Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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Why are they suddenly not doing the supernatural stuff? The whole point of the new scene is the thunder turning the rainbow caverns all red to signify the angry spirits making the train run away
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MK Big Thunder Mountain to receive full retrack
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Gusey
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I'm taking it as we're now riding at the time when the supernatural stuff starts to happen, as miners or visitors, rather than years later when the mines are abandoned and we just randomly decide to explore and sit on these runway mine trains
noodles
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I hate people.
There's no stripping away of the supernatural...
New Magic Is Thunderin’
The iconic rumblin’, rollin’ Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is currently undergoing a mountaintop-to-cavern refurbishment meant to keep the classic attraction in terrific shape and will reopen in 2026. In addition to the action and adventure we know and love, Big Thunder Mountain will feature new magic for fans to discover including a journey through the spectacular natural phenomena of the Rainbow Caverns, which may not be as welcoming as they first appear.
Ayla
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Natural phenomena is not supernatural.
Castle Cake Apologist
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Chat, is natural the same thing as supernatural?
Gusey
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It's clearly saying that the rainbow caverns are the natural phenomena, but the effect after with the red lights and bats is when they "may not be as welcoming as they first appear." AKA the supernatural element.
I'm just surprised at the amount of people who never realised that the driverless runaway mine trains through an abandoned mineshaft had a supernatural element to the story and it wasn't just that the brakes were not working or a bear had pushed the wrong switch (like in Hong Kong)
Ayla
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They can't be both. It's one or the other.
Gusey
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Can it not? The storyline for BTM has always been that its a haunted mine with runaway mine trains driven by themselves. They're not changing anything storywise, they're just saying they're making the supernatural element of the story a little bit more apparent.
Magic can be natural, supernatural, or neither. It simply is. It’s magic. Different scenarios attempt to explain it, but in this case, it seems some of the more overtly supernatural elements have been toned down. Instead, the "magic" appears to stem from a natural source, though still fantastical—just one step removed from the mystical, maybe.
Not to dive too deep, but it’s a bit like how gemstones are believed to possess both natural and supernatural properties, depending on one's interpretation, beliefs, or cultural context. Or how a “magical” hot spring might be viewed—curative and mysterious, yet scientifically explainable. The idea of a diabolical natural phenomenon could still be in play, which would give some weight back to that eerie, supernatural undertone.
As for the backstory—still as clear as mud. The only thing we know for certain is that the mine is no longer abandoned.
Not to dive too deep, but it’s a bit like how gemstones are believed to possess both natural and supernatural properties, depending on one's interpretation, beliefs, or cultural context. Or how a “magical” hot spring might be viewed—curative and mysterious, yet scientifically explainable. The idea of a diabolical natural phenomenon could still be in play, which would give some weight back to that eerie, supernatural undertone.
As for the backstory—still as clear as mud. The only thing we know for certain is that the mine is no longer abandoned.
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Disgruntled Walt
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Where does it actually say that the mine is no longer abandoned? Are we just assuming it is no longer abandoned because it doesn't include the word abandoned and it used to? Because if the Mountain is "fighting back" against the miners, are we to assume that the miners are still down there trying? More likely, they're long gone. I kind of feel like we're overanalyzing the change in language here. I'm sure it's still going to be an abandoned mine. The changes to the opening lift hill sound like a doubling down on the haunted elements.
Disgruntled Walt
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Oh, it's because they describe it as an "active mine shaft?" I still don't think that changes much. Why is there a "runaway" train in a mine that is still functioning? Active in this sense could mean that there is still gold down there, not that miners are currently hammering, right?
But it's a far cry from the original: Streak through a haunted gold-mining town aboard a rollicking runaway mine train.I hope they retain the supernatural aspects and actually double down on them but the new description seems to downplay that for some strange reason.
natural phenomena of the Rainbow Caverns, which may not be
It's subjunctive.
The implication isn't that the natural is supernatural; but the *presupposed natural* is, in fact, actually, supernatural instead of what was presupposed.
"All may not be as it appears."
may. not. be.
Subjunctive case.
Smiley/OCD
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Just swap BT Bullion for Jack Sparrow with the scene of him sitting with all that gold & treasure on PotC and bring the whole set to BRMRR…
easyrowrdw
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It’s a rollercoaster. They never have drivers lol The ride itself doesn’t convey the supernatural. I think it’s very different than Haunted Mansion or even Everest. And it’s great without that extra wrinkle in there! It’s my family’s favorite ride and we never thought there was anything supernatural about it.