be too busy to take on the responsibility. If not, by all means, he could be the leader.

 

[Chrononymous]

Go for it Figmntal! ...you have great leadership qualities...

My first thought was actually the air gondola idea...like the skyway used to be. Don't know quite how practical that is though!

 

[figmntal95]

Go for it Figmntal! ...you have great leadership qualities...

My first thought was actually the air gondola idea...like the skyway used to be. Don't know quite how practical that is though!

I too thought Skyway.... except imagine how slow those things would go, and it would be EXTREMELY complicated to have a system that connects all the parks, DD, water parks, resorts....

I'm still leaning towards the air-powered below ground vehicles, or just below ground Peoplemovers. There's not much space up there, so maybe putting it below is better. Both are futuristic and "green", assuming Peoplemover would use LIM movement.

 

[stitchcastle]

We can't do anything underground because of Florida's low water table.

An air gondola would be nice but it's too slow and for somewhere as flat as WDW, it wouldn't really make sense.

A mag lev train system would be nice, we could even use it to replace the monorails and just retro fit the exisitng beams. It would also be quite picturesque.

We could use a combo of that with maybe smaller people movers or an electric railway for the downtown disney area.

we could connect it all on a massive transportation hub that features a giant parking structure so that in essence, anyone can just park their car there and never need for the entirety of the their stay. It could keep guests in the resort exclusively.

I was thinking that it could take the place of the ticket and transportation center and turn it into a giant transportation hub for the maglev, the boats and even the buses (which at this point won't be as prevalent)

they could look like these: http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/maglev-china.jpg
but design it to look like the TDR monorail : http://www.tdrfan.com/around_the_resort/disney_resort_line_monorail/monorail.jpg

it would be environmentally friendly because it would reduce the bus fleet AND the number of guest vehicles on the roads.

the plan could be like this: a main transportation hub, let's say it looks like this: http://www.laughingplace.com/files/latest/20060207b.jpg

and this is where people convene to buy their tickets, book reservations even shop and dine, basically an airport but not.

now the entire resort will be divided into 4 main districts: The Magic Kingdom/Bay Lake area, The EPCOT area, the Hollywood Studios/Downtown Disney Area and the Animal Kingdom/Western Beltway area. The 4 main districts could then be reached by two options:

a) by Walt Disney World Shuttle - a small fleet of buses that are now hydrogen fueled.
b) The Walt Disney World Mag Lev System.

The Mag Lev system then has their own stations in each district that are connected to each districts' own smaller public transportation system.

The Magic Kingdom Area has the Ferries, which have been expanded to service all surrounding resorts, including the new Dolce Vita Resort and Spa.
another Magic Kingdom area transportation system is the newly expanded Walt Disney World Railroad which connects the actual WDW railroad with the contemporary Resort, Fort Wilderness and the Wilderness Campgrounds with the Magic Kingdom.

The EPCOT area has a a new people mover system that is extended to World Showcase and the surrounding resorts.

The Hollywood Studios/Downtown Disney Area now features a red car trolley system: http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_0151-copy.jpg that takes guests to and fro (and little known secret, it also takes guests to World Showcase but shhh!) and of course there are the Ferries that go between them and EPCot.

The Animal Kingdom/Western Beltway Area station is more modest and they have a unique feature with a small fleet of Safari trucks that take guests to and from DAK, the Western Beltway Shopping district, the Four Seasons Hotel and Blizzard Beach.

 

[Chrononymous]

I love the central hub idea a lot, Stitchcastle!
You always have super refined ideas from the get-go!

having one place for all the cars to go, if we had our way, would free up a lot of current parking spaces for more attractions in each park.

The mag lev sysyem is also very cool!!

and I do like different types of transport (themed to where they are going) to be pretty genius.

But the idea of more busses? Even if they are greener...well...they are still busses.
They just seem sorta redundant to me.

And trucks and trolleys are certainly very cool...but do the judges want us to do something more unique and unusual? I got that from the description...that they want something totally new that disney isn't currently using.


My idea...
What if we made use of the fact that this is all one great big swamp, and dredge out canals and waterways that connect everything?

My brain sees enclosed gondolas...but like the people mover...a continual boat-like transportation sysytem...that is fueled by it's own kinetic energy.

