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Biggest blunder in each of the parks

monothingie

The Most Positive Member on the Forum ™
Premium Member
So...has Disney done anything right at WDW in the last 35 years?

I would also never call anything a mistake, I would call it a magic reducer.

Finally, not to beat a dead horse. I always thought that Neg-Rep and "report to moderator" should be reserved for people who present their posts in a disrespectful, rude, and insulting manner. I can see the point raised at avoiding repetition, but there is a steady stream of new members to WDWMagic who might want to weigh in on topics which have been discussed to the hilt (like this one). I would like to think that a simple PM to a poster doing this as opposed to neg rep would be a more positive and proactive approach and might stem the tides of negativity streaming through some threads.

Regards,
Andrew
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
There was no need to restart this thread.....

As for the discussion on Rep, it means things to each person differently. I have my approach, others have theirs.
 

Halfling418

New Member
monothingie said:
So...has Disney done anything right at WDW in the last 35 years?

I would also never call anything a mistake, I would call it a magic reducer.

Finally, not to beat a dead horse. I always thought that Neg-Rep and "report to moderator" should be reserved for people who present their posts in a disrespectful, rude, and insulting manner. I can see the point raised at avoiding repetition, but there is a steady stream of new members to WDWMagic who might want to weigh in on topics which have been discussed to the hilt (like this one). I would like to think that a simple PM to a poster doing this as opposed to neg rep would be a more positive and proactive approach and might stem the tides of negativity streaming through some threads.

Regards,
Andrew

Well said. Even when I read offensive posts, they don't have me so bent out of shape that I felt the need to take my revenge on them by giving them negative rep. points. I focus on the positive and compliment those who say things that I admire...or at least find entertaining! I have no problem with both sides of this argument--they both have their points and state them clearly. If you have a problem, why not ask the person about it?
 

arcsbite

Well-Known Member
wow, every other thread nowadays is "I hate this, I hate that" "I hate you for this thread"

New people arrive to the site daily...who on earth as a newbie wants to read through old posts Just to make sure they're excited question and participation hasn't "been done" ?

it's 2005, lets face it, EVERYTHING has been done, EVER.

If you don't like it, you don't gotta click n enter.

ok, so i'll play..but only if I get to state both sides.

worst (for me, opinion only)

MK - 20k, never rode it, but the area itself was so beautiful, shame it's gone
Epcot - SSE, it's too "old school" for me
MGM - The whole impossible expansion thing.
AK - Dinoland USA

Best (fact!..ok, opinion only)

MK - Main Street - I just adore the atmosphere
Epcot - Arghh..everything, this place is amazing especailly World Showcase, Illuminations being my no.1
MGM - Tower of Terror...nuff said.
AK - Nature, and everything that is green *loves it*
 
Urghh....

I may be a new user at these forums but I am using it to voice my opinions out. I apologize to all elder users but I do agree with you that a new user can use the search and find old threads on the same topic. but If the user wants some new "Up to Date" info then he would have to post a new thread. I too was interested in this topic and i could have easily done a search but the information whould have been out dated. There is no rule stating that you can't open up past topics and there is also no rule stating that you have to come into every thread and complain about how it was posted before. because lets face it. eventualy there won't be any threads at all if we don't do repeats to get new ideas on old topics because we will be waiting for disney to do new things all the time. so just lighten up on us newcomers and dont view a thread if you don't wish to.

I'm sorry to all the members who do not wish to see negativity on this sight but if members such as photo dave just let this thread go it's course like past ones then the negativity would come and go. Negativity only makes the positive look better.
Walt Disney himself built his parks on the ground of criticizing other parks and making changes. so just let it go and dont view them.

