Can hotel pizza fliers be dangerous? Walt Disney World thinks so...

WDWmazprty

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Can hotel pizza fliers be dangerous? Walt Disney World thinks so

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By Barbara De Lollis, USA TODAY


There's a push in Florida to encourage a police crackdown on unsolicited pizza menus and other fliers in hotels, the Orlando Sentinel reports.
What's so dangerous about a flimsy piece of paper that advertises a $9.99 pizza pie and a 1-800 number?
The handouts are really said to be a ruse by criminals to convince hungry tourists to give out their names, credit-card information and hotel room number. They apparently pose such a threat to both tourists - and Florida's $60 billion-a-year tourism industry - that even Walt Disney World's backing legislation designed to fight them, the paper says.
Supporters of a pizza-flier crackdown pin their hopes on the proposed "Tourist Safety Act of 2011," which passed a House committee last week.
The proposed legislation would make it easier for police to arrest people who illegally distribute these fliers in hotels. It would allow police to seize the workers' cars, as is allowed in drug-related cases.
It would not affect the distribution of materials from legitimate companies such as Pizza Hut or Domino's Pizza, which have contracts with hotels and permission to be on the property, the Sentinel has said.
Central Florida hoteliers want Florida to take action because they claim criminals use the pizza menus as a ruse to obtain tourists' credit-card numbers, steal their identities and/or burglarize their hotel rooms, the paper says.
A year ago, the St. Petersburg Times quoted State Rep. Kevin Ambler, R-Tampa, as describing the pizza flier ruse as a "problem of epidemic proportions" and possibly "part of an organized crime syndicate."
The bill's sponsor, Rep. Steve Crisafulli, R-Merritt Island, linked the fliers to an attempted rape and the beating of a security guard at Daytona Beach hotels last fall. The legislation "gives law enforcement the tools it needs to keep tourists safe," Crisafulli told the Sentinel.
Lobbyists for Walt Disney World, as well as Central Orlando's hotel association, appeared last week to support the legislation, the paper says.
Similar legislation almost passed last year but died because of an unrelated political debate over abortion, the Sentinel says. Whether it succeeds this time remains to be seen, since it has attracted some skepticism on both sides of the aisle.
Rep. Daphne Campbell, D-Miami, called it "ridiculous" to jail people for passing out fliers in hotels, particularly when the state faces a nearly $4 billion budget shortfall.
Readers: Have you ever had a problem after you've called a number on a hotel pizza flier?
 

zbsigpi

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As a manager at a hotel that experiences the problem of pizza restaurants and their flyers. This is not an issue of the hotel loosing revenue to outside sources. The issue that we face is that these restaurants, some of which are ran out of peoples homes (sounds strange but true). Normally hire homeless/runaway kids to tresspass on to the hotels property, walk the floors and shove the flyers under the guest room doors. Now most restaurants and most of the hired solicitors are fine and they are there to make money, however there have been several instances where as the article states there have been rapes, beatings and thefts perpetrated by these hires solicitors. Plain and simply we do not want people who are not the resorts guests in non "public" areas of the hotel. The pizza delivery people know that when they are delivering the pizza to go to the front desk so that the front desk agents can call the guests to come down to pick up thier pizza, seen as an inconvience to most guests but we are trying to look out for their safety as well as the safety of the other guests and our associates.

Currently, if we catch someone tresspassing, we contact the police and they issues a no tresspassing citation to the person. Big deal, the likely hood of us ever catching the same solicitor is slim to none being that most of these people (kids) are transient and the business owner just hires new solicitors. We would truly like to go after the business owners but cannot.
 

tampabrad

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If the people distributing the fake flyers are criminals, what is stopping them from putting a Pizza Hut or Dominos logo on their flier with a different number. Tourists are not going to know the correct number for any of the places with a contract.

Hotels would have to verify all material distributed on their property.
 

NYwdwfan

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When we were at Poly in December we came back to the room to find at least 4-5 flyers every time we left. I did find it a bit odd that people were walking through the hotels distributing them. It was the first trip where this happened. I like the idea of making it stop - it was like the outside world was invading my vacation and intruding on my magic.
 

Mickey_777

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This happens off-site too...what do they do, send a different person everyday to slip flyers under the door? It gets annoying when your there for the week.
 

Testtrack321

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If the people distributing the fake flyers are criminals, what is stopping them from putting a Pizza Hut or Dominos logo on their flier with a different number. Tourists are not going to know the correct number for any of the places with a contract.

Hotels would have to verify all material distributed on their property.

Two points

1.) Then they'll have two corporations coming after them (and remember, their phone number is on the flyer)
2.) Official pizza flyers aren't delivered this way. They'd still be easy to spot as being illegal.
 

loveofamouse

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i find the flyers annoying and odd how these people get on property. Obviously, the gate guards are pointless. It's too easy to get past them.
 

Pioneer Hall

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i find the flyers annoying and odd how these people get on property. Obviously, the gate guards are pointless. It's too easy to get past them.

