Cast Member Pay & Labor Laws

[Animaniac93-98]

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It’s funny how there are so many people who love to spend large sums of money at Walt Disney World but absolutely hate the idea of that money going to people at Walt Disney World, preferring it to go to people elsewhere many of whom think they’re idiots for wasting money at a place like Walt Disney World.

You have to remember who makes up a large % of Disney's audience.

I'll be polite and say they are individuals who have money and can't wrap their heads around why others don't.

They also have worldviews that are simple enough to fit on a bumper sticker.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I haven’t said anything close to an attraction attendant being able to afford a three bedroom house and a new car. I find the definition of a living wage to be nebulous and think legislating it means dictating all sorts of value judgements.

When people hear "living wage" they think of their living situation.

If they have 2 houses and a boat, than that's their idea of "living" (and perish the thought of having to do with anything less) and that's why they get so uptight about the idea of someone at Wal-Mart living large with a different job than they have, when that employee's needs and wants may be completely different.

 

[eliza61nyc]

and let's ask ourselves why? because they can't find workers. that's how it works. not get the job then whine that you can't make enough to live on.
So if a worker wants a job with livable wages do what the fine youngins at mcdonalds did and find another job.

So WDW cm's have negotiated a new contract for 15 bucks a hour which is about 28-29K a year, it's already higher than other employees in the area for the same work and yet they still say they can't "live". so basically they just want more money for no other reason then the company they work for is profitable. that's what it looks like and according to some because I can afford to go, I shouldn't complain if I have to pay more (and let's face it cost ALWAYS travels downhill)

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

It also ignores the long standing trend across the board that wages have stagnated while prices have increased and profits have soared.

This I agree with. But that's driven by the market.

I find the definition of a living wage to be nebulous and think legislating it means dictating all sorts of value judgements.

This I also agree with

The general attitude towards lower wage employees has been that they are disposable garbage.

I agree to the extent that they are not "garbage". All employees are valuable. They are disposable though. And that is not a character judgement, nor is it a judgement on how well they perform their job. It is though a judgement on the type of job they have. There's nothing wrong with someone wanting to be a Jungle Cruise skipper. But if you're still a Jungle Cruise skipper 15 years later...don't be expecting a salary that is significantly higher than is being offered to a new employee. Higher because of tenure? Yes. But not significantly.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

so basically they just want more money for no other reason then the company they work for is profitable.

The individuals running the show are a significant reason why a given company is profitable.

The higher ups are not the ones standing in the parks every day or keeping the resorts clean and open.

 

[eliza61nyc]

When people hear "living wage" they think of their living situation.

If they have 2 houses and a boat, than that's their idea of "living" (and perish the thought of having to do with anything less) and that's why they get so uptight about the idea of someone at Wal-Mart living large with a different job than they have, when that employee's needs and wants may be completely different.

I'll admit to that I think of my region of the world. so what is a good indicator of living wages in Orlando? I will say that I always think of my area. I don't have a problem with someone living large on a walmart salary. in fact I'd give them a big "you go girl! work it". I do have an issue with a walmart employee whining that it's the company's fault that they cannot afford an apartment and they should be paid that salary for no other reason then they showed up to scan cans.

So I'll make a suggestion, the same one I make to my kids. figure out how you envision your life and then figure out if the job you are in will give you that life. It's totally up to you not your employer to give you your standard of living

 

[eliza61nyc]

The individuals running the show are a significant reason why a given company is profitable.

The higher ups are not the ones standing in the parks every day or keeping the resorts clean and open.

b ut they are already paid more than the average for their position so they want the salary the higher ups get???

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I do have an issue with a walmart employee whining that it's the company's fault that they cannot afford an apartment and they should be paid that salary for no other reason then they showed up to scan cans.

All I can say is...yikes.

Just pray you never lose your job in end up having to work in such a situation.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

The individuals running the show are a significant reason why a given company is profitable.

