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Hakunamatata

Hakunamatata

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919Florida

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RandomPrincess

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919Florida said:
Its because on the internet they have more than one username and make themself look like they are a larger audience then they really are. They really are a minority trying to act as a majority.
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hakunamatata said:
Sort oalong the same lines as some political figures creating bogus twitter accounts so the can follow themselves and look more popular than they are.
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Or it's just Slacktivisim at it's finest, anyone remember Kony?

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englanddg

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RandomPrincess said:
Or it's just Slacktivisim at it's finest, anyone remember Kony?

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I brought up Kony several pages ago...and yes, this reminds me of that.

Look, I have no issue at all with films like Blackfish, slanted or not. The film was extremely well done, had a fantastic score, and was compelling (though mostly an edited emotional appeal). Just like I have no issue with many of Michael Moore's documentaries (or most documentaries at all). Most are slanted to gain viewers, outside of the really dry ones...and that's fine. If it interests people to start researching the issue being presented, and acts to encourage reasoned discussion, I applaud it!

What I do have an issue with are people who will watch one movie and then decide they are now informed enough about a specific situation to make an educated decision about it.

To make matters worse, many of them then feel that they are now, after watching a film and possibly doing a few hours of googling, they are now educated enough about a situation that they should not only form an opinion, but have the ability to dismiss (not counter, not discuss, dismiss) anything that does not conform to the opinion they have decided...because, that just may mean they are not as educated as they think they are.

There is a term for this...confirmation bias.

And that, my friend, is the death of reasoning. And, without reasoning, we as a species (as history has proven) make some very...very...BAD decisions.
 
unkadug

unkadug

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JPatton said:
Same does not go for whales, jdmdisney99. Captive-born orcas are not a new species.

“All of the science tells us that the welfare of wild-caught as well as captive-born dolphins and whales is equally poor. They still live the same short, stressful lives, die of the same diseases, show the same behavioral abnormalities. What that tells you is that captivity is fundamentally incompatible with what these animals need to thrive. And it doesn’t matter if they are born in captivity. That doesn’t make them domesticated. They’re still wild.”

Lori Marino, Ph.D.
Senior Lecturer in Neuroscience and Behavioral Biology at Emory University
Faculty Member in the Emory Center for Ethics
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Do you get extra money for posting in obnoxious colors?
 
JPatton

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OFTeric said:
So your extremists threaten SeaWorld... which cause them to have a police escort then you complain about a police escort.
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Typical...

OFTeric, observers of SeaWorld Inc. will notice that anytime there is trouble or a disagreement it is always somebody else's fault. Nothing is ever SeaWorld's fault. They are blameless.

The SeaWorld executives like to look down on the world from above and assign blame to everyone but themselves. It's the extremists, the misinformed, the crazies......and let's not forget that Dawn Brancheau wore her hair in a ponytail that day and got us all into this mess!

They'll even blame their own poor performance on the weather...

I say to SeaWorld if you must have armed guards walk alongside your floral float in the Rose Parade, you have a real problem and the problem is----YOU.
 
englanddg

englanddg

One Little Spark...
JPatton said:
Typical...

OFTeric, observers of SeaWorld Inc. will notice that anytime there is trouble or a disagreement it is always somebody else's fault. Nothing is ever SeaWorld's fault. They are blameless.

The SeaWorld executives like to look down on the world from above and assign blame to everyone but themselves. It's the extremists, the misinformed, the crazies......and let's not forget that Dawn Brancheau wore her hair in a ponytail that day and got us all into this mess!

They'll even blame their own poor performance on the weather...

I say to SeaWorld if you must have armed guards walk alongside your floral float in the Rose Parade, you have a real problem and the problem is----YOU.
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Yes. Exactly. Public temper tantrums instead of rational discussion. I'm so glad they attacked a float at a family event. They sure stuck it to the man!

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919Florida

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JPatton said:
Typical...

OFTeric, observers of SeaWorld Inc. will notice that anytime there is trouble or a disagreement it is always somebody else's fault. Nothing is ever SeaWorld's fault. They are blameless.

The SeaWorld executives like to look down on the world from above and assign blame to everyone but themselves. It's the extremists, the misinformed, the crazies......and let's not forget that Dawn Brancheau wore her hair in a ponytail that day and got us all into this mess!

They'll even blame their own poor performance on the weather...

I say to SeaWorld if you must have armed guards walk alongside your floral float in the Rose Parade, you have a real problem and the problem is----YOU.
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No one said SeaWorld is blameless and they will never say they are perfect. No one is perfect but you.

