Can I purchase DVC points for my trip?

Homer fan

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Hi Everyone,
I am heading down to WDW in December '14. We have a large group going, so I'm trying to get ahead of the game and looking into hotel options. My wife read somewhere that you can purchase someone's DVC points for your trip. The site she looked at was $14/pt, so to stay at the beach club, the week before Xmas was only $150/night...is this legit? And if so, is there a catch?
 

Minthorne

Well-Known Member
Hi Everyone,
I am heading down to WDW in December '14. We have a large group going, so I'm trying to get ahead of the game and looking into hotel options. My wife read somewhere that you can purchase someone's DVC points for your trip. The site she looked at was $14/pt, so to stay at the beach club, the week before Xmas was only $150/night...is this legit? And if so, is there a catch?

It is legit. I have used www.dvcrentals.com with no problems. The catches are:

1. You have to hope you can get the rental at 11 months out because there isn't always an owner at the resort you want that is renting points.

2 you have to pay the full cost when you book and there are no cancellations or refunds.

3. The villas don't include regular housekeeping.

4. Coordination DME and DDP can be a hassle since the DVC member has to. Book them for you.

But the savings is worth it IMO.
 

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
You are fairly close to the concept. You can rent points from a member. Most broker sites will charge $13-14 per point, but you may be able to rent directly from a member for $10 or less a point. The broker sites attempt to provide recourse, through the contracts they have the parties sign, but there is a chance the owner takes the money and runs. The 2014 points chart for Beach Club Villas indicates 15 points for midweek, and 16 for weekend for Dec 15-23, for a total of 107 for the week, in a studio. So it would be $210ish per weeknight, or $1,500 for the week. If you want a 1br or 2 br those are 197 and 271 points respectively for that week. Other DVC properties are going to be more or less points.
 

GeoDonJac34

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I used dvcrequest for our trip last year. We rented a studio at SS and ended up getting our third choice. We went during food and wine and the Boardwalk hotels were not an option. They charged 13$ a point. Everything went very well.
 

dannyboyindc

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If you live in the US, renting points is by far the least expensive option for a deluxe resort in my opinion...unless you get the DEAL OF THE CENTURY from Disney. Apparently people out of the country sometimes get said deals. We're renting a studio villa at Jambo House, Savannah View, for 10 nights, at $10.50 a point. It came out to less than a room at PORS WITH the room discount promotion. Only difference between regular rooms and DVC rooms at AKL is DVC rooms have a sofa and one bed (which we prefer since there's only two of us), and of course no daily Mousekeeping.
 

minnielaw

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We also used www.dvcrequest.com to rent points at Boardwalk Villas last October. We were very pleased and had no issues.

Like @Minthorne outlined, there are a few downsides/differences between points rental Ana conventional resort reservation.

1. Pre-planning: In order to rent DVC points, they recommend making your reservation at 12 months out. I booked in November 2011 for my October 2012 trip and did NOT get my first choice resort (AKL). At DVC Request you had to pay a non-refundable $90 fee for them to search for the room. If you booked the room, the money was credited toward your balance but if you did not book, you lost the $. Not a big deal if you are flexible on where you stay....see number 2.

2. You need to be flexible with where you end up staying: At DVC Request you have to (or maybe are just encouraged to) list second and third choice resorts. There are a much more limited quantity of DVC rooms than regular resort rooms and DVC resorts can completely book up months in advance. If you have your heart set on a certain resort and are traveling in December 2013, the odds are NOT in your favor for booking a room at Beach Club. But hey, Disney magic happens everyday and you may get lucky!

3. Once you book the points, you cannot cancel or move the date: I learned this the hard way when I booked a year in advance and before the 2012 school calendar was approved. Our Fall Break was moved from its customary first week in October; the week I had booked at WDW. My boys had a two week Fall Break that year!

4. DVC rooms are not identical to the regular resort rooms: DVC studio rooms have only bed and a sofa bed. A one bedroom has a dedicated bedroom and a sofa bed in the living room. Be sure to check out pictures of the DVC rooms before you book. Their decor may not be identical to the regular resort rooms either. The Boardwalk Villas rooms had very outdated and kinda shabby decor. It was fine with me because I knew ahead go time what the room looked like. But if you arrive thinking your room should look like a regular Boardwalk Inn room, you may be disappointed.

