Captain America 4

[Phroobar]

What is sad is... even if the Captain Falcon movie does get 1 billion dollars, it won't be enough.

Because of how high the budget is (350 million +). You add in the 150 million in marketing they've done and that's 500 million altogether. Then they have to split the profits with the theaters. So they have to get over 1 billion dollars to get any profits at all.

It's already been recently re-established to be $180 million.

 

[Phroobar]

There's no way it actually costs that much. Unfortunately we may never know the real costs because it didn't film in the U.K.

‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Tracking for Promising $90M-Plus U.S. Box Office Debut

The Marvel sequel sees Anthony Mackie take over duties as the marquee superhero, which opens over Presidents Day weekend.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

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The Hollywood Reporter recently reported that Captain America: Brave New World had a budget of $180 million. This is well below many recent Marvel movies and could be considered one of the cheapest since at least Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, which reportedly cost between $150 to $200 million. While it is still more expensive than Captain America: The First Avenger ($140 million) and Captain America: The Winter Soldier ($175 million), it is still below the budget for Captain America: Civil War ($250 million). This seemingly puts to bed last year's rumor that Captain America: Brave New World would have a budget of $350 million due to reshoots.

 

[Agent H]

I wonder what Disney will do this time around...

Paid Reviewers or Audience Bots???

Audience bots? What? Now you are setting yourself up so if someone actually likes the movie they are just a “audience bot” aren’t you?

 

[lazyboy97o]

It's already been recently re-established to be $180 million.

This isn’t an information issue.

 

[Disney Irish]

Audience bots? What? Now you are setting yourself up so if someone actually likes the movie they are just a “audience bot” aren’t you?

Yep the poster has used the same excuse before, that somehow Disney pays for audience reviews (and its the best kept secret in Hollywood as no one knows about it, and it seems to only be Disney that does it and not other studios) because no one could actually like anything that they don't like especially in the MCU. So according to them all those 80-90s audience scores on RT for MCU content are all fake.

 

[Chi84]

I’m late to the Mackie party but I don’t think it’s 1% as controversial as Zegler comments… I also don’t think it’s going to have 1% of the affect on Captain 4s box office that Zeglers comments are going to have on Snow Whites box office.

Mackies gaffe was blown out of proportion for a couple days but died down just as quickly because people ultimately knew what he meant and knew he just worded his thoughts poorly… in the end they’re thoughts most people agree with though, Captain America is about doing the right thing, and that’s not a quality limited only to America.

Zeglers comments are staying front and center in the “rage” networks because people also ultimately know what she meant and they outright disagree with her.

Those shows can only work with what they’re given, Mackie phrased something poorly but people knew what he meant and that’s easy to overlook, Zegler said exactly what she believes and that’s much harder to overlook… which also keeps her comments relevant and in the news.

I haven’t seen anything in the news about Zegler for quite some time. What comments are you talking about?

There’s a reason people jumped to defend Mackie and not Zegler but it’s not the one you gave.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Captain Falcon

And you accuse others of having an agenda...

 

[erasure fan1]

I haven’t seen anything in the news about Zegler for quite some time. What comments are you talking about?

The election comments are really the last thing anyone has really seen. I'm guessing she's just in lockdown mode. Keep a low profile, don't draw attention to yourself and let things hopefully blow over. I'm betting when the movie is in full promo tour mode we will see articles talking about her statements and will they hurt the film...

 

[Chi84]

The election comments are really the last thing anyone has really seen. I'm guessing she's just in lockdown mode. Keep a low profile, don't draw attention to yourself and let things hopefully blow over. I'm betting when the movie is in full promo tour mode we will see articles talking about her statements and will they hurt the film...

This isn’t the right thread but her comments about the film were innocuous and blown out of proportion just like Mackie’s.

 

[Disney Irish]

The election comments are really the last thing anyone has really seen. I'm guessing she's just in lockdown mode. Keep a low profile, don't draw attention to yourself and let things hopefully blow over. I'm betting when the movie is in full promo tour mode we will see articles talking about her statements and will they hurt the film...

Again this isn’t the thread for it, but she is on Broadway in Romeo and Juliet until the 16th and is constantly on social media. So no she isn’t in lockdown mode.

In the end I think most people (especially outside the US) aren’t going to pay attention to any comments, especially not ones made 1-2 years ago. So just like Mackie’s comments, it’ll end up being nothing but blown out of proportion if brought up again.

 

[erasure fan1]

This isn’t the right thread but her comments about the film were innocuous and blown out of proportion just like Mackie’s.

It really doesn't matter what anyone thinks, outrageous or innocuous. There's a great chance once promotion of the film hits full swing, it's making headlines. Especially after the election stuff. The media loves controversy, simple as that.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I haven’t seen anything in the news about Zegler for quite some time. What comments are you talking about?

There’s a reason people jumped to defend Mackie and not Zegler but it’s not the one you gave.

I’ve been watching and reading 2025 box office predictions (for the box office thread) and every article/show has mentioned how the animosity towards Zegler will impact the box office. It may not be headline news but when all the analysts are saying her comments are going to hurt the box office I tend to believe them.

Curious what that reason is, because he’s black? because he’s a man? because people can easily overlook a gaffe? because he’s likable?