It isn't difficult to get into the resort. If they drive up and say they are there to eat or shop then they will let you in. Clearly these people aren't driving up to the gates and saying "Hi, I'm here to illegally trespass and solicit"
 

Prince-1

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Unfortunately, people seem to leave their common sense at home when they go on vacation. This idea makes perfect sense designed to protect the public. If people want to order a late nite snack then go to the yellow pages and find a place that delivers.
 

Tigger1988

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We had a problem with this last November at Boardwalk. My mother happened to be up around 1am using the restroom and saw a flyer slipped under our door. Turned out to be some random restaurant just outside of property. This bothered us because who wants some random creep wandering the halls at 1am, so the next morning we brought it to the front desk. Thankfully they caught the guy in the act, they said it worries them just as much as it worried us.
 

NYwdwfan

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We had a problem with this last November at Boardwalk. My mother happened to be up around 1am using the restroom and saw a flyer slipped under our door. Turned out to be some random restaurant just outside of property. This bothered us because who wants some random creep wandering the halls at 1am, so the next morning we brought it to the front desk. Thankfully they caught the guy in the act, they said it worries them just as much as it worried us.

This. Especially in a place jam packed with kids. The more I think about it the happier I am they are looking for a solution.
 

flavious27

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I don't know why people would order food over the phone and use their credit card number, especially at a place they are not familiar with.
 

tampabrad

Active Member
I don't know why people would order food over the phone and use their credit card number, especially at a place they are not familiar with.

Unfortunately, when people vacation, they seem to forget to pack their brains and common sense. Plus with everything becoming cashless, people are used to using a CC.

Next time you are in a park watch and see how many times you see a child trying to keep up with his/her parents who are 20-30 feet ahead of them. I was shocked when I first noticed this.

i find the flyers annoying and odd how these people get on property. Obviously, the gate guards are pointless. It's too easy to get past them.

WDW should only let guests staying at the resort through the gates after the restaurants close. There is no reason for anyone else to be there. If people are coming to visit you, they should have to call the room and verify with the guests.
 

MileLongBar

New Member
My last trip Jan. 21-24 at the Wilderness Lodge this happened to me and my girlfriend. But it looked like a legit menu and everything, but it did seem pretty strange to us. We have stayed at WDW 4 times in the past year and the previous 3 we did not get the pizza papers
 

wdwfan4ver

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I had this problem during my last two trips down there. I tossed a lot of flyers away. I first saw flyers at Port Orleans French Quarter during my trip from late August to the day I left.

I tossed more flyers away during my at Caribbean Beach from Nov.30th to Dec.6th.

I happy Disney is trying to do something about this.
 

NYwdwfan

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Next time you are in a park watch and see how many times you see a child trying to keep up with his/her parents who are 20-30 feet ahead of them. I was shocked when I first noticed this.

Minor thread hijack: A woman was behind us on line for SSE - talking on her cell phone. Her group was ahead of us - so she wiggled her way past (didn't say excuse me or anything - since she was on the phone and all). There was some sort of an unload issue (I think someone fell) so we were standing for about 15 minutes - the whole time this little girl who was about 3 was just hanging on the handrail behind us. She didn't seem to "belong" to anyone. When the line started to move again she ducked under the rail to the side where the landscaping is and made her way up to the woman who was now off the phone - who scooped her up and asked her "where did you come from?". :eek: Yeah - common sense doesn't always make it into the suitcase. :rolleyes:
 

zbsigpi

Member
What I have seen happen is that a car or van load of people drive into the hotel parking lot and drop off x amount of people off then go to the next hotel to drop more off then circle back around to pick them up and on and on it goes.
 

thelookingglass

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One time, I was visiting my friend who was staying in a motel on 192 in Kissimmee. It wasn't the nicest motel, so we were a little creeped out when we heard the door knocker "click" around 11:30 pm on a Monday. We looked through the peep hole and didn't see anyone. We waited, then opened the door to find one of these sketchy looking pizza flyers shoved under the door knocker. The hotel had warnings posted about these flyers. This one had no address on it and some vague name, so we decided to see what would happen if we called and simply asked for their location. They didn't give us an address, rather a description. We drove by the description to find... a 7-Eleven.

All in all, kind of creepy, and I'm glad they are cracking down on this.
 

WDWmazprty

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Original Poster
Minor thread hijack: A woman was behind us on line for SSE - talking on her cell phone. Her group was ahead of us - so she wiggled her way past (didn't say excuse me or anything - since she was on the phone and all). There was some sort of an unload issue (I think someone fell) so we were standing for about 15 minutes - the whole time this little girl who was about 3 was just hanging on the handrail behind us. She didn't seem to "belong" to anyone. When the line started to move again she ducked under the rail to the side where the landscaping is and made her way up to the woman who was now off the phone - who scooped her up and asked her "where did you come from?". :eek: Yeah - common sense doesn't always make it into the suitcase. :rolleyes:


Parent fail. :brick::brick::brick: Those people annoy me to no end! :fork:
 

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