Cedar Point getting US first Tilt Coaster

[StarWarsGirl]

I know it is rare…. But people have died….

Never said I expect people would die

 

[lazyboy97o]

Never said I expect people would die…I do expect cedar would have safe practices….Still as someone who is not a thrill junkie(I am a Disney fan after all)but I will do a coaster if I feel safe and secure….being ride evac on a ride like this does not sound like a good time

Evacuating onto a level platform would probably be a bit easier than evacuating onto a staircase.

 

[DKampy]

Yes people have died at amusement parks on rollercoasters . Never said it happened at cedar parks…. And I still would not ride that coaster…. And yes I still believe the news should report such issues….I would want to know….Not sure why that opinion is so controversial

 

[Jrb1979]

Yes people have died at amusement parks on rollercoasters . Never said it happened at cedar parks…. And I still would not ride that coaster…. And yes I still believe the news should report such issues….I would want to know….Not sure why that opinion is so controversial

I'm not so much against reporting news like this. My issue is with the fear mongering it causes.
As someone who loves coasters and travels the country riding them. I have ridden close to 300 different coasters. I hate what these news stories do to coasters and parks.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes people have died at amusement parks on rollercoasters . Never said it happened at cedar parks…. And I still would not ride that coaster…. And yes I still believe the news should report such issues….I would want to know….Not sure why that opinion is so controversial

Because it’s the “just asking questions” nonsense. If you wanted actual information you wouldn’t be advocating for reports that don’t contain the actual information. These news stories are about the shock of seeing people walk down lift hills often with fire department escorts. That doesn’t tell you anything about “such issues” but does help validate fears.

 

[LSLS]

Why is Everest twice as dangerous? What do you know about evacuations that aren't being publicized?

One could just as easily conclude that it isn't dangerous and doesn't get evacuated, at least not frequently.

Quick look, I've found three articles over the past year talking about people being evacuated off Expedition Everest (I think all 3 different times, but at least 2 were definitely unique). The difference is A.) They were not news journalists (random fan sites showing TikTok videos), and B.) The framing of what happened. To quote from one article: "Who wouldn’t want a glimpse behind the scenes of the magic? Recently, a lucky group of Disney’s Animal Kingdom visitors got precisely that—a rare chance to explore the mysterious inside of Expedition Everest when their ride was unexpectedly halted at the roller coaster’s peak." This is nothing new, I've seen evacs since I was a kid when Magnum first opened at Cedar Point, it feels weird this has become a huge thing this year.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Doesn’t the Harry Potter bank coaster do this at universal?

 

[Chi84]

Quick look, I've found three articles over the past year talking about people being evacuated off Expedition Everest (I think all 3 different times, but at least 2 were definitely unique). The difference is A.) They were not news journalists (random fan sites showing TikTok videos), and B.) The framing of what happened. To quote from one article: "Who wouldn’t want a glimpse behind the scenes of the magic? Recently, a lucky group of Disney’s Animal Kingdom visitors got precisely that—a rare chance to explore the mysterious inside of Expedition Everest when their ride was unexpectedly halted at the roller coaster’s peak." This is nothing new, I've seen evacs since I was a kid when Magnum first opened at Cedar Point, it feels weird this has become a huge thing this year.

I suppose people with a fear of heights don’t go on certain coasters.

 

[Agent H]

My (granted irrational) anxiety says no.

 

[DKampy]

Because it’s the “just asking questions” nonsense. If you wanted actual information you wouldn’t be advocating for reports that don’t contain the actual information. These news stories are about the shock of seeing people walk down lift hills often with fire department escorts. That doesn’t tell you anything about “such issues” but does help validate fears.

Am I just asking questions???…. Were people evacuated off this coaster? If the answer is yes I would want to know… as someone who has a crippling fear of heights in certain situations…. But can do some coasters I would want to know…. I would never ride this…. I am not telling others not to… To show it is not just exclusive to certain parks… I also would not ride Everest either for the same reasons… and I do know Disney is as cautious with safety issues as they come

Edit: to give an example of a coaster I have done…. Hulk at Universal and enjoyed it… but if I heard they had an evac at those heights… Never again

 

[Baloo124]

These news stories are about the shock of seeing people walk down lift hills often with fire department escorts. That doesn’t tell you anything about “such issues” but does help validate fears.

Sometimes it's simply to inform the public of troublesome issues, and to help make expectations realistic.
Lightning Rod comes to mind at my local park, Dollywood. Opened with a launch hill but unfortunately had lots of downtime. It wasn't necessarily causing evacs all the time, but was closed frequently causing disappointment. My local news station reported on this. Not showing people evacuating, just saying this new ride may or may not be available when you visit the park. Set expectations accordingly.

Just a few weeks ago, same local news was praising Dollywood heavily when the park won a big Trip Advisor award as best in the US.

News is just gonna news. There's not an agenda to scare people away. Can't speak for clickbait bloggers though.

 

[Baloo124]

Been quiet past few weeks with Cedar Point, which hopefully means they are getting the kinks out of their new ride. It does look amazing.