5. No or limited housekeeping at DVC resorts: This may or may not be a big deal to you, but you need to be aware. It wasn't a deal-killer for me, but it was kind of a bummer to come back late at night to the same messy room that you left hours before. On day 7 (I think), they did clean our room and change the sheets. Stays less than 7 or 8 days do NOT get housekeeping.

6. You cannot take advantage of Free Dining or other discounts: Probably not a big deal for you because I am pretty sure they don't offer Free Dining in December. You CAN still book and pay for the Disney Dining Plan, but the DVC owner has to do it for you. I bought Disney gift cards for the amount of the DDP cost and emailed the codes to DVC Request who then sent them to the owner. Once we checked in at the resort, I visited the Concierge desk where they transferred my paper park tickets and DDP on to my KTTW card. I assume it will still work that way with the Magic Bands.

Even with all the "downsides", I would still rent DVC points again in a heartbeat! I could never have stayed at a Deluxe resort for a little over $100 per night and the location was PERFECT! We were treated just like DVC owners by the resort staff and had absolutely no difficulties with our reservation or stay.
 

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Just a few comments on the above post. The 12 month suggestion is for your benefit. DVC members can book at their home resort 11 months out, but others at 7 months out. So if DVC Rentals can find an owner who has the home resort booking advantage, it increases your odds of getting the room and dates you want. Rooms are definitely available with short notice, that is why most of the rental options will do discounted point that expire in a month or two. You just need to be flexible. Remember that a slow season for the rest of the resort, might actually be in high demand for DVC owners. For instance, in 2014 the first two weeks of December cost the same amount of points at going in January or in September. So lots of DVC owners choose to travel then as they get more value for their points, and still get the full Christmas experience. Lots of DVC owners have flexible travel schedules, and will do their best to maxmize their investment.
Housekeeping if you are staying 7 nights or less, you get trash and towel service on day 4. If you are staying 8 nights or longer, you get full housekeeping on day 4, with trash and towel service on day 8. You can request them on different days if you choose, or pay extra for additional service.
 

Brickcity Pauly

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I'd be interested in doing his one day if I looked into it. I guess 3-4 months from now is a little too soon to be renting points? I'm not TOO flexible either.
 

Daddio

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We also used www.dvcrequest.com to rent points at Boardwalk Villas last October. We were very pleased and had no issues.

1. At DVC Request you had to pay a non-refundable $90 fee for them to search for the room. If you booked the room, the money was credited toward your balance but if you did not book, you lost the $. Not a big deal if you are flexible on where you stay....see number 2.

Just a quick clarification. As mentioned, a $98.00 deposit is placed towards the booking of the requested room/resort/dates.

If we can not find the requested room/resort/dates, the $98.00 is immediately refunded. Alternate availability is offered but is not mandatory.

If we do find the exact requested room/resort, and create a reservation in the guest's name, payment in full is due, minus the $98.00 already paid. If the guest decides not to honor the reservation that they requested, the $98.00 is absorbed as work performed. This is done to protect our member's valuable time.

Best,

~ David

PS. Minthorne, geodon34 and minnielaw, thank you for your business and your positive reviews.
 

luv

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You can and you save money. I never did it, because I have bad luck and just know I would be the person who pays the owner that, as another poster put it, takes the money and runs.

But it is a real thing.

The second these broker sites start guaranteeing a room or promise to immediately refund your money if you show up and there is no room, I'd recommend them to everyone. You really can save a lot that way. :)
 

Daddio

WDWMAGIC Sponsor
The second these broker sites start guaranteeing a room or promise to immediately refund your money if you show up and there is no room, I'd recommend them to everyone. You really can save a lot that way. :)

I've been guaranteeing this since starting my business 8 years ago.

~ David
 

luv

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I've been guaranteeing this since starting my business 8 years ago.

~ David
Really? If people show up and they have no room, you will immediately refund them the cost of the room? You put that in writing?

Because people always tell me that nobody guarantees it in writing and if the there is no room, they're just out the cash and these broker's say, "Well, we are just a go-between that you pay! We don't actually guarantee the room with our own money."

I've never understood why anyone pays a go-between when they could get a non-guaranteed room on their own, without paying someone to not guarantee it.

If you're standing behind it, that would make sense!
 

