Sadly, CommuniCore Hall is the part of this redo that genuinely needs to be leveled. The gardens feel salvageable, but the hall will always feel cheap. They need to bring back the original concept from when Creations was to be demolished, with the collection of domes and toroids surrounded by gardens. Put the M&G in one, Festival Favorites and other fare in another, the stage in an Imagination-facing bandshell, and maybe even a carousel in another.
I sawa video a few months back (Brayden? Poseidon? Brickey?) that suggested Communicore Hall was indeed probably a panic measure, thrown up quickly, and likely not to stay for too long. We live in hope. Problem is, there needs to be another pot of money allocated for another revamp, which shows no sign of coming. Maybe for the 50th? We're 7 years away from that. They need to start now!
Much needed humor.
Honestly.It adds FUN.
I apologize I keep forgetting to add the winky emoji that denotes a joke
As for discussion in this thread, the EPCOT renovation is complete and In my opinion we are stuck that ugly planter and no fountain for decades now! (no winky emoji here)
Thanks for the kind words. I very much enjoy your posts too!
In case we need a reminder about the "pinch-point", nothing about the Fountain of Nations impeded traffic flow. Not to mention the fact that both CommuniCores had indoor air conditioned walkways that you could take from Spaceship Earth to the south end of the fountain in lieu of the exterior paths, which would've been restored as part of the original plaza plan. Plus the fact that MouseGear and Club Cool's entrances would've been decluttered, and the Fountain stage would've been removed, freeing up the area even more.
Because the gardens are generally fine if they can manage light covers that don’t warp (tall order, I know). The planters just need the level of seasonal displays that were promised, and if a fountain gets added, it should go south of the gardens.
Thank-you for posting pictures of the absolutely real pinch points that I experienced over and over and over again due to the FoN being between where Communicore SW and SE came together exacerbated by add-ons, such as Starbucks, and the concretization encirclement of the FoN to keep people away from being sprayed by the FoN (a design flaw from the beginning).
I would agree with that...at first I thought you were referring to Communicore East... The Communicore Hall is pretty lousy...poor design and concept...and feels terribly temporary though I think we can all admit it is not at all...it will be there for decades to come...a sad footnote to a disastrous renovation... I would rather see a big show fountain in the center replacing some of the gardens.... The element of water feels missing... part of why these gardens feel like a business park.
Rocket Rods would beg to differ.... But I think EPCOT Celebration whatever-it-is-called is one of the worst projects for TDO. I still can't quite figure out how this idea and lack of vision was ever greenlit...Let alone had people in charge actually promoted afterwards.... Well I guess his floor choices were ok....
Surprisingly I agree with most of this except I think Moana is the best part.
My wife loves the Moana water area so that does make it better for me. Its a nice little walkthrough, I just think it does not belong there, just my opinion.
Quality wise the Moana walk through is the best element in that area, yes I agree.
To clarify Rocket Rods is the worst attraction mistake in company history, I agree.
I've been going to Epcot since a few months after opening and in many different seasons. I've never experienced the excess crowds at the pinch points you're talking about. Busy, yes. Unbearable, no. After seeing the new plaza gardens area, I'd take the thoughtful design excellence of the original FoN and the surrounding area hands down over what's there now. But to each his own.
Agreed! and I am terrified it is going to be akin to this mess.