 

[Chi84]

I’ve been watching and reading 2025 box office predictions (for the box office thread) and every article/show has mentioned how the animosity towards Zegler will impact the box office. It may not be headline news but when all the analysts are saying her comments are going to hurt the box office I tend to believe them.

Curious what that reason is, because he’s black? because he’s a man? because people can easily overlook a gaffe? because he’s likable?

Gina Carano.

 

[Disney Irish]

I’ve been watching and reading 2025 box office predictions (for the box office thread) and every article/show has mentioned how the animosity towards Zegler will impact the box office. It may not be headline news but when all the analysts are saying her comments are going to hurt the box office I tend to believe them.

Curious what that reason is, because he’s black? because he’s a man? because people can easily overlook a gaffe? because he’s likable?

I think both sets of comments are being overblown and it really is only going to affect people that weren't going to go watch either movie to begin with. So how much it'll actually "affect" either movies box office remains to be seen, and likely won't be truly known but I'm sure both sides will make it seem like it is.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Curious what that reason is, because he’s black? because he’s a man? because people can easily overlook a gaffe? because he’s likable?

How about some people understand what he meant and don't consider it a "gaffe"?

A lot of people who get mad at things like this do so because they're told to by people who make a living by riling people up with the outrage of the day, usually manufactured.

 

[Disney Irish]

Disney is having their paid media lie again. I guess this is what they feel they have to do now. To try and save face. They have the Hollywood Reporter, Variety and Deadline (owned by the same company) lie for 2 years and hope people just forget about it. Below is just the budget for their films without the 100 to 150 in advertisements.

Captain Falcon - 180 million (actual budget TBD, rumored to be 350 million)
Dr Strange 2 - 200 million (actual budget - 415 million)
Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania- 200 million (actual budget - 330 million)
The Marvels - 200 million (actual budget - 374 million)

I think you need to be very careful when you use the term "lie". Just because budget actuals get revised later does not mean that Disney "forced" or "paid" any media to "lie". The budgets reported when the movie releases are typically estimates by the various media outlets that report it, sometimes its based on actual financial reports such as when a movie is filmed in the UK, sometimes its estimated based on reporting from insider sources or other means for getting estimates. But there is no one being "paid" to report a false number, that is just a conspiracy theory you've made up.

Movie budgets have been a very close guarded secret in Hollywood going back to the very beginning days. Disney is hardly the first and certainly not the only studio to not provide complete transparency with their budgets. So if Disney is "lying" then so is every other studio on the planet, meaning that recent movies like Sonic 3 and others likely costed way more than what was reported by media outlets. Which puts into question then the profitability of any movie you regard as a "huge success", likely putting many in the loss column then.

 

[Phroobar]

Disney is having their paid media lie again. I guess this is what they feel they have to do now. To try and save face. They have the Hollywood Reporter, Variety and Deadline (owned by the same company) lie for 2 years and hope people just forget about it. Below is just the budget for their films without the 100 to 150 in advertisements.

Captain Falcon - 180 million (actual budget TBD, rumored to be 350 million)
Dr Strange 2 - 200 million (actual budget - 415 million)
Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania - 200 million (actual budget - 330 million)
The Marvels - 200 million (actual budget - 374 million)

So how do you know what it really is? Do you have a spreadsheet from Disney?

 

[erasure fan1]

and is constantly on social media. So no she isn’t in lockdown mode.

Now I'm not hip to all the socials like you young folks, but she doesn't seem to be terribly active. Instagram, X, she's not on tik tok or Facebook as far as I can see. Some basic posts with pics...of course I'm not on all of them so I can't be certain for all of them. When I say lockdown, that doesn't mean she's in a basement locked up someplace. From what I've seen, she's doing her thing on Broadway, not really making headlines. The last interview I read was a whole lot of nothing really. And that's not a bad thing in my eyes. Mackies situation is significantly different than Zegler just because of the political stuff. So it's smart of her to stay out of the weeds for while.

 

[Disney Irish]

Now I'm not hip to all the socials like you young folks, but she doesn't seem to be terribly active. Instagram, X, she's not on tik tok or Facebook as far as I can see. Some basic posts with pics...of course I'm not on all of them so I can't be certain for all of them. When I say lockdown, that doesn't mean she's in a basement locked up someplace. From what I've seen, she's doing her thing on Broadway, not really making headlines. The last interview I read was a whole lot of nothing really. And that's not a bad thing in my eyes. Mackies situation is significantly different than Zegler just because of the political stuff. So it's smart of her to stay out of the weeds for while.

Lol, I don't want to guess your age, but lets just say I'm probably right around your same age based on the way you post and the references you've made over the years. I just happen to be on social media.

As far as her social media presence, she is very active, primarily using Instagram Reels for posts (as the young people do) rather than actual "posts" with some posts on X for promotional purposes. So she is post several times a day via Reels, if not more.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

How about some people understand what he meant and don't consider it a "gaffe"?

A lot of people who get mad at things like this do so because they're told to by people who make a living by riling people up with the outrage of the day, usually manufactured.

That’s why my previous comment said exactly the same thing… that it’s blown over so quickly because people know what he meant, most agree with him, and realize he just worded his comment poorly.