Big Brother 22 “All Stars 2” - Discussion and Speculation Thread

Brer Oswald

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there is a precedent for that in the first All Stars. Diane and Jase, who hated each other on BB5, had a pre game alliance called “The Mr and Mrs Smith” alliance. It was working well, until Jase spilled the beans and they were taken out.
I wonder if we’ll see any of that this time with any of the new folks? I haven’t watched a full season since 18, so I’m not sure who does and doesn’t like each other.
 

manmythlegend

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Apparently big drama going on with big brother. Derrick and Dan were going to be on the season but apparently were pre-gaming which was blown up by Nicole F (who apparently is now a cast member). Also rumors swirling of possible corona infections and alternates having to be used. Josh and Kaycee appear to be out.

Likely no Hayden, Paul, or Danielle R. Disappointing, cast is turning to crap guys.
 

Brer Oswald

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Apparently big drama going on with big brother. Derrick and Dan were going to be on the season but apparently were pre-gaming which was blown up by Nicole F (who apparently is now a cast member). Also rumors swirling of possible corona infections and alternates having to be used. Josh and Kaycee appear to be out.

Likely no Hayden, Paul, or Danielle R. Disappointing, cast is turning to crap guys.
I don’t believe in the rumour about Nicole. I think she cried to production about not being on, but I don’t think they’d can Derrick and Dan for pregaming, since most returnees pregame, and some even make deals to split money in the house. They did it in All Stars 1.

Nicole could have exposed their alliance, causing them to voluntarily drop out. It’s a shame there’s no Dan, but Derrick is one of the most overrated winners, and he’s just not that entertaining.

I don’t wish Covid on anyone. But if any two were to drop out without making much of a difference, it’d be Kaycee and Josh. I’ve heard Kaycee didn’t do much her season till the end. Josh is the worst winner.

Hayden is boring. Paul might have been interesting. Reyes, I still have hope. But none of the BIG names seem to be dropping, aside from maybe Reyes, and Paul.
 

manmythlegend

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I don’t believe in the rumour about Nicole. I think she cried to production about not being on, but I don’t think they’d can Derrick and Dan for pregaming, since most returnees pregame, and some even make deals to split money in the house. They did it in All Stars 1.

Nicole could have exposed their alliance, causing them to voluntarily drop out. It’s a shame there’s no Dan, but Derrick is one of the most overrated winners, and he’s just not that entertaining.

I don’t wish Covid on anyone. But if any two were to drop out without making much of a difference, it’d be Kaycee and Josh. I’ve heard Kaycee didn’t do much her season till the end. Josh is the worst winner.

Hayden is boring. Paul might have been interesting. Reyes, I still have hope. But none of the BIG names seem to be dropping, aside from maybe Reyes, and Paul.

It's just not much of an all-star season. Most of these people are not All-Stars especially if no Hayden, Derrick, Dan.
 

Brer Oswald

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It's just not much of an all-star season. Most of these people are not All-Stars especially if no Hayden, Derrick, Dan.
Look at the first All Stars. Your only winner is Will. The special thing about Will is that he’s always putting on a show. He’d come up with lines to say specifically for the show. You don’t get that anymore, especially not with people like Hayden, Derrick or Kaycee. Dan would do stuff like that, so it’s a shame he’s not there.

I’m terms of smart game players, you had Danielle, Alison, Boogie, Diane(?), Nakomis, And Erika(?). It’s debatable whether some of these people belonged on All Stars. They all kind of fit in this category. Danielle and Alison did. Erika And Boogie probably not, but Boogie surprised everyone played a good game.

Then you have Janelle, James, And Kaysar as the likeable competitors from the most recent season at the time. Some of the greatest characters in the show’s history.

Chicken George, Howie, And Marcella’s as the over the top comic relief characters.

And Jace is somewhere in the middle.

Overall, based on good gameplay and entertainment value, I think everyone except Erika, Jace, And maybe Chicken George deserved to be on All Stars.