Alas...I am a designer more than an engineer...so I have no idea if this would actually work or not.

 

[stitchcastle]

well something fueled by kinetic energy, I'm not sure if it will be too slow, and something as massive as WDW would require a LOT of those enclosed gondolas.

I would love a massive expansion of waterways but I don't know if that would be environmentally friendly as we're going to end up digging through the property a whole lot. If someone could say that it counts as being environmentally feasible then I say add that as it would greatly add to not only the transportation options, but would make the resort as a whole that much prettier.

and I'm not saying add more busses but rather replace the entire current bus fleet with a handful of area specific "green" buses that won;t run as frequently. It also helps because we still need to ferry people from the airport to the main Hub.

Unless there are any objections, I think we're definitely going with at least the main transportation hub aspect of the plan. So I think we should start designing the area.

I'll draw a layout of the maglev tracks tomorrow. and maybe someone can do the layout for the trolley routes for DTDisney and DHS?

for the presentation, we gotta focus on how our plan greatly reduces road traffic in the over-all resort as well as making sure guests stay on property for the duration of their stay, not to mention the guests themselves never having to worry about their own transportation or getting around the resort.

also, by retro fitting the existing monorail beams, we a) save a lot of construction costs and b) recylce and preserve the environment even more.

Also, Figmntal, we could use your story skills with the actual presentation by telling the stories of 2 families coming to visit WDW, one from out of town coming through the airport and one from south florida who has drive to the resort. Basically, you could write down their stories of how they end up getting around WDW easily without needing their own car.

 

[figmntal95]

Ok, I'm liking the maglev system.

Also, I'm leader right? I'll PM Mater that and what we're doing...

 

[figmntal95]

Might I suggest LIM for a "green" motor system?

I can do the families stories, and write up the narrations for the system.

 

[figmntal95]

Also, some new suggestions for transportation destinations:

Red Line
The ride line takes you to the Magic Kingdom Area:
-Magic Kingdom Park
-Disney's Polynesian Resort
-Disney's Contemporary Resort
-Disney's Grand Floridian Resort
-Fort Wilderness Campgrounds
-Disney's Wilderness Lodge/Villas at Disney's Wilderness Lodge
-Disney's Dolce Vita Resort and Spa/The Villas @

Richard Petty's Driving Experience, Shades of Green and other Golf Courses should be accessible by another form of transportation. One leg can take you to Shades of Green with Magnolia, Palm, and Oak Trail
Another can take you to Richard Petty's (maybe just the MK tram can), and then a third leg can take you to Osprey Ridge and Eagle Pines. Or, since this will probably take place in the future, we can just put the Four Seasons resort as a destination.

And the ferries can also take guests to areas around the MK area. Including the former Discovery Island, now LOST Island. We don't have to include this, that's just an idea I have....

Purple Line
This can take you to the EPCOT area.
-Epcot
-Disney's Beach Club Resort/Villas
-Disney's Yacht Club Resort
-Disney's Boardwalk Inn/Villas
-Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin Hotel
-EPCOT Area Peoplemover Station

Of course, the Peoplemover System can take guests from Future World to World Showcase.

Yellow Line
This takes you to Disney's Hollywood Studios and Surrounding areas.
-Disney's Hollywood Studios
-Blizzard Beach Water Park
-Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort
-Disney's Pop Century Resort
-Disney's Wide World of Sports Complex

The Red Trolley Line takes you to and from DHS and Blizzard Beach.

The trolleys could also take you to Fantasia and Winter Summerland Golf Courses, or a new mode of transportation.

The Ferries can also take guests to and from DHS and EPCOT.

Green Line
The Green Line takes you to Animal Kingdom/Western Beltway area.
-Disney's Animal Kingdom
-Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge/Villas
-Disney's Coronado Springs Resort
-Disney's All Star Music Resort
-Disney's All Star Movies Resort
-Disney's All Star Sports Resort
-Western Beltway

A unique system of Safari jeeps can transport guests to/from Animal Kingdom and Animal Kingdom Lodge.