As for when attendance was lower due to heavy rains and storms SeaWorld takes a big hit. Shows can’t go on in storms all the coasters are outdoors and can’t operate in storms unless you would like to see the people struck by lightning. Disney and Universal are different and that is why they were not affected. Most attractions are indoors there and not as affected as SeaWorld will be.

As for the situation with Dawn it was a tragic accident. Let her be now. Her family still strongly supports SeaWorld. If anyone would be leading a fight it should be them since it affected their daughter. But they are not. They know her love for the whales and SeaWorld and they want to SeaWorld continue to thrive and carry on the legacy her daughter was a part of
 
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Hakunamatata

Hakunamatata

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JPatton said:
I say to SeaWorld if you must have armed guards walk alongside your floral float in the Rose Parade, you have a real problem and the problem is----YOU.
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I'm not positive, but I don't imagine SeaWorld execs frequent an Disney focused message board.

Question. Say SW gives in and delivers all its orcas to you and you put them in your bathtub for safe keeping. What's next? Dolphins? Rays? Urchins? What is next on your list to accuse abuse over?

I must say, you have done a great job swaying opinion. I'm really contemplating changing my will to leave my amassed wealth to SeaWorld.
 
unkadug

unkadug

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JPatton said:
Typical...

OFTeric, observers of SeaWorld Inc. will notice that anytime there is trouble or a disagreement it is always somebody else's fault. Nothing is ever SeaWorld's fault. They are blameless.

The SeaWorld executives like to look down on the world from above and assign blame to everyone but themselves. It's the extremists, the misinformed, the crazies......and let's not forget that Dawn Brancheau wore her hair in a ponytail that day and got us all into this mess!

They'll even blame their own poor performance on the weather...

I say to SeaWorld if you must have armed guards walk alongside your floral float in the Rose Parade, you have a real problem and the problem is----YOU.
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Good god dude...so the problem was the NewYorkers working in the World Trade Center and not the crazed terrorists?

Are you REALLY saying that people being terrorists should be commended?? I think the problem here is YOU.
 
englanddg

englanddg

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unkadug said:
Good god dude...so the problem was the NewYorkers working in the World Trade Center and not the crazed terrorists?

Are you REALLY saying that people being terrorists should be commended?? I think the problem here is YOU.
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Meh. You just don't know the rules. Here, let me explain. Pretty much any post so far will fall under one of these, I promise. I've highlighted a few that are very apt that Blackfish (or it's more fervent supporters) try to use...and fail...
  1. Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. (Yeah...no need to clarify this. It's obvious.)
  2. Never go outside the expertise of your people. (cherry picking evidence while dismissing other evidence)
  3. Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.(this does not mean you get to make up facts)
  4. Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. (this does not mean to misrepresent their rules)
  5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. (the rape comments?)
  6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy. (19 people storming a parade float)
  7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. (Nope...haven't learned that one)
  8. Keep the pressure on. Never let up.
  9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. (Sea World employees dying every day because of "the man!")
  10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. (I don't see this building a national coalition like animal rights did 30 or 40 years ago. Merely it's mental masturbation.)
  11. If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.
  12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. (nope, not presented...they must have missed that day in class)
  13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. (Nuff said)
 
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Hakunamatata

Hakunamatata

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englanddg said:
Meh. You just don't know the rules. Here, let me explain. Pretty much any post so far will fall under one of these, I promise.
  1. Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.
  2. Never go outside the expertise of your people.
  3. Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.
  4. Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
  5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
  6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy.
  7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
  8. Keep the pressure on. Never let up.
  9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.
  10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.
  11. If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.
  12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
  13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
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Saul Alinsky - Rules for Radicals.
 
wm49rs

wm49rs

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JPatton said:
Typical...

OFTeric, observers of SeaWorld Inc. will notice that anytime there is trouble or a disagreement it is always somebody else's fault. Nothing is ever SeaWorld's fault. They are blameless.

The SeaWorld executives like to look down on the world from above and assign blame to everyone but themselves. It's the extremists, the misinformed, the crazies......and let's not forget that Dawn Brancheau wore her hair in a ponytail that day and got us all into this mess!

They'll even blame their own poor performance on the weather...

I say to SeaWorld if you must have armed guards walk alongside your floral float in the Rose Parade, you have a real problem and the problem is----YOU.
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Yeah, they were defending Seaworld, unlike those that employ you. And unlike them, there would be no need for police escort while watching the SW float at the Rose Bowl Parade.

But I'll grant you this, your employers would be proud at your efforts.....
 
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