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cymbaldiva
Active Member
Ya'll! Color me blonde but I just don't get it!
Why would the costumes be worth soooo much? I'm thinking (could be wrong though
) that John Stamos paid less than that for the original Disneyland sign..
I could be mistaken though ....that special was on very early in the morning! :lol:
Why would the costumes be worth soooo much? I'm thinking (could be wrong though
) that John Stamos paid less than that for the original Disneyland sign..I could be mistaken though ....that special was on very early in the morning! :lol:
Jordan0301
Member
Im guessing the reason the price is so high is...there is nothing like this anywhere else in the world really.
If someone bid this, and won it...and got to keep it...legally...which I doubt they would, they would be one of the only people in the world with these items.
That is a money maker right there.
I CAN NOT believe that this is really being auctioned, I promise Disney is all over it already.
Jordan
If someone bid this, and won it...and got to keep it...legally...which I doubt they would, they would be one of the only people in the world with these items.
That is a money maker right there.
I CAN NOT believe that this is really being auctioned, I promise Disney is all over it already.
Jordan
Yellow Shoes
Well-Known Member
These costumes, like the antiques on "Antiques Roadshow", or most of the items for sale on Ebay, are worth what someone will pay for them.
If this guy can get $50K, then that's what they're worth.
I think everyone here is hoping they're worth a trip to prison!
pezheadval
New Member
He listed them again...3 costumes for $9,000 this time!
Walt Disney World Park Costumes , Set of 3
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=724992508
Hopefully Disney can find out what is going on and get those costumes back. Like everyone was saying, they are obviously stolen!
Walt Disney World Park Costumes , Set of 3
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=724992508
Hopefully Disney can find out what is going on and get those costumes back. Like everyone was saying, they are obviously stolen!
Yellow Shoes
Well-Known Member
Well, now we know they're not worth $50,000!
Brer Penguin
Member
These are most likely stolen, but it is interesting that they were created in 1982. That's not the same Donald Duck costume they are using now. I wouldn't think Disney would keep these around if they were "discontinued" costumes. Anyone know about anything about this?
animegirllover
New Member
Wow, cool costumes!!! One of them I'll wear is probably Minnie.
Worldphile
New Member
*shrugs*
No one is going to prison over this, IMHO. Even if the costumes were stolen, and reported as such ot the Orange County Sheriff's Dept., what is the statute of limitations on theft in Florida?
Disney may have a claim to get their property back, but if that stuff is insured, and they made a claim which was paid by the insurer, then I think the costumes would techincally belong to the insurer. Or they just may be considered lost property after all this time.
But after 15-20 years, I'm not sure there is much that Disney can do criminally.
As for selling a Disney character item without paying royalties to Disney though..... :drevil:
They were stolen... there's no other way to get them off property. Being that they were stolen from private property located within a privately-run legal jurisdiction, I am not sure what it specifically is. Also, since Disney conducts its own private investigations, I believe they will get something
I don't know what the insurance is on something that they made... ex- can you insure a car that you personally manufactured. I doubt they insure the costumes.
there's always civil court..
cymbaldiva
Active Member
mktiggerman -
You know I agree with you just about all the time...but civil court?
That's for money damages...what court on the planet is going to award $$ damage to Disney?
Call me a pesimist if you will, but I really don't think so
You know I agree with you just about all the time...but civil court?
That's for money damages...what court on the planet is going to award $$ damage to Disney?
Call me a pesimist if you will, but I really don't think so
bearboysnc
Well-Known Member
Wow, you don't go to jail for burglery in FL?
It must be all those damn liberals in Dade County.
look at Disney's record when they go to court. They have only lost 4% of any case that they have gone to court over. Usually they prefer to settle out of court when they're getting sued, but when they're suing, the prosecute all the way.
Disney's lawyers do their job, and do it VERY well.
Worldphile
New Member
You can insure absoutley anything. Works of art are insured all the time. So, if Disney wanted to, they could insure the costumes against theft.
Disney can investigate all they want, but law enforcement and prosecution will be handled by the local authorities. Not Disney. Disney will have to turn over all the evidence they find to law enforcement if they want to pursue these guys crimnally. So the Orange County state's attorneys office will decide whether to prosecute or not. Not Disney.
All crimes have a statute of limitations. The more minor the crime, the shorter the statute of limitations. Some crimes, like murder, have an infinite statute of limitations. You can be prosecuted for murder until you die. Other crimes, like misdemeanor theft will have a short SOL like 5 years. So, authorities only have 5 years to find and prosecute the offenders.
I'm not sure what civil remedies Disney may have in Florida, which is why I mentioned the royalties angle.
Worldphile
New Member
I doubt it would be more than 10 years even for felony theft. In Illinois only Class X felonies like rape, murder, home invasion, etc have infinite statute of limitations. Most of the others are less than 10 years.
So, IF these are in fact stolen, it would have to be fairly recently to be prosecuted successfully.
Worldphile
New Member
Royalties would be one way to get at these guys since the chances of getting at them criminally are nil.
And. You can go after people that use yor logos, copyrights, etc. for royalties even if they didn't license them. I know for a fact that in addition to suing for infringement, the University of Notre Dame does this all the time. They get their cut from whatever revenue the guy using their logos generated.
how else would they be out on Ebay then? These aren't items which are sold to the public. The only 3 companies on earth who can get their hands on these are (obviously) Disney, (just as obvious) Oriental Land Co, and (not so obvious) Feld Entertainment (for Disney on Ice).
And judging that the tag on at least 1 of the costume pieces clearly says 'Magic Kingdom', these were at one time in WDW. Plus, the date of Manufacture is 1982, not the date of theft. These could have just as easily been stolen from a storage warehouse a month ago.