Big Big News!!!!!!!!

[Mary Poppins]

Originally posted by T1nker_Bell
Roy cannot come back, he has reached the age limit to be on the board. I was born in 1985, so I never knew of a time when Eisner was not running the show. My parents tell me quality has gone down on many things. However, any leader who allows Hariss to run Disneyland (she was part of THREE major accidents!!!), is a bit dissapointing. I respect what Disney is saying, however, this will hurt economic confidence in the Disney Company.. stocks will go down.

The rule has been waived for the past two years for current board members. If it can be waived for them then it can certainly be waived for the man whose name is shared with the company. I think this might have been a way to get rid of someone so opposed to ME.

I agree with Kevin, he had more power within the company than outside of it. But he could have a plan. As Kevin said, the media attention just might make Eisner quit.

Or perhaps at his age, Disney is just tired of all of it. But he has to be pretty tired of it to throw in the towel to his family's business.

But everyone has their own limits...perhaps Disney has just reached his...regardless of the consequences. It's a shame.

I actually think now he can speak more freely about ME and the way he is now running the company.

 

[mikeb_86]

This is shocking gust so shocking, anyone know if he still in the other things like at the parks.

"Let's not forget one thing it all started with Walt Disney"

mikeb_86

 

[orlpassholder]

I just hope for one name Walter Elias Disney Miller

 

[Marijil]

Originally posted by mac388
Thanks to the person who posted the complete letter!

I don't think that I could have said what Roy wrote any better. He is completely right. Instead of looking at Disney as a feel-good company, it is now looked at as a manipulative corporate conglomerate.
In addition to the suggestions made above, there also need to be improvements to:
1. Cast Member hiring. Cast Member morale is low, since Disney can no longer afford to be selective in their hiring process. At WDW, they have increasingly brought in third party contractors to do work. In August, the construction workers on Thunder Mountain were standing on the bricks, smoking as the WDW Railroad went by! I'm tired of seeing Cast Members at Super Wal-Mart with their costumes dirty and hanging out, shopping after work. That kinda ruins the magic, ya know!
2. Park Upkeep. This isn't just something that us Disney freaks notice. I had a long talk with Guests about how they noticed paint peeling, water fountains not working, and food getting worse. If you've been to the buffets at any location, you may have noticed how they are ALL the same now and offer the same, low cost, cheap to make food. I said it before, I notice paint peeling and trash in the parks not being picked up. I'm no longer a CM, but when I go I still find myself tidying up...that shouldn't have to happen.
3. Better Merchandise. See above, where the Disney Store CM talks about the plastic nonsense they are forced to sell.

Sorry about the rant...but Roy leaving is a shock and wake up call. I'm going to try to be optimistic and hope for the best....Roy did this back in 1984...hopefully he is seeking out a new CEO privately like he did back then.

I just got back, 20 min ago....this is very well said..and one other thing, sorry for the drift...there is no more preservation of the magic and mystique....i was with my 9 yera old and we had to leave mk while wishes was starting.....a cast member directed us behind the Plaza restaurant.....to what was, as im sure u cast members know...is the back of main street, drab bldgs parking etc..i was with my 9 year old who i made close her eyes...what a disgrace...walt would be furious with that bs

 

[mrtoad]

I did not have time to read all the responses, so please forgive me if I am stating what has been stated.

From what I have read Roy and Michael have had problems for years. So that part is not a shock.

I hope that Eisner goes. I am glad he came because he did save the company but the problem was he changed it as well. Some change was welcome, some not. As much as I love to go the WDW (If I could afford to go or could convince my wife, it would be our only vacation spot), it is not the same as it use to be. Money is the motivating factor not hapiness. I understand that money has to be one of the motivating factors, but you can still make money without cutting corners or changing values. Disney was always a "family" company, now it is a "let's make a boat load of money" company. I hope the change would put the wheels in motion to bring back those values.

As I stated, I love Disney and will always want to visit WDW whenever I can, but I hope things get reversed a few decades in terms of being family oriented.

 

[mac388]

Originally posted by Marijil
I just got back, 20 min ago....this is very well said..and one other thing, sorry for the drift...there is no more preservation of the magic and mystique....i was with my 9 yera old and we had to leave mk while wishes was starting.....a cast member directed us behind the Plaza restaurant.....to what was, as im sure u cast members know...is the back of main street, drab bldgs parking etc..i was with my 9 year old who i made close her eyes...what a disgrace...walt would be furious with that bs

Yes-Walt would be completely furious with that. When I was a CM and saw this happening, I couldn't believe it. Guests looked lost, and amazed that they were being walked out this way. THey said it was for better crowd control, but there are other ways to have this happen.
Putting trees and green tarp up to hide the CM's smoking is not enough. Arrghh.