Blue Line
The Blue line transports guests around the Downtown Disney area.
-Downtown Disney
-Disney's Typhoon Lagoon Water Park
-Disney's Port Orleans Resort-French Quarter
-Disney's Port Orleans Resort-Riverside
-Disney's Old Key West Resort
-Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa
-Best Western Lake Buena Vista Resort Hotel
-Doubletree Guest Suite Resort
-Regal Sun Resort
-Hilton Orlando Resort
-Holiday Inn in the Walt Disney World Resort
-Royal Plaza
-Buena Vista Palace Resort and Spa

Some mode of transportation can take you to the Buena Vista Golf Course.

 

[Chrononymous]

I love this idea so far!

The hub is especially good.

and I do now understand what you mean about the busses...that would be a better option.

That is covering a lot on each line. Will it still be efficient to have to make so many stops on a single line, or would it be better to break a few of those up a bit?

 

[figmntal95]

I love this idea so far!

The hub is especially good.

and I do now understand what you mean about the busses...that would be a better option.

That is covering a lot on each line. Will it still be efficient to have to make so many stops on a single line, or would it be better to break a few of those up a bit?

Great!

Yes, I can probably find a good place for it.

Who is this directed towards?

Yes it is. My personal idea is to have 2 or 3 stops per area, with each stop having a Peoplemover to each individual area. That would make things less congested and complicated. I can divide that post up into stops.

 

[TrevorA]

If someone could say that it counts as being environmentally feasible, then I say add that - as it would greatly add to not only the transportation options, but would make the resort as a whole that much prettier.

I'm not sure if this idea is still up in the air, but the waterway and/or canal system does, in fact, count as "environmentally friendly" - just so long as you're not fueling them with coal! :lookaroun


---TrevorA

 

[stitchcastle]

figmntal, I love the dividing of the areas!

we could just have them each have one main stop for each area with a beautifully decorated station for each. I imagine there would be two main track loops, the northern loop which is made of the old Monorail route and the southern loop which connects the rest of the property.

The different colored "lines" could refer to the different trains that provide direct service from the hub to the different areas.

Now since we're also essentially allowed to take the canal/waterway expansion route, the Ticket and Transportation Center Hub can also have these fanciful docks where it can ferry guests to all the main areas as well. All we have to do is dig up a massive waterway system that would connect the waters of Bay Lake, Seven Seas Lagoon, The Downtown Disney Lake area, World Showcase Lagoon and the lake connecting the Boardwalk area resorts and DHS.

And it's optional but we can also dig a new lake and canal system that would service the Western beltway/Animal Kingdom area. This also offers prime real estate for any future expansion be it hotels or new parks.

the LIM motor system would work great for the buses, figmntal!

chron, could you draw the new fleet of vehicles? the maglev trains with the colors specified by figmntal; and then a red car trolley and a new peoplemover vehicle; the new buses I think we could design them as if they were from the 30's similar to the Tokyo Disney Resort buses. We also need to design new water ferries that could be as easily iconic the monorails.

I figured the water fleet could be regular water taxis like the ones in World Showcase, coupled with some Paddle Steamers like the Molly Brown or Liberty Belle that would only specifically service the MK area resorts.

 

[figmntal95]

Sounds great Stitch.

Since we have the stops worked out, right now we need:

-Vehicle Artwork- Chrononymous
-Track Layout- Stitchcastle
-Station Designs- Stitchcastle
-Storylines: Me
-Spiel: Me

 

[TrevorA]

I don't mean to butt in, and I like to see that you've all decided to go above and beyond the criteria, but just remember that you will need one mode of transport that connects the entire resort. After that, it's all gravy.


---TrevorA

 

[figmntal95]

I don't mean to butt in, and I like to see that you've all decided to go above and beyond the criteria, but just remember that you will need one mode of transport that connects the entire resort. After that, it's all gravy.


---TrevorA

We have that, just with more outward transportation systems connected to the main one.

 

[Chrononymous]

I will get on to the drawings as soon as I am not vomiting so much!

Sorry I haven't been around...just been really sick!

 

[stitchcastle]

well we'll technically have two with the Maglev and the ferry boats, is 2 too much?

and don;t worry chron, take your time getting better

 

[TrevorA]

Two is better than one, but I just wanted to make sure you had at least one master mode of transportation.

Keep up the good work!


---TrevorA

 

[figmntal95]

Get well Chrony!

We have until Saturday to do this project, right?