Change one thing in EPCOT

If you could change one thing in EPCOT


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luv

Well-Known Member
What's wrong with new restaurants?
They clog up the walkways, clutter up the views around the lagoon, cheapen and detract from the overall pleasantness of the World Showcase.

They also force people to pay for previously-free views of Illuminations, but that's not as bad, IMO.

Of all the things Disney has done to upset people over the years, this is THE one that really put a bee in my bonnet.
 

Funmeister's Delight

Active Member
My problem with Epcot is that its nothing more than a glorified mall now. There are almost no real attractions anymore and all you can do is eat and shop. Why even call it a theme park anymore?
 

Glasgow

Well-Known Member
This is a tough, tough question. Why? They all need to be done! My poor, poor Epcot ..

Still though, the greatest sin to me is having a shuttered attraction just sitting idle (for years no less!) while it could be entertaining guests (or at least absorbing crowds). Shame on you WDW.
 

Kristoff

Member
If I had a chance, I would probably change the whole concept of Innoventions. I would try to sign up partnerships with various companies (tech, auto, manufacturing) and showcase random proof of concepts of future technology. Let guests do some interactions with these displays and think for themselves how their lives could be changed 10 or 15 years down the road. Maybe keep one half of Innoventions reserved for some of the existing rides (sum of all thrills, fire thingy, piggy bank) and bring back the latest gaming machines to keep kids entertained and let them unwind.

Walt's original dream was to make Epcot the prototype community of tomorrow and really showcase technology of the future, so why not have a whole building devoted to that idea that could be continually improving and evolving as we do.
 

AdventureHasAName

Well-Known Member
VOTED: Other

Bring back the original Future World Pavilion names, exterior architecture (Test Track and Communicore clutter), theme songs, and logos. In other words, restore the things that made Future World feel like a cohesive land, instead of a jumbled mess of buildings with no thought put into them.
 

Figaro928

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
VOTED: Other

Bring back the original Future World Pavilion names, exterior architecture (Test Track and Communicore clutter), theme songs, and logos. In other words, restore the things that made Future World feel like a cohesive land, instead of a jumbled mess of buildings with no thought put into them.
But if you bring back the originals from the 80's its no longer Futureworld. It's Nostalgiaworld. I'm not saying that I like the state it is now - I don't. I agree with you that it is a jumbled mess. I just find it very interesting how many people here want to bring Fututreworld back into it's past.

A real FutureWorld should feel have every pavilion feel crisp, new and ultra-modern with constant updates. The way guest's felt in the early 80's when entering FutureWorld is how we deserve to feel now. I don't want Horizons, Dreamfinder or really anything that has already been retired. Instead give me new innovative updates of those old classics
 

KCheatle

Well-Known Member
I chose "Other" because I would add some rides in the world showcase. I know at one point there was supposed to be a roller coaster in Japan. I'm not sure I'd do that, because we already have 3 "grown-up" rides in the future world section. I would do another dark ride in Italy or something. They definitely have the space for it in between Germany and Italy, and Italy doesn't have a princess, a movie, or any other "kid" thing to really draw families to it (well, except for their awesome food, of course).

Ideally, I think it would be nice to have another ride in between Morocco and France, too. Not sure what it would be, but it would be nice to have something in that space.
 

AdventureHasAName

Well-Known Member
But if you bring back the originals from the 80's its no longer Futureworld. It's Nostalgiaworld. I'm not saying that I like the state it is now - I don't. I agree with you that it is a jumbled mess. I just find it very interesting how many people here want to bring Fututreworld back into it's past.

A real FutureWorld should feel have every pavilion feel crisp, new and ultra-modern with constant updates. The way guest's felt in the early 80's when entering FutureWorld is how we deserve to feel now. I don't want Horizons, Dreamfinder or really anything that has already been retired. Instead give me new innovative updates of those old classics

Of course it's still be Future World. There's a very popular misconception that all of the Future World attractions were 100% designed to be forward looking rides; they were not. The originals were very cleverly designed to stand the test of time. Many, many of the attractions were built with a large, lengthy, expensive "History of Pavilion Subject Matter X" ride or show ... and a smaller, easily changeable, inexpensively produced "A Look at the Future of Pavilion Subject Matter X" exhibit area. This was by design! The original park designers were not stupid; they knew that if they made the largest portion of each pavilion of a "historical look back" section, it would rarely require updates (as history rarely changes) - that's why the real money was spent there ...

World of Motion - the Omnimover attraction
Spaceship Earth - the Omnimover attraction
Horizons - the Omnimover attraction
Listen to the Land - the beginning portion of the boat ride
Universe of Energy - the middle portion with the animatronics

... and they were followed up with sections looking at the future that were designed to be inexpensively updated constantly ...

World of Motion - post show exhibits
Spaceship Earth - post show touch screen computers area (now exhibits)
Listen to the Land - the educational "here's how we're using new techniques here at EPCOT" area
Universe of Energy - the film portions of the attraction

Even the Imagination and Living Seas pavilions were designed with expensive, rarely intended to change attractions (the Omnimovers) and areas constantly intended to receive updates (Image Works, the 3-D film, Sea Base Alpha exhibits). Almost everything in Wonders of Life was easily and inexpensively updatable (including Cranium Command's video portions and reprogramable AA). And Communicore was designed to be updated for low cost constantly.

The people that came into management right after Frank Wells died (around 1994) did not understand any of what I posted above and simply had a "I know better than the guys that originally designed the park" attitude. And it's been a steady decline ever since. But, getting back to my original point, Future World was never solely (or even largely) about the Future. The pavilions were history museums; EPCOT Center was Disney's "Smithsonians on the National Mall" until the mid-90s.
 

Figaro928

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
@SunsetLament thankyou - very interesting. I never thought of it that way. My memories of the old Futureworld are just so 80's-tastic, but in that light I can understand really just how mangled it is now
 

LucyK

Well-Known Member
I chose other because although all options are good, EPCOT needs a new E-Ride, to help spread out the crowds. It's kinda sad to see people waiting up to 4 hours to ride a 5 minute ride, it needs more options, GOOD ones!
 
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Figaro928

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I never heard of either the German train or Japanese coaster. Were they truly on the Imagineer's radar or were they hear-say
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
Remove the Innoventions Canopy!!!
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wdwfan4ver

Well-Known Member
I never heard of either the German train or Japanese coaster. Were they truly on the Imagineer's radar or were they hear-say
I can confirm Mount Fuji was on the Imagineer's Radar based on what John Lithgow said as a hot for the 20th anniversary special for the Disney Channel called Walt Disney World: Past, Present, and Future and the fact there was concept art shown on the special also. On that Special, there was a preview of upcoming stuff for Walt Disney World with John mentioning the projects. Some of the projects mentioned did get open like Tower of Terror, and Splash Mountain, but some weren't.

The Projects for Epcot mentioned, but didn't open was Mountain Fuji, and Russian Pavilion. Space Pavilion also was mentioned. Each upcoming thing John mentioned, there actually was concept art shown on the television screen.

Walt Disney World: Past, Present, and Future was recorded ahead of time by Disney before it first aired on the Disney Channel back in 1991.
 

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