Sirwalterraleigh
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Seems like they tore down an old, kinda smelly building with nothing in it…
…and put up an identical, new, less smelly building with nothing in it
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…and put up an identical, new, less smelly building with nothing in it
It was major investment to focus on enhancing things which would drive revenue only. The Play pavilion was never going to do that, neither was the Jetson's stilt thing. So they cut or redid it on the cheap.
Phicinfan
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Sorry? Investment is investment - the spending of money. Now good investment, that drives revenue..... Not even close
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Pretty sure you answered your own question there
But before we get off the rails here - since this thread seems to be an impromptu meeting of the “council of elders”…
What I’m saying is they have not positioned the park better for the future than it was 25 years ago when this mess started. That is true investment
It’s still an underattended/underappealing park. There’s not enough to do so it’s kinda stuck. And the old issues are still there: stagnation in the country pavilions, wonders of life, imagination, spaceship earth all need a huge capital/construction injection.
They need a redo to fix the redo.
Tell me I’m wrong?
With the exception of RAT and GOTG, there is nothing that was done to make EPCOT any more or less of a target destination for guests. It is not significantly more or less attended than it was prior to construction.
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Phicinfan
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it was a statement, but again, we don't really disagree
Don't disagree at all here. At some point the HAVE to finally define the theme of this theme park. If its only going to be Festival world - then focus on festival things and walk away from the World Fair theme. If they want to keep the World Fair theme, then they need to add more country pavilions in World Showcase and update or replace some of the older attractions in the other side. But they won't, hell they won't even keep what they have working well.
Yes, and this time a redo that actually redoes and improves
Not totally
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Its attendance has not grown in proportion as magic kingdom/wdw has
And it’s lost ground to DAK and MGM - by proportion
Should be a solid second based on its size and history
Vinnie Mac
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I understand most of the criticisms people have about about the updates to Epcot but personally I love the park right now. Of course I wish PLAY! pavilion didn't fall through and i think things could have gone smoother but Epcot is very fun to be at right now. Certainly more fun that it was 5-7 years ago. Space 220, Cosmic Rewind, Remy, LSOU are the biggest highlights to me but I like the change in atmosphere at the park in general. Also excited for what's to come cause the Test Track 3.0 concept art looks promising and I feel like that SSE update is going to happen some day.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
LSOU?
Phicinfan
Well-Known Member
Here's the thing. I actually like what was done, in most cases. I like the overall park theme in the center, and Moana. I like RAT and Cosmic rewind. I am okay with losing an outdated building to add a more modern building with stage and seating for Festival shows. But could they NOT have spent a bit more and fixed SSE and Figment? And you could not figure out a way to add a deluxe spinner to UK Pavilion? Seriously?
I don't give two hoots about Play, it was a huge misplay on their part. But to leave WOL empty is a sin
Phicinfan
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trainplane3
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Luminous: The Symphony of Us
CntrlFlPete
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I would think w/ ILL, they would now have a measure of an impact a new 'ride' has to earnings. I would hope it would be used to show (some) of the worth of a new attraction.
I imagine AI writes the PR now? I mean, people can come into Communicore to enjoy the AC.
I imagine AI writes the PR now? I mean, people can come into Communicore to enjoy the AC.
mattpeto
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Journey of Water is a nice add too. It also adds a ton of kinetic energy and if they didn't include IP, more people here would be lauding it's praises.
I think the center of the park is big improvement honestly. I like the "central park" charm, but I get it's not for everybody.
I'm sorry, but that's one of the more dense and frankly obtuse takes I've read lately.
Ayla
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Good god, I sure hope Bob isn't depending on 13 year olds to shape any park goals.
Ayla
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Isn't JoW completely enclosed and nothing can be seen from the outside other than some greenery?
Phicinfan
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not in all parts no
You can see SSE... for now. But those trees will grow and close it off.
Other than that, I don't remember seeing anything from outside JoW from inside JoW (unless you take the winding path to the restroom).
I even walked all the way around the inside of JoW to see if I could hear the hub music, and all the way around the outside of JoW to see if I could here the Moana music... and nope.