Not "the individuals". They are just bodies filling a role. If "average Joe" who mans the register - leaves or is fired - "average John" steps into his place without a hiccup. If there is an employee that is a significant contributing factor to profitability - believe me, they are being compensated.

 

[eliza61nyc]

All I can say is...yikes.

Just pray you never lose your job in end up having to work in such a situation.

I just retired Animaniac but I will say it's given me a lot of thought on advising my young adult kids and nieces and nephew. The one thing I already impart on them is that they are active participants in their success, that no company or employer is going to give them the lifestyle the want.

Interestingly enough many of the restaurants here in Philadelphia are having severe worker shortages. During the lockdown many of the waitstaff smartly figured out that serving and washing dishes was a dead end, low paying job and put that shutdown time to good use.

Many went back to school, my neighbors kid got his CDL and is making a ridiculous amount of money because we have a driver shortage, Philadelphia used the stimulus money to give education grants to home healthcare workers, another low wage occupation. We had 700 women get nursing assistant jobs and Temple University is helping them to go to get their RN and BS in nursing.
They recognized that serving is not a lucrative career
Kudos to them

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I just retired Animaniac but I will say it's given me a lot of thought on advising my young adult kids and nieces and nephew. The one thing I already impart on them is that they are active participants in their success, that no company or employer is going to give them the lifestyle the want.

Interestingly enough many of the restaurants here in Philadelphia are having severe worker shortages. During the lockdown many of the waitstaff smartly figured out that was a dead end, low paying job and put that shutdown time to good use. Many went back to school, my neighbors kid got his CDL and is making a ridiculous amount of money because we have a driver shortage, Philadelphia used the sti

What they do with their money is also a determining factor in success and failure getting by. Believe me if you ask my kids what they would do with 100k - "putting it in the bank" would be the last response you would get.

 

[eliza61nyc]

What they do with their money is also a determining factor in success and failure getting by. Believe me if you ask my kids what they would do with 100k - "putting it in the bank" would be the last response you would get.

Remind me to tell you the story of minion #3 thinking he should buy an Audi A6 while pumping gas because...
"What if Beyonce drives by and sees me"
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["El Gran Magnifico"]

@eliza61nyc

Poor messaging on my part. Sometimes when you (me) type out things it doesn't exactly come out as intended

It's not that they would spend it. They know "the game" is rigged. Money will depreciate in a bank. So you invest it WISELY and get a greater return. So the value will grow.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

So either wages are tied to prices or they are not.

They should not. If a group of people fork out $200 apiece to go and watch LeBron James play basketball - it does not mean the hot dog concessioner deserves a $100k a year salary.

 

[eliza61nyc]

All I can say is...yikes.

Just pray you never lose your job in end up having to work in such a situation.

But I WAS in that situation ,. Go back over my post. I worked at Walmart, I have said over and over the number one reason I went to college was working a low wage job at Macy's. I knew immediately after my first paycheck that I could not survive on that salary

 

[Kamikaze]

Im originally from Ontario too. By the end of the year Disney pay at WDW will start at $15/hr for most roles, some roles like housekeeping are already $16/hr. I think part of the issue is that minimum wage isn’t meant to support a family. If you want a house, a partner, a car, and two kids, then being a popcorn vendor on Main Street probably isn’t going to pay the bills. If you want to take public transit and have an apartment with a roommate then you’d be ok. I don’t think it’s a pay rate or cost of living issue, it’s a having a job that doesn’t match your lifestyle issue. And seeing how hard of a time Disney is having hiring, I think a lot of people realized that. That’s why they rely so heavily on CPs and CRPs, to help fill out the lower ranks.

Stop repeating inane BS Republican talking points. This is FALSE.