Let’s look at the current rumoured cast. Janelle, Kaysar, And Daniele Donato speak for themselves. I’ve heard good things about Tyler and Nicole A. Da’Vonne And Enzo are memorable characters. Ian will always be remembered because of his allegiance to Dan, and his win being the underdog on that season. Nicole F shouldn’t be on, but they’ve shoved her down our throats so much that we all recognize her. Idk Bayleigh. Amber, Cody and David are certainly not All Stars. Memphis And Danielle Reyes are huge Question marks.

Those are about 15 names, but I’ll make it 13 cause I don’t know about the last two.
8/13 All Stars. That’s pretty decent, as long as everyone else we don’t know about is also a memorable character, or a great game player. Remember, the best player doesn’t always win.
 

manmythlegend

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Look at the first All Stars. Your only winner is Will. The special thing about Will is that he’s always putting on a show. He’d come up with lines to say specifically for the show. You don’t get that anymore, especially not with people like Hayden, Derrick or Kaycee. Dan would do stuff like that, so it’s a shame he’s not there.

I’m terms of smart game players, you had Danielle, Alison, Boogie, Diane(?), Nakomis, And Erika(?). It’s debatable whether some of these people belonged on All Stars. They all kind of fit in this category. Danielle and Alison did. Erika And Boogie probably not, but Boogie surprised everyone played a good game.

Then you have Janelle, James, And Kaysar as the likeable competitors from the most recent season at the time. Some of the greatest characters in the show’s history.

Chicken George, Howie, And Marcella’s as the over the top comic relief characters.

And Jace is somewhere in the middle.

Overall, based on good gameplay and entertainment value, I think everyone except Erika, Jace, And maybe Chicken George deserved to be on All Stars.

Let’s look at the current rumoured cast. Janelle, Kaysar, And Daniele Donato speak for themselves. I’ve heard good things about Tyler and Nicole A. Da’Vonne And Enzo are memorable characters. Ian will always be remembered because of his allegiance to Dan, and his win being the underdog on that season. Nicole F shouldn’t be on, but they’ve shoved her down our throats so much that we all recognize her. Idk Bayleigh. Amber, Cody and David are certainly not All Stars. Memphis And Danielle Reyes are huge Question marks.

Those are about 15 names, but I’ll make it 13 cause I don’t know about the last two.
8/13 All Stars. That’s pretty decent, as long as everyone else we don’t know about is also a memorable character, or a great game player. Remember, the best player doesn’t always win.

I get what you're saying, there are still some good players. But I'm not sure why BB struggles to attract the huge names whereas when Jeff Probst calls for Survivor, they almost always say yes.
 

Brer Oswald

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I get what you're saying, there are still some good players. But I'm not sure why BB struggles to attract the huge names whereas when Jeff Probst calls for Survivor, they almost always say yes.
Big Brother is a much longer time commitment than Big Brother. That’s why people like Dr swill don’t ever want to do it again. All this talk about “legacy” doesn’t mean crap. Hence why Will wanted to go out before Jury in All Stars.
 

Little Green Men

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Wow really? I mean it's okay given what's going on in the world. But quite a few weak players in there. And very few OGs. Seems like they were mainly going for players from recent seasons.

BB All-Stars 1 cast destroys this one, IMO.
Really? Chicken George, Boogie, Marcellas, Erika, and Jase really had no business being on. Christmas and David are very questionable but the rest are good.
 

Brer Oswald

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Wow really? I mean it's okay given what's going on in the world. But quite a few weak players in there. And very few OGs. Seems like they were mainly going for players from recent seasons.

BB All-Stars 1 cast destroys this one, IMO.
That’s 7 Pre Season 14. More than the 3 max we were expecting.

Really? Chicken George, Boogie, Marcellas, Erika, and Jase really had no business being on. Christmas and David are very questionable but the rest are good.
Season 1s cast does destroy this one. You have Dr Will, the best male to play the game. Janelle And Danielle, the best females to play the game. America’s Favorite, Kaysar. The strangest and most interesting character they’ve ever casted, Howie. James Rhine, who I really like. Alison, Nakomis, And Diane, all great females. The over the top Marcellas. And Boogie, who was extremely entertaining with Will. The made a great villains team.