MK:The Birthday Cake of course
Epcot: Destruction of Journey into Imagination, And the Wand
MGM: The Hat and the houses
AK: not building Beastly Kingdom
Overall WDW: Not expanding the Monorail Tracks.-solve all transportation problems.
 

arcsbite

Well-Known Member
Laufschneller65 said:
I may be a new user at these forums but I am using it to voice my opinions out. I apologize to all elder users but I do agree with you that a new user can use the search and find old threads on the same topic. but If the user wants some new "Up to Date" info then he would have to post a new thread. I too was interested in this topic and i could have easily done a search but the information whould have been out dated. There is no rule stating that you can't open up past topics and there is also no rule stating that you have to come into every thread and complain about how it was posted before. because lets face it. eventualy there won't be any threads at all if we don't do repeats to get new ideas on old topics because we will be waiting for disney to do new things all the time. so just lighten up on us newcomers and dont view a thread if you don't wish to.

I'm sorry to all the members who do not wish to see negativity on this sight but if members such as photo dave just let this thread go it's course like past ones then the negativity would come and go. Negativity only makes the positive look better.
Walt Disney himself built his parks on the ground of criticizing other parks and making changes. so just let it go and dont view them.

MK:The Birthday Cake of course
Epcot: Destruction of Journey into Imagination, And the Wand
MGM: The Hat and the houses
AK: not building Beastly Kingdom
Overall WDW: Not expanding the Monorail Tracks.-solve all transportation problems.

+rep and Hi, VERY well said.
 

Tara Mae

New Member
Epcot: removing Dreamfinder, grrr, and adding that ugly wand to the Earth. How ugly is it?

Magic Kingdom: Closing Time Keeper, COP, and bringing Stitch about.

MGM: The destruction of the backlot tours and the addition of those crappy new streets. What's happening with Disney? :(

Animal Kingdom: Ever thinking to put in Dinoland and adding Everest.

My opinions.
 

JeffH

Active Member
Turn it around...

Citing mistakes does nothing constructive.
Instead we should concentrate on making good suggestions on how to make each park better. Disney, does listen to us, and this board (I've found) is the most positive minded Disney board I've visited. This is also the board that the CMs seem to know about. So we can make a difference.
For instance, I've always growled about why Ariel doesn't do meet and greets.
That having her with fins in the grotto is what doesn't make sense since at the end of the movie she was given legs by her father. In fact it was in the last 2 - 3 months that I suggested here that perhaps Germany should start up their own Princess breakfast and "hire" Ariel and their own Snow White, and the dwarfs.

And now Ariel appears at the Princess Storybook Lunch and Dinner...do you think my suggestion had anything to do with it? Perhaps...

Here are my suggestions:
MK:
Big: convert raceway into tooncars, move to opposite side of tracks, make track much longer, behind toontown, you drive through a friendly toon village, then stretching behind Fantasyland you enter a scary villain's forest and town, then back to the friendly toon village.
The racecars never fit into any theme, are noisy and smelly (they could be turned into electric toon cars), and less fun since that moron sued Disney forcing Disney to put up the real big no bumping signs everywhere.
This frees up a huge chunk of "wasted space", for future expansion in Tomorrowland (like an advanced amphitheatre), allows the path to toontown to be straightening up and widening, and the addition of more toontown things on both sides of the path....which would then better define Fantasyland as ending at the Mad Tea Party, which before sort of stuck into Tomorrowland.
Then, of course the development of the Villian's area of Fantasyland, behind Fantasyland...all of these ideas would vastly increase the capacity of the park, which means they could fit more people in every day and make more money to justify the financing of the changes/additions.
Little: Can't think of any little thing since MK is so perfect, now...
but, if the villian's area was built, bringing back Mr. Toad would fit quite well in that area, since you go to hell at the end.

Epcot:
Big: Change funding requirements so that several new countries get added to World Showcase...or start funding them (and assume 100% of the profits).
Add more eating options to Wonders of Life, so that it becomes a magnet for people later in the day like the Land is....basically find some way to get the people in there instead of leaving it to rot...the attractions are great.
Little: better transportation to cut down on walking. I get tired of hearing all the CMs joking how EPCOT stands for Everyone Comes Out Tired. I feel for the people walking in from the Epcot resorts needing to get to the opposite side of the lagoon. If the friendship boats crossed to the opposite docks, then they'd save more steps and time. The way it is now, you can actually walk to the other side faster than the boats. If they added a dock between Norway and China, then they could add another route between it and the International Gateway.