 

[LSLS]

Sometimes it's simply to inform the public of troublesome issues, and to help make expectations realistic.
Lightning Rod comes to mind at my local park, Dollywood. Opened with a launch hill but unfortunately had lots of downtime. It wasn't necessarily causing evacs all the time, but was closed frequently causing disappointment. My local news station reported on this. Not showing people evacuating, just saying this new ride may or may not be available when you visit the park. Set expectations accordingly.

Just a few weeks ago, same local news was praising Dollywood heavily when the park won a big Trip Advisor award as best in the US.

News is just gonna news. There's not an agenda to scare people away. Can't speak for clickbait bloggers though.

Siren's Curse downtime is about 13%, which is the 4th best in the entire park. I am also not clear if weather is a part of that calculation (I'd bet it is).

 

[lazyboy97o]

Am I just asking questions???…. Were people evacuated off this coaster? If the answer is yes I would want to know… as someone who has a crippling fear of heights in certain situations…. But can do some coasters I would want to know…. I would never ride this…. I am not telling others not to… To show it is not just exclusive to certain parks… I also would not ride Everest either for the same reasons… and I do know Disney is as cautious with safety issues as they come

Edit: to give an example of a coaster I have done…. Hulk at Universal and enjoyed it… but if I heard they had an evac at those heights… Never again

Yes, you are clearly “just asking questions” because if you really wanted actual information it is out there. Instead you praise sensationalism that validates your fears and avoidance.

The Incredible Hulk Coaster has been evacuated. Every roller coaster has been evacuated. Even simple bus bar dark rides like The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh have been evacuated. You’d know that if you really wanted actual information. Anyone claiming a ride has perfect reliability is a liar. Rides are machines. They have incredible safety records but they’re still imperfect like the humans who design and build them. Most ride shut downs, including those that result in an evacuation, are the result of the ride control systems being incredibly cautious. It would be like having a car (which is far more dangerous than a ride) that will not let you drive when it detects incorrect tire pressure. That’s not in these types of news stories because the purpose is the shock of the imagery, not actual information on ride system issues and safety.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Sometimes it's simply to inform the public of troublesome issues, and to help make expectations realistic.
Lightning Rod comes to mind at my local park, Dollywood. Opened with a launch hill but unfortunately had lots of downtime. It wasn't necessarily causing evacs all the time, but was closed frequently causing disappointment. My local news station reported on this. Not showing people evacuating, just saying this new ride may or may not be available when you visit the park. Set expectations accordingly.

Just a few weeks ago, same local news was praising Dollywood heavily when the park won a big Trip Advisor award as best in the US.

News is just gonna news. There's not an agenda to scare people away. Can't speak for clickbait bloggers though.

Lightning Rod is a bit different in that it actually had extended downtime and months of closure. That’s a lot different than a ride being down for a few hours or even a day. That’s just normal operations. But nobody’s going to send the helicopter out to get photos of Woodstock Express being evacuated.

 

[Baloo124]

I am also not clear if weather is a part of that calculation (I'd bet it is).

Makes sense that could factor in during summertime with pop-up showers. Though I wonder whether or not that really counts as a ride "issue".
Speaking of, Wild Eagle flying coaster here at my park has been down in the past for the reason of bees or wasps swarming near the track.

 

[Baloo124]

But nobody’s going to send the helicopter out to get photos of Woodstock Express being evacuated.

I can picture this as a story from The Onion. Lol

Come to think of it, anyone familiar with SFOG's troublesome situation with the Kid Flash coaster will shudder at the thought of another kiddie coaster being put in anytime soon. That thing lasted, what, a week?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Speaking of, Wild Eagle flying coaster here at my park has been down in the past for the reason of bees or wasps swarming near the track.

They’ve also just had signs telling people to be calm and sit still on the lift hill. Plus side, nobody was interest in riding; down side, bees!

Hagrid’s Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure also closed for a few days early on in its run due to protected bees that had to be relocated.

 

[DKampy]

Yes, you are clearly “just asking questions” because if you really wanted actual information it is out there. Instead you praise sensationalism that validates your fears and avoidance.

The Incredible Hulk Coaster has been evacuated. Every roller coaster has been evacuated. Even simple bus bar dark rides like The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh have been evacuated. You’d know that if you really wanted actual information. Anyone claiming a ride has perfect reliability is a liar. Rides are machines. They have incredible safety records but they’re still imperfect like the humans who design and build them. Most ride shut downs, including those that result in an evacuation, are the result of the ride control systems being incredibly cautious. It would be like having a car (which is far more dangerous than a ride) that will not let you drive when it detects incorrect tire pressure. That’s not in these types of news stories because the purpose is the shock of the imagery, not actual information on ride system issues and safety.

I am not praising anyone for glorifyiing anything… nor do I think they are…. I don’t recall any reports of the ride being a death trap or anything

Personally yes I do look for the information… if I happen to be going to the park in question…, almost to the point of obsession knowing how I am with heights in certain situations…. Including checking the evac procedures and how many recently….then weigh the odds…. Which is why I won’t do Everest right now…. But not everybody is as internet savvy As you or I.., so yes if a new ride is evacuated that many times I have no problem with the reports