 

[Marijil]

Originally posted by MKCustodial
Well, today's Jim Hill column evidently covers the subject, and he seems to have interesting news regarding Eisner leaving.

where do i find this

 

[jmarc63]

Originally posted by Gregory
Damn!!

(Sorry about that... )

Anyways... I just heard that, and rushed here... I knew this thread had to be about that...

I havn't had time to read the article, but wow...

At least something might be done about Michael...

Just for the record, I think that Michael has done some wonderful things.. but since Frank Wells died, it hasn't been the same...

I don't know much about Roy... I don't know if he was more like Walt, or more like Michael.. I just know that there are going to be some big changes...

I've already got my resume dusted off, ready to go if Michael desides to leave

I hate to say this but I think That it was Frank Wells that was the real brains behind the things, Eisner was just a manager. Disney even stated that Eisner tries to Micro-manage things.

Eisner's just a manager that got the credit for things Him and Frank Wells started before Well's death , then had to continue to produce . So we got what Roy Disney stated as "Built on the cheap" just to produce product.

The example is the "Off the shelf" rides constructed with window dressing that IMO dont meet standards.

 

[barnum42]

I have to join the masses applauding Roy for his letter and supporting what he said 100% and I hope Eisner sees sense and calls it a day too.

If Roy still has the desire to keep going on the board then he should be welcomed back once Eisner is gone. If not, then I wish him a long happy retirement. Though one would suspect he would still be involved with the company in some capacity.

 

[Tim G]

Re: Re: Big Big News!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by imagineer boy
Whoa...... I never thought things would come to this.

I saw it coming...
R.E. has been warning for this for over a year now...
I must admit R.E. never could run the WDC properly... i.e. he has set foot in Imagineering exactly once, he's proud of being a Disney.. but that's about it... he's a bad business man and proved it in the days before 1984, when Eisner was hired as CEO (in the early '80s, Disney was nearly taken over by corporate raiders and sold off in pieces).
We simply can't go back to the old days, the days of "everything is possible" there is just need for another CEO.
There's a whole lot more behind this letter than about running the WDC, there are a lot of personal things as well...
And I agree, Michael should leave the WDC... he has been cutting everything more and more, including Imagineering and Feature Animation for a long time...
R.E. is just the first who got up from is chair and opened his mouth...

And If R.E. really leaves?? well ehmm... There not much magic about R.E. (and never has been), except the name Disney...
But we still need a "Disney name" in the WDC but not as CEO...

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the end of the Eisner era!:sohappy: But I am very dispointed that Roy has given up and is leaving though...

It isn't august 2004 YET...

 

[Tim G]

Originally posted by Marijil
where do i find this

http://www.jimhillmedia.com/legacy/index.htm?../articles/12012003.1.htm~contentFrame<br%20/>

 

[Shaman]

!? This is a surprise!

With Pressler and Harris out...Eisner could easily be the next person fired/resigned. Roy could simply be "resigning" to shed some light into the often hush hush confrontations between the board and Eisner. Stockholders would immediately turn there attention to Eisner and begin to question his leadership. It wouldn't surprise me, if Eisner resigns soon and Roy is called upon to be Chairman and CEO.

Eisner sure saved the company in the 80s...but with power comes corruption...something is definetly not right when people like Roy Disney don't see eye to eye with Eisner...and Roy isn't the only one...there are others who can't stand Eisner (ex. Steven Spielberg). One can only assume why.

I hope Roy isn't gone for good, and most importantly that a new CEO can returns THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY back to its heritage.

Should be interesting to see what happens....

 

[Carrousel Lover]

Stanley Gold to exit Disney board

2:08pm 12/01/03
Stanley Gold to exit Disney board (DIS) By Jon Friedman
NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- Stanley Gold on Monday told the Walt Disney (DIS) board that he is stepping down as a company director. In a letter to the directors, Gold cited his frustration with an "insular" board at Disney. On Sunday, Roy Disney, nephew of legendary Disney founder Walt Disney, said he was leaving the board. At the same time, Roy Disney also called for Disney Chairman Michael Eisner to resign, citing Walt Disney's often sub-par stock-market record over the past seven years. Disney shares rose 6 cents to $23.15 in Monday trading.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

Originally posted by objr
and Roy isn't the only one...there are others who can't stand Eisner (ex. Steven Spielberg)

Don't forget George Lucas, Pixar, Miramax, and the cable companies distributing Disney's products!