MGM:
Big: Muppetland, Harry Potter land,
Little: build a new stage for Hunchback and bring it back
bring back character dining at Hollywood and Vine...the only place where you could "Dine with the Stars".

AK:
Big: Beastly Kingdom (newly designed)
Little: lower gaming fees in Dinoland to almost nothing...it's simply not right for Disney to be raking in dough on what is suppose to be an attraction...a much needed addition to AK. What, are we funding Everest here??? I don't see them charging $3-$4 per turn at the shooting gallery in Frontierland. If the games were more like $1 per adult, .25 per child, then they'd still pay for the cheap, non-Disney plush that you could win. Then this area would quickly become a favorite...a gaming area where you could go and NOT get ripped off and just have some fun....the kind of carnival we dream of.
Sorry, but throwing down $3-$4 to watch my daughter roll 3 balls into holes is ludicrous, or take 3 BasketBall shots. Except for the "lucky" ball roll game, a kid has no chance to win anything on their own, so you have to shell out at least $6 for kid and a parent to play to at least have a chance to win something. And not even the biggest dino-plush would cost Disney more then $5. Better yet, install a token system, where dad can get 6 tokens for $5, and 5 kids tokens for $1.
The only time we've ever played these games is when it was free (at the passholders party, and when they gave us 3 free games tokens at breakfast) and only ONCE we paid for ONE game when it 1st opened (I managed to beat the other parents in the water gun-gas pump game), and my daughter never ever played with the big dino I won. I think it was only $2 a head back then, now it's $3?
If I was in charge, I'd quickly end this horrible rip off, and even add some more games (to handle the expected surge of interest). And I'd monitor the games so that they just break even (adding more shots to the BB game, more balls per turn in the Comet game)...Break even would, though, include CM pay and maintenance, so that no one would consider closing the area as a result of cost cutting.

WDW:
Big: extend monorail from Epcot, to International Gateway, to MGM, to Blizzard Beach, to Animal Kingdom. At AK the train would arrive on one track and switch over to the other track to create a dual "loop" between AK and MK. On the MK side, I'd build a big Parking Garage in the parking lot of the TaTC, to consolodate all the parking into one compact area (no trams). I'd integrate the new monorail line, and tickets into the parking garage. I'd extend/rebuild the 2 tracks from Epcot to both pass through the new PG then loop around the existing monorail system. It would also need to pass through the CR and stop at a new station at the MK then loop back around to complete the AK to MK circuit. The existing monorail system would then be devoted to resort guests only (and visiting them), allowing for the addition of additional resorts, the first of which I'd build in the current site of the TaTC which would be a large character themed value resort, The House of Mouse, or something like that.
This would eliminate the longer bus routes...all the resorts would simply bus to the nearest hub...AKL to AK, All-Stars to BlizzardBeach stop, Caribean, PC to MGM...
They could then use smaller busses (during light times) and trams (during heavy congestion).
Little: Weekly parking passes...with Disney looking for ways to keep visitors on-site, weekly discounted parking passes could help (another ticket add-on?). $7 (or is it $8 now) a day parking adds up. If you can get your guests to commit to a discounted week of parking, then maybe they'd be less prone to spend yet another $8 for parking at Universal when you've already paid for parking at WDW. As another ticket add-on, it would be another good reason to buy your tickets ahead of time, making yet another commitment to WDW for your entire stay. I would discount a dollar off each day...$7 for 1st, $6 for 2nd, $5 for 3rd, $4 for 4th, $3 for 5th, $2 for 6th, $1 for 7th, free for the rest of your ticketed stay.
Even if the current price was $8, I'd charge only $7 for the 1st day ticket, since it is paid for in advance.
Note: I am an annual passport holder, so this doesn't affect me, but if I were in charge, that's what I'd consider for the benefit of the park and to reward the guests.
 