Daddio

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Really? If people show up and they have no room, you will immediately refund them the cost of the room? You put that in writing?

Yes, that is part of our contract with the guest, in writing. However, we would try to find suitable accommodations first, to avoid our guest standing in a resort at Disney with no room to occupy.

~ David
 

luv

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Yes, that is part of our contract with the guest, in writing. However, we would try to find suitable accommodations first, to avoid our guest standing in a resort at Disney with no room to occupy.

~ David
Sounds like an excellent deal. If you aren't lying.

Forgive me if I'm skeptical, lol. You're in a business tat has a bunch of shady people n it, so my natural inclination, until I see the signed contract, is skepticism. Of course, you promised it here and assuming you are who you say you are, that counts, too. :)

I'm going to wait until I hear people are receiving signed contracts that specifically state you'll refund the cost of the room. Nobody has done that yet.

But I will certainly tell people to look for it!!!! :)

Eta: I got kind of excited about this, thinking I might book at Boardwalk next fall, but there is no guarantee in the rental agreement on the site. It says a refund will be due, lol, but isn't clear about who will refund the money and when that will happen. Is it somewhere else?
 
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Daddio

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Sounds like an excellent deal. If you aren't lying.

Forgive me if I'm skeptical, lol. You're in a business tat has a bunch of shady people n it, so my natural inclination, until I see the signed contract, is skepticism. Of course, you promised it here and assuming you are who you say you are, that counts, too. :)

I'm going to wait until I hear people are receiving signed contracts that specifically state you'll refund the cost of the room. Nobody has done that yet.

But I will certainly tell people to look for it!!!! :)

Eta: I got kind of excited about this, thinking I might book at Boardwalk next fall, but there is no guarantee in the rental agreement on the site. It says a refund will be due, lol, but isn't clear about who will refund the money and when that will happen. Is it somewhere else?


Because of your deep skepticism, my best advise to you would be to book directly with Disney. There is no point in trying to save money at the expense of your peace of mind. Renting DVC points is not for everyone.

Take care,

~ David
 

Weather_Lady

Well-Known Member
Sounds like an excellent deal. If you aren't lying.

Forgive me if I'm skeptical, lol. You're in a business tat has a bunch of shady people n it, so my natural inclination, until I see the signed contract, is skepticism. Of course, you promised it here and assuming you are who you say you are, that counts, too. :)

I'm going to wait until I hear people are receiving signed contracts that specifically state you'll refund the cost of the room. Nobody has done that yet.

But I will certainly tell people to look for it!!!! :)

Eta: I got kind of excited about this, thinking I might book at Boardwalk next fall, but there is no guarantee in the rental agreement on the site. It says a refund will be due, lol, but isn't clear about who will refund the money and when that will happen. Is it somewhere else?

We contracted with David's five months ago. Our contract clearly states (my additions are the non-italicized words in brackets): "Should accommodations not be available on date of arrival due to an action or omission by the Member [i.e., the DVC member whose points we rented], including but not limited to negligence on the part of the Member and after communication with the Intermediary [David's], suitable comparable accommodations for the same dates cannot be secured by the Member, the Renter will be due a refund limited to the amount paid which is $[our total payment] US Dollars."

I'm an attorney, and although this clause is not the clearest one I've ever seen, it essentially says that if the Member cancels the reservation or makes a mistake which results in our reservation not being there when we arrive, and David's is notified but can't get them to make "suitable comparable accommodations for the same dates" for us, then we're entitled to a full refund of the amount we paid to David's. This clause, plus the vacation insurance we purchased to cover our costs in the event we need to cancel, puts me at ease. Of course, that doesn't guarantee that getting a refund (in the unlikely event that we had to seek one) will be instant or hassle-free, but that risk is present in any arrangement, even one made directly with Disney.
 
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luv

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I forwarded it to a lawyer who said it was poorly written. He recommended not getting involved. That was his exact words, "I recommend you do not get involved with this."
 

luv

Well-Known Member
Then you should follow his advice. And pay him handsomely. :D
I always follow his advice. He's pretty smart. But he has more money than he knows what to do with (seriously) and would be offended if I offered him money, anyway. :)

I'm afraid to do the point renting thing (with or without a go-between) because I am what they call "risk-adverse" in a big way, but a lot of people do it successfully and save money. :)
 

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