MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Disgruntled Walt]

I get that. Probably how I felt about losing our TOT. Certainly better than no POTC. Maybe I’m off but I feel like it would be easier getting more people on board replacing the classic but cliff notes version of POTC for a modern Shanghai like POTC than it would be losing the ROA for a Cars ride. The ROA impacts an entire quadrant of the park. POTC is contained in a show building and at least you’d still have the superior and original version in Anaheim.

I could live with that, provided DL's stays forever.

 

[flynnibus]

Still popular though - it is my son's favorite attraction at all of WDW, one we usually wind up doing multiple times each trip

Not saying that doesn't mean it shouldn't be replaced or at least updated/changed but there is a segment of the guests that do still like it

I'm sure he likes a random hotel pool too - that doesn't mean it's up to snuff for what should be in the park.

The attraction is a mockery of what a driving setup should be and a shadow of itself.

 

[Dranth]

Please don't mention Jungle Cruise!!!!!!! Don't give them any ideas !!!!!!!

Too late, that is where Moana is going.

 

[Andrew C]

Too late, that is where Moana is going.

Make way! Make way!

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I think the prettiest fantasyland is in Paris with simple streams and hedges.

Which also perfectly suits Euro Disneyland, where Chateaus and Imperial Estates are often surrounded by elaborate, manicured gardens with statuary, pools and so forth.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

it's not "just a bad copy" but it isn't the original with the historical significance that contains

The Magic Kingdom is over 50 years old. Older than any Disney theme park besides the original Disneyland.

It's where certain iconic attractions like Space Mountain got their start, and where WED art directors like Marc Davis and Claude Coats got to redesign key Disneyland attractions (like Jungle Cruise) from the ground up.

Disney and its fans need to break away from this mindset that the park has no history worth acknowledging or respecting.

 

[WaltWiz1901]

I'm sure he likes a random hotel pool too - that doesn't mean it's up to snuff for what should be in the park.

The attraction is a mockery of what a driving setup should be and a shadow of itself.

substitute either "...think it's their favorite ride" or "...love it just the way it is" for "...are excited about it" and you've got my almost exact thought

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

substitute either "...think it's their favorite ride" or "...love it just the way it is" for "...are excited about it" and you've got my almost exact thought

I manage to think both of these "points' are ridiculous... like yeah of course I don't care if its an attraction I don't like or use going away and will when my favorite attraction goes away? Why should I have to be upset about ROA? I went there, didn't really like it, and now want to see the Cars stuff instead. Simple as that.

And I think it's 100% reasonable for Disney to replace something kids don't like in a family theme park with something that families and kids will like overall. I guess its just that new gen brain talking though so who knows?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Which also perfectly suits Euro Disneyland, where Chateaus and Imperial Estates are often surrounded by elaborate, manicured gardens with statuary, pools and so forth.

Another great example of the use of vistas. So much of contemporary theme park design is too obsessed with blocking your views. It’s keeping you up close so you can’t see things, which of course is what the once open Frontierland will now become.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Will Columbia Harbor House make any sense when it's not next to a Harbor or any true nautical space?

Would Tiana's Bayou Adventure look better without the context of the riverboat and surrounding southern wilderness?

The water isn't just for views, it informs the design choices of the buildings along it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Will Columbia Harbor House make any sense when it's not next to a Harbor or any true nautical space?

It’s not “Disney” so it doesn’t make sense now. Mater’s Pancake House would be a better use of the space. Or just closing it altogether to optimize revenue at other dining locations.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Mater’s Pancake House

I just imagined a blogpost from the future advertising cans of "oil" (maple syrup) to purchase when you wrote this.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Will Columbia Harbor House make any sense when it's not next to a Harbor or any true nautical space?

Would Tiana's Bayou Adventure look better without the context of the riverboat and surrounding southern wilderness?

The water isn't just for views, it informs the design choices of the buildings along it.

Honestly, a pretty easy thing to change. Even a name change would be fine as many seafood restaraunts aren't directly on the harbor even in NE

 

[lazyboy97o]

Honestly, a pretty easy thing to change. Even a name change would be fine as many seafood restaraunts aren't directly on the harbor even in NE

Only if you see no difference between a duck and a decorated shed.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Honestly, a pretty easy thing to change. Even a name change would be fine as many seafood restaraunts aren't directly on the harbor even in NE

Except CHH isn't Red Lobster. It's not supposed to be just a quirky New England facsimile in a suburban parking lot.

Like the Tavern elsewhere in Liberty Square, it coexists with other natural and built structures to form a larger narrative

You could build an exact replica of Three Broomsticks in a mall, but it would not be the same divorced from the WWoHP.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I was catching up on this thread this morning, and whoever said (paraphrasing) the lack of areas like what’s being lost at MK coupled with the overuse of headliner attractions is exactly what makes DHS problematic was bang on.

MK has attractions and areas that most days of the year don’t require planning or waiting to enjoy, Epcot & AK both have large areas of the park that are not attraction focused that can be enjoyed without planning and/or waiting, DHS is really lacking in both parts of the park that encourage walking and taking in the environment and attractions that don’t require planning/waiting. I am concerned what the end result is going to be of them (albeit slowly) converting ‘under utilized’ areas of the parks into E tickets.

That was me.

As much as I like ToT better than any ride at EPCOT, DHS doesn't have anything like Voices of Liberty, the Seas aquariums, the galleries in Japan, Mexico and Norway, Germany's rail garden, Journey of Water, or other attractive spaces to leisurely explore on your own. It could also really use a higher capacity boat ride like LwtL or Gran Fiesta Tour.

World Showcase only has 3/4 rides, but think about how many hours and evenings people spend there.

 

[Raineman]

But we're not talking about the parks as purely consumers. We're talking about the parks as part of how they are designed, operated, and will function as a business in the future as well.

If you only want to focus on being a consumer - yes, none of this is within your field of view.. just the results of it. If you are talking about park design and operations -- very much part of the discussion.

I have no issue with that type of discussion, and it should be included as a reason why Disney wants to make this change and why it would make sense from Disney's perspective. But it seems that there is a mindset by some members here, who are not employed by Disney or have any professional affiliation with Disney and no stake in any of the design & operational decisions made by Disney, that they want this change to happen, almost as if their own experiences in the park would be enhanced by ripping out TSI/ROA and slapping Cars Land on top of it instead of building it on an empty plot of land that would not include removing any current attraction/area/land. That is a very puzzling thing to me.

 

[Brer Oswald]

So.... the ride is on a track? And it's basically gonna be Speedway with dirt?

If we’re lucky, we might get three Speedways in the Magic Kingdom! Yay!

 

[Agent H]

If we’re lucky, we might get three Speedways in the Magic Kingdom! Yay!

What would the third one be?

 

[Brer Oswald]

What would the third one be?

The smaller cars attraction.