Frees Fan

Member
adamthegetupkid said:
Epcot- Future World. I miss the animatronic rides as opposed to the thrill rides. Horizons, WoM, the constant closure of Cranium Command, all that jazz. I still ride Test Track and Mission: Space, but still: Epcot was built on the fact that MK had the wild thrill rides, and Epcot was more relaxed and built for everyone to ride and still learn something.

I agree. I really miss Horizons and World of Motion...that was my favorite pavilion since I'm a car nut! :lol:
 

RedGear

Member
tylers5592 said:
photo dave .... there is a simple solution to your problem if you dont like the boards dont come to them ! ! ! ! !


Magic Kingdom - Closing AE even if a better attraction went in there

Epcot- Test Track - to slow !

Animal Kingom- Kali river rapids

MGM- Not finishing the muppet world :(

AMEN! I can't believe how many people are upset about someone who is new just starting a thread that maybe they didn't know exsited. It's not the end of the world. . .

Alright now that that's said here's my two cents on the thread.

MK- I have 2 of them getting rid of AE and mr. toads adventure!

Epcot- closing the computer intereaction where you could answer questions asked by the robot. I remember this when i went when I was six years old, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. And Test track is too slow, maybe faster towards the end?

AK- Not enough attractions!!

MGM- Not enough attractions!! I feel like it's almost all shows! :)
 

LSUxStitch

Well-Known Member
I am not new here because I lurked and read different things for a while, but I have noticed numerous times where "senior" members make fun or post negativity towards the newer members. I recall a time where I had made a valid point, only to be cut down for my grammar by a "senior" member. Why can't we all keep the Disney Spirit alive on the boards? PhotoDave...no matter how long you have been here, you should know better than to post something totally off topic and to put down other members. I dont believe your post had anything to do with the topic, and you should recieve negative rep points for that.

Back on topic:

MK: Pink Cake Castle
Epcot: Discontinuing the Sea Cabs in Living Seas
AK: Like everyone else, not enough rides.
MGM: Needs more thrill rides based on movies, or higher quality shows.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Thats your opinion and I still continue to believe that the negative tone of this and other threads does anything to add anything constructive to these forums.

Clearly we dont agree. Ive got my opinion, youve got yours. I feel that there's nothing constructive about pointing out "blunders" or whatever the complaint of the week is. With my post, i'm simply pointing out the continued negativity of these forums and that i'm going to feedback in ways that are accessable to me, because i dont feel these negative threads do anything to improve this community as a whole.

Moreover, i'll boil it down. If you have the right to criticise Disney, i have a right to criticize your criticisms. You say "Dont like it, dont read it", then i suggest the exact same thing right back.

All in all, we dont agree. And IMO Im waiting for Dinorama to be hit by Godzilla....
 

JeffH

Active Member
No problem here

Although my post was basically the opposite of this thread, I don't see anything wrong with it. The Disney bashing is when you make unjustified negative comments as to the current operation of the Parks, like "the magic is gone". We all make mistakes, including Disney, and reflecting on them could at least prevent them from being repeated. I could list LOTS of, what I consider mistakes...
>eliminating the only character dining meal at MGM, now the only park without character dining...and they continue to add more to the other parks?!?
>Test Track replacing WoM instead of being added to it is probably one of the stupidest corporate (GM) moves I've ever seen. Now instead of families passing through the GM showroom, you have teenagers. Teenagers can't drive, and can't buy a car...their parents DO and usually buy their kids their 1st car. While teenie rode TT, parents could have been spending time in the showroom, now parents will send teenie to the ride and go elsewhere. TT would have brought the families back who would have brought the ridership of WoM back up.
>In the same way MS could have teamed up with Horizons to bring the whole family to the area...again, teenies don't buy HP computers, their parents do.
>The new JiImagination is a great concept, bringing into them with the rest of the pavilion, but it is basically a bunch of empty space. Now if they would have filled all that empty space with some of the wonderful displays from the original Imagination ride, then we'd have something wonderful...a mix of the best of the old, with the theming of the new
 

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