MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

donaldtoo

donaldtoo

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SoFloMagic said:
Local. I pay about the equivalent of one night at the grand Floridan for my pass for the year. I go to MK a couple times a year. It's such a pain to get to and has far too many tourists. Spend way more time in the other three, which I love.

Going to flower and garden after work for dinner is wonderful.
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So, wonderfully tolerable, other than those pesky “tourists”…?!?!?! 🤔
You do realize your WDW fun wouldn’t even exist without us pesky “tourists” money, correct…?!?!?! :cyclops:
 
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Advisable Joseph

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lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Advisable Joseph said:
No, that's the inlet to the north I mentioned:



The "new pond" comment is in the south, meaning a different route.
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An inlet isn’t a destination. It is still ultimately connecting to the Regional Stormwater Facility that is replacing the lost capacity of the Rivers of America.

It looks like an errant note that is still technically correct but doesn’t align with all of the other notes on that sheet and other sheets. Few bother to set up AutoCAD to use linked and synchronized notes. There is nothing in the actual drawings showing a pond in the Rivers of America area.

That said, Disney could file a revision to their permit application. There have been cases where, due to the way the process works, the parks (Disney, Universal and SeaWorld) have submitted permit documents that are already out of date and not the current design direction at the time of the submission. It’s a messy process that requires extra diligence to manage and it’s definitely possible that an errant note ended up on the wrong drawing. That’s several levels of “ifs” that are not currently supported by other available information.
 
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fgmnt

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TrainsOfDisney said:
I haven’t been in a few years but they used to have a boat ride and a steam train.
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They have those still. Skyride as well but i think they took a long time to spin that back up post-covid. The three water rides are pretty mid level thrills imo, flying machine, scrambler, battering ram, teacups, are also pretty mid level thrills, and they have shows. I think the park really misses not having the simulator in ireland running anymore, the major downgrade of attraction in the darkastle building, and the dwindling roster of shows, but it’s still the best overall regional park east of the Mississippi.
 
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JMcMahonEsq

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Why do you keep saying this? Both the riverboat and the island get decent daily numbers. I’m not sure what you’re fighting for and why.
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I am not really fighting for anything, as nothing that's posted here has any real world tangible effect. Its just a bunch of people talking to other people who have no real ability to change or do anything. Can be fun, and gives you something to do between meetings or while on the john, but its not for fighting for any type of position/change. Hell a portion of the people here post about how they haven't gone to WDW in x number of years and aren't going back. How those people have such uninteresting and/or useless lives that they can waste time discussion someplace they don't go to and have no plans to go to is beyond me. If/when I am actually fighting for something, you go through shareholder paths, or speaking to people who matter from a business/government impact perspective.

As to decent numbers, focusing strictly on TSI, where to you get that? Do you honestly think the utilization of TSI is anywhere near what other rides/attractions gets on a square foot basis? When have you ever seen a line for people waiting to get to the island, other than because it takes awhile for the raft to to load/offload people. There is a reason that WDW has never had TSI as part of FP, FP+, Genie+ ect., and its because the demand simply isn't there. People aren't using the space, and there is no question that if something new is put there, more people are going to be utilzing the area.

On a Macro big picture level, I am arguing the position that WDW is a theme park/vacation destination, not a museum or time capsule. Time changes everything, opinions, trends, wants/needs, ect. There shouldn't be this idea that nothing withing the park should be changed, or that the park should just expand constantly every year, like cancer, growing and growing without looking at make changes for things that have lived their life and can/should be changed to reflect modern consumer/societal wants.
 
Raineman

Raineman

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JMcMahonEsq said:
I am not really fighting for anything, as nothing that's posted here has any real world tangible effect. Its just a bunch of people talking to other people who have no real ability to change or do anything. Can be fun, and gives you something to do between meetings or while on the john, but its not for fighting for any type of position/change. Hell a portion of the people here post about how they haven't gone to WDW in x number of years and aren't going back. How those people have such uninteresting and/or useless lives that they can waste time discussion someplace they don't go to and have no plans to go to is beyond me. If/when I am actually fighting for something, you go through shareholder paths, or speaking to people who matter from a business/government impact perspective.

As to decent numbers, focusing strictly on TSI, where to you get that? Do you honestly think the utilization of TSI is anywhere near what other rides/attractions gets on a square foot basis? When have you ever seen a line for people waiting to get to the island, other than because it takes awhile for the raft to to load/offload people. There is a reason that WDW has never had TSI as part of FP, FP+, Genie+ ect., and its because the demand simply isn't there. People aren't using the space, and there is no question that if something new is put there, more people are going to be utilzing the area.

On a Macro big picture level, I am arguing the position that WDW is a theme park/vacation destination, not a museum or time capsule. Time changes everything, opinions, trends, wants/needs, ect. There shouldn't be this idea that nothing withing the park should be changed, or that the park should just expand constantly every year, like cancer, growing and growing without looking at make changes for things that have lived their life and can/should be changed to reflect modern consumer/societal wants.
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I need to ask you a question, because I am genuinely curious: the points you are trying to make about this situation in this thread-are you simply speaking as to why you think it makes sense for Disney, as a corporation and shareholders, or are you coming from the angle that you want these changes and that it's best for the guest experience? Many of the points that you and some other people here are making sound like they are coming straight from corporate. I'm sure the vast majority of park guests don't care about "efficient use of space" or "maximizing ROI" or anything like that. The majority of people that want to see Cars Land happen and are looking forward to experiencing it most likely really don't care where it is located, they just want to have it in the parks; it's the people coming from your viewpoint that are adamant that scrapping ROA/TSI and making that space available is the best option for Cars Land.
 
Jrb1979

Jrb1979

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Brer Panther said:
I suppose somebody could claim "but that's what Lightning Lane is for!" - but if every other person is using Lightning Lane, won't that just result in the Lightning Lane lines being long too?

And clearly we are all dumb hicks who hate anything that isn't a big E-Ticket based on an IP. Hey, why don't we fill in the moat around the castle and put a Tangled ride there? And all that space taken up by the water in Animal Kingdom would be a GREAT space for a roller coaster based on Wish...

Word. My family went to Busch Gardens Williamsburg in 2023. Everything there falls into one of three categories:

1) A huge, super-intense roller coaster
2) A thrill ride
3) A kiddy ride with some sort of height/weight requirement

I don't like huge, super-intense roller coasters, so I wound up only going on two rides: a Himalaya-esque ride and a small roller coaster in the Sesame Street section. Huzzah.

Theme parks need attractions that EVERYONE can enjoy. Dark rides, boat rides, that sort of thing.

The space once occupied by Stitch's Great Escape isn't being used but they're still just letting THAT sit there empty.
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It's a shame cause Busch Gardens Williamsburg is one of the best theme parks in the country. Right up there with Dollywood
 
Dranth

Dranth

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EricsBiscuit said:
Hearing arguments about how poor of a decision it was to build the RoA and TSI is a slap in the face to Walt, Roy, and WED. WDW has been coasting on the foundation WED built for the last 20+ years. The more this new crop of “Imagineers” rip out what WED built, the weaker the foundation of WDW is.
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Who said it was a poor decision?
 

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