Go away Eisner! Your greedy times are over!



:fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork:

 

[Shaman]

Re: Stanley Gold to exit Disney board

Originally posted by Carrousel Lover
2:08pm 12/01/03
Stanley Gold to exit Disney board (DIS) By Jon Friedman
NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- Stanley Gold on Monday told the Walt Disney (DIS) board that he is stepping down as a company director. In a letter to the directors, Gold cited his frustration with an "insular" board at Disney. On Sunday, Roy Disney, nephew of legendary Disney founder Walt Disney, said he was leaving the board. At the same time, Roy Disney also called for Disney Chairman Michael Eisner to resign, citing Walt Disney's often sub-par stock-market record over the past seven years. Disney shares rose 6 cents to $23.15 in Monday trading.

In the words of the wise TIMON...."WHATS GOING ON HERE!?"

:lookaroun :zipit:

 

[Carrousel Lover]

miceage has the resignation letter of Gold

Stanley Gold's resignation letter

I found the following letter closing very interesting as it is a "recent" policy re not communicating with people. Also I was curious by the specific reg rules that the letters be made public on his and Roy's letters. Does that mean if they did not specifically write this it could not be made public??

"Perhaps acting independently, from outside the Boardroom, not hamstrung by a recently enacted Board policy barring Board members from communicating with shareholders and the media, I can have greater success in shaping the policies, practices and operations of Disney than I had as a member of the Board.

In accordance with Item 6 of Form 8-K and Item 7 of Schedule 14A, I request that you disclose this letter and that you file a copy of this letter as an exhibit to a Company Form 8-K. "

 

[smilez4011]

Stanley's resignation letter is much more detailed regarding the reasons for his actions and I beleive it to makes a tremendous point. I'm just hoping that all this will end on a positive note for the company we all cherish and love.

 

[mrtoad]

Originally posted by Marijil
I just got back, 20 min ago....this is very well said..and one other thing, sorry for the drift...there is no more preservation of the magic and mystique....i was with my 9 yera old and we had to leave mk while wishes was starting.....a cast member directed us behind the Plaza restaurant.....to what was, as im sure u cast members know...is the back of main street, drab bldgs parking etc..i was with my 9 year old who i made close her eyes...what a disgrace...walt would be furious with that bs

I agree, that is bad. I read that recently here on another post. I could not believe it.

I had read something a long time ago. Once when Walt was in Disneyland he saw a cast member from one of lands in another land on the way to their dressing area. The reason being was the only way to get there was to walk through the park. So when he was planning the Magic Kingdom he had the Utildors designed so that everyone could travel unseen.

So to have guest travel backstage, especially children makes no sense. If you need to build routes backstage for guests to travel during high traffic of guests, build them right. It is not like Disney does not have the money to do it. They should stop skimping and go back to what made the place magical to begin with.

 

[joefox97]

If any of you want to do a bit of deeper reading on the subject and really get a feel for who Mike Eisner is and where things have gone, as well as a great look at how things have gone since 1984, go to the library or bookstore and pick up "Keys to the Kingdom" by Kim Masters. This book is a biography of Michael Eisner from birth, to ABC, to Paramount and then Disney - it's full of insider information, Hollywood tidbits that you won't find elsewhere and a great insight into the Man who truly holds the Keys to the Kingdom.

Masters paints a great portrait of the greedy and somewhat tempestuous individual that is Michael Eisner -- and more importantly, gives you insight into why he's that way and where his behaviors came from.

 

[bobfan]

Eisner

On both the European and the American forums, Michael eisner is blamed for all what went wrong inside the Disney Company. Let us not forget that whitout Eisner and his team, there would be no MGM-studios, no Disneyland Paris, no Animal Kingdom, no Lion King, no Finding Nemo, no Brother Bear, not over 12 oscars last year, etc.
The fact is that even Roy Disney doesn't deny the merits of M.E. The only thing he blames him is his narrow focus on the short-term profit. But this last thing isn't the fault of M.E., but of the times we are living in. Today it's almost impossible to satisfy your shareholders with long-term perspectives. Shareholders want their profit as soon and as high as possible, if not, they sell their stocks, leaving you with the debts and your big plans.
That M.E. after september 11th has succeed in the revaluation of the Disney shares, and that in times of a severe economic depression, is almost a miracle. In less then one year the value of the Disney shares is increased in value with over 40%. Whitout this short-term gains, the Disney Company would probably have been the victim of a merger or take over like Universal of Time Warner. And discussions like this would no longer be necessary.
Let's give Eisner some credit, if you in your life could achieve 1/10 of the merits of Eisner, you would ask the same