Minimum Wage: Its Purpose, History, and $15 Wage Battle

The U.S. minimum wage remains at $7.25 per hour, although a majority of states have higher wages. Learn more about the history, purpose, and battle for a $15 minimum wage.

www.thebalance.com

Yes, The Minimum Wage Was Intended To Be A Living Wage

Contrary to right-wing talking points, the purpose of the minimum wage has always been to provide a decent livelihood.

www.labyrinthmag.org

It Was Always Supposed To Be A Living Wage

by Hanna Brooks Olsen The fight to raise the minimum wage is being waged across the country, and has been for years. As workers and activists in New York fight for $15, citizens in Seattle, San Francisco, and Los Angeles are already seeing increases in their paychecks. But all along the way, there a

www.thebillfold.com

minimum wage

www.law.cornell.edu

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Stop repeating inane BS Republican talking points. This is FALSE.

Minimum Wage: Its Purpose, History, and $15 Wage Battle

The U.S. minimum wage remains at $7.25 per hour, although a majority of states have higher wages. Learn more about the history, purpose, and battle for a $15 minimum wage.

www.thebalance.com

Yes, The Minimum Wage Was Intended To Be A Living Wage

Contrary to right-wing talking points, the purpose of the minimum wage has always been to provide a decent livelihood.

www.labyrinthmag.org

It Was Always Supposed To Be A Living Wage

by Hanna Brooks Olsen The fight to raise the minimum wage is being waged across the country, and has been for years. As workers and activists in New York fight for $15, citizens in Seattle, San Francisco, and Los Angeles are already seeing increases in their paychecks. But all along the way, there a

www.thebillfold.com

minimum wage

www.law.cornell.edu

I knew somebody would turn this political. I even wagered from which side it would come. Well done.

It's not a political conversation. We're on a Disney fan forum. Your points would be better served on a Fox or CNN discussion board.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Stop repeating inane BS Republican talking points. This is FALSE.

Minimum Wage: Its Purpose, History, and $15 Wage Battle

The U.S. minimum wage remains at $7.25 per hour, although a majority of states have higher wages. Learn more about the history, purpose, and battle for a $15 minimum wage.

www.thebalance.com

Yes, The Minimum Wage Was Intended To Be A Living Wage

Contrary to right-wing talking points, the purpose of the minimum wage has always been to provide a decent livelihood.

www.labyrinthmag.org

It Was Always Supposed To Be A Living Wage

by Hanna Brooks Olsen The fight to raise the minimum wage is being waged across the country, and has been for years. As workers and activists in New York fight for $15, citizens in Seattle, San Francisco, and Los Angeles are already seeing increases in their paychecks. But all along the way, there a

www.thebillfold.com

minimum wage

www.law.cornell.edu

My first job with Disney was working at a popcorn cart. I know very well if I want a house and kids working at a popcorn cart is not going to support that. It supported me having an apartment with 4 roommates, medical insurance, taking public transit, and groceries. Eventually I wanted more money to do more travelling so I applied for coordinator. Then I wanted to live somewhere else and applied to be a manager etc etc. Being a popcorn vendor supported a certain lifestyle, when I wanted a different lifestyle I had to find a job to support it. Also I’m not republican, this isn’t political. I’m not even American to be honest, I’m from the great socialist land of Canada where I had no problem paying high taxes for the common good of everyone.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

My first job with Disney was working at a popcorn cart. I know very well if I want a house and kids working at a popcorn cart is not going to support that. It supported me having an apartment with 4 roommates, medical insurance, taking public transit, and groceries. Eventually I wanted more money to do more travelling so I applied for coordinator. Then I wanted to live somewhere else and applied to be a manager etc etc. Being a popcorn vendor supported a certain lifestyle, when I wanted a different lifestyle I had to find a job to support it. Also I’m not republican, this isn’t political. I’m not even American to be honest, I’m from the great socialist land of Canada where I had no problem paying high taxes for the common good of everyone.

My DW is a Canuck. Kitchener. Very simplified tax system. 1 question along with an instruction. "How much did you make?" Followed by "Send it all in".