Erika was furniture till the end. She didn’t need to be there. Jace did nothing but throw tantrums. And Chicken George didn’t need to be there, but he was fairly funny.
 

Little Green Men

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Well if we're just basing on their first seasons then
Boogie- won first HOH and his pawn went home, his alliance was immediately picked off and he left fourth.
Marcellas- made one of the worst moves in BB history by not vetoing himself
Kaysar- trusted the opposite alliance and gave away HOH and was evicted as a result
Howie- Nominated his own alliance and gave the opposite side the numbers
We agree on George, Jase, and Erika already. Thats half the cast that wasn't really deserving but still managed to make a good season.
 

Brer Oswald

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Well if we're just basing on their first seasons then
Boogie- won first HOH and his pawn went home, his alliance was immediately picked off and he left fourth.
Marcellas- made one of the worst moves in BB history by not vetoing himself
Kaysar- trusted the opposite alliance and gave away HOH and was evicted as a result
Howie- Nominated his own alliance and gave the opposite side the numbers
We agree on George, Jase, and Erika already. Thats half the cast that wasn't really deserving but still managed to make a good season.
An All Star doesn’t mean you have to be successful at the game. It was always just memorable players/characters from previous seasons. Most of the players in Season 1 were memorable characters. Good TV.

There’s a lot less this round. But it’s not as bad as I feared.
 

Little Green Men

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An All Star doesn’t mean you have to be successful at the game. It was always just memorable players/characters from previous seasons. Most of the players in Season 1 were memorable characters. Good TV. There’s a lot less this round. But it’s not as bad as I feared.
That’s fair but we do have a dynamic cast imo. In order from most to least deserving:
Tyler- The Danielle Reyes of modern bb. One of the best strategists and arguably the best of the last four seasons who many feel was robbed plus won AFP.
Janelle- one of the most memorable players, a comp beast and highly entertaining.
Dani D- Great player overshadowed by her dad. Made final 2 her first season, made BB13 more interesting by turning on the vets.
Keesha- highly entertaining for her cat fights, great social strategy, good at comps.
Ian- a previous winner, beat who people consider one of the best players of all time.
Enzo- was a great strategist, created one of the most successful alliances of all time and only won one comp cuz he didn’t need to win.
Nicole A- A fan favorite, made it through despite a house gang up on her early on and maneuvered her way into the majority alliance making final 3 and winning AFP.
Memphis- Dans original partner in crime, survived against all odds week four and made finale. Won a lot of povs and helped dan.
Cody- part of the hitmen with Derrick basically The Renegades 2.0.
Kevin- Made top 3, famous for turning Jeff on his ally Russell with a lie and then evicting Jeff the next week. Likely would’ve won the game if he made F2.
Nicole F- two time player winning on her second time playing. Managed to last despite having lots of people badmouthing and targetting her.
Da’Vonne- highly memorable, the first returnee to be evicted week 2. Managed to successfully put targets on Tiffany and Frank her second time. Prob lasts longer if not for Paulie getting Paul to put her up. Very memorable for her Nicole rivalry and still voting for her to win plus her jury fight with Paulie.
Bayleigh- Memorable for being a big personality, her fight with Tyler and her alliance being blindsided all prejury. She’s the first HG engaged at finale AND ACTUALLY MARRYING HER FIANCÉ.
Kaysar- Americas fav, memorable for sealing your partners fate and going from the minority to a solid six person alliance.
David-given a bum deal being evicted by competition day 1. Had great insight in the game when he returned and managed to see who was running the game and with who. Could be very interesting to play.
Christmas- Prob the biggest oddity but to be fair she did make final 3 her first season despite having a broken leg. Seemed like a real competitor if not for her injury and will be interesting to see play for real.
 

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