EPCOT Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

Casper Gutman

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I think the dark ride is fine and adds more than it replaces for the average guest.

Nemo isn't a glaring hole in EPCOT and with a bit more polish for writing, can fit even tighter with the themes The Seas wants to convey about conservation and the relationship man has with the ocean.

I think The Land gets touched up sooner than The Seas anyways.
I don’t get this - Land seems like the most solid pavilion in Future World while Seas is just very long in the tooth.
 

James Alucobond

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I don’t get this - Land seems like the most solid pavilion in Future World while Seas is just very long in the tooth.
I think they just mean The Land interior, which I would agree is worse than The Seas because the latter is more explicitly themed. While both are dated in certain respects, The Land's shabby food court atrium is a drag on what is otherwise the most wonderfully realized pavilion.
 

Casper Gutman

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I think they just mean The Land interior, which I would agree is worse than The Seas because the latter is more explicitly themed. While both are dated in certain respects, The Land's shabby food court atrium is a drag on what is otherwise the most wonderfully realized pavilion.
I’m not sure how much you can do with the Land interior - the design of the space itself prompts the “food court” vibes. There’s only so much some paint and furniture rearranging can do. Personally, I find the retro feel very EPCOT.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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dmc493

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Epcot feels like it has the widest entrance of all four parks. Combined with International Gateway absorbing some of the traffic that the front entrance used to handle pre-Skyliner, they never seem to need a ton of touchpoints open at peak.

I get the logic, just don't love the look
 

James Alucobond

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I’m not sure how much you can do with the Land interior - the design of the space itself prompts the “food court” vibes. There’s only so much some paint and furniture rearranging can do. Personally, I find the retro feel very EPCOT.
It's a design disaster even from a "retro EPCOT" perspective. The half-walls that surround the various dining enclaves on the lower level were never meant to be there and make traversing the area a pain, and there's a complete stylistic disconnect between the retro ceiling decor, the Soarin' era dining decor, and the mish-mash of restaurant facades. Removing the banners, restoring a mural or mosaic of some kind to the ceiling, opening up the dining area again, and doing something that stylistically connects the lower level to the upper would make it feel a lot less confused.
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
https://blogmickey.com/2025/08/disney-installs-physical-gates-epcot-main-entrance/

This one's an interesting development, wondering if this is a result of guest behavior? People just going over/under the ropes?

Yes, guest poor and larcenous behavior. Anyone thats been to park opening can attest to how plenty of people don't comprehend how a line works, its always how much can I push my way forward, to heck with anyone else. Groups are usually the worst as they spread like spilled paint in the line and around the tapstyles even though the openings support multiple entry points.
 

Casper Gutman

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It's a design disaster even from a "retro EPCOT" perspective. The half-walls that surround the various dining enclaves on the lower level were never meant to be there and make traversing the area a pain, and there's a complete stylistic disconnect between the retro ceiling decor, the Soarin' era dining decor, and the mish-mash of restaurant facades. Removing the banners, restoring a mural or mosaic of some kind to the ceiling, opening up the dining area again, and doing something that stylistically connects the lower level to the upper would make it feel a lot less confused.
Sounds good to me!
 

lazyboy97o

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networkpro

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Yes
By groups do you mean families? How dare a family try to get into Epcot together!!! Haha
The tapstyle system is designed to process one guest per mickey head at a time, not a herd. Same disconnect as the brilliant designer who thought that individual admission placards stored on a single device would be quicker/more convenient than individual admission media. Not designed for mobs with or without strollers. Stroller parties sometimes block other entry points putting them out of thier way, but in the way of other admission points. They should have dedicated lanes/holding pens for such chaotic groups. I believe the West Coasts facial scan entry is a better approach.
 

Animaniac93-98

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It's a design disaster even from a "retro EPCOT" perspective. The half-walls that surround the various dining enclaves on the lower level were never meant to be there and make traversing the area a pain, and there's a complete stylistic disconnect between the retro ceiling decor, the Soarin' era dining decor, and the mish-mash of restaurant facades. Removing the banners, restoring a mural or mosaic of some kind to the ceiling, opening up the dining area again, and doing something that stylistically connects the lower level to the upper would make it feel a lot less confused.

It's not very "retro" in its current state either, it just feels like an airport

The old Land would look dated today, but it had more color to it

...and another fountain that Future World doesn't have anymore

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