Being Drunk in the World

[Santa Raccoon 77]

Good lord.

On a scale of 1 to Corona, show me on the doll where the drunk threw up on you, @CaptainAmerica.

This is ridculous. Teetotalers are going to overreact. Lushes are going to minimize.

We don't really need to start cataloging any of this.

I'm teetotal and am happy to keep the drinking at drunkot.

 

[MaryJaneP]

Freedom to drink does not mean freedom of consequences when you overdrink. It would require some kind of pre-admission testing that probably does not exist now to see if a guest is susceptible to poor behavior. Closest proxy seems to be price increases.

 

[UncleMike101]

Freedom to drink does not mean freedom of consequences when you overdrink. It would require some kind of pre-admission testing that probably does not exist now to see if a guest is susceptible to poor behavior. Closest proxy seems to be price increases.

Well......
If you're thinking that a price increase will keep the drunken sots out I'm afraid you're quite wrong.
I know an awful lot of people who have more money than brains and the reason that they don't pay the consequences for their excessive drinking and other similar offenses, is that "Mr Green" takes care of their problems.

 

[xdan0920]

Just got back from a trip to beautiful Hershey Park. Only one place in the park to buy a beer. And a very limited selection at that. It was a bummer. There was also many unruly guests. Since there's no place to drink, I don't know what to blame it on?

 

[Willmark]

Just got back from a trip to beautiful Hershey Park. Only one place in the park to buy a beer. And a very limited selection at that. It was a bummer. There was also many unruly guests. Since there's no place to drink, I don't know what to blame it on?

People suck?

 

[Texas84]

I was at Epcot over the holiday weekend and did not encounter even one loud annoying person at F&G. Very unusual.

 

[MAGICFLOP]

I have dealt with people my whole life (busy retail)

1 in 10 are jerks
1 in 25 are sphincters
1 in 100 are AA sphincters
1 in 1000 are the real deal AAA whole..

So do the numbers in Disney attendance and that is who is walking around at any given time...

Bottom line is, most people are pretty cool.. so you can't focus on a handful and let them ruin your day..

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I have dealt with people my whole life (busy retail)

1 in 10 are jerks
1 in 25 are sphincters
1 in 100 are AA sphincters
1 in 1000 are the real deal AAA whole..

So do the numbers in Disney attendance and that is who is walking around at any given time...

Bottom line is, most people are pretty cool.. so you can't focus on a handful and let them ruin your day..

That’s a very generous assessment.

 

[21stamps]

I have dealt with people my whole life (busy retail)

1 in 10 are jerks
1 in 25 are sphincters
1 in 100 are AA sphincters
1 in 1000 are the real deal AAA whole..

So do the numbers in Disney attendance and that is who is walking around at any given time...

Bottom line is, most people are pretty cool.. so you can't focus on a handful and let them ruin your day..

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

Popular opinion you don't get to tell me or anybody else what to do. I've been to Disney 50 plus times and I've never noticed a major problem. I haven't been in a few years so maybe everything has gone to hell but I doubt it.

I'd rather they get rid of scooters... Much more annoying since they think they can run you over

Spoiler: Disney has a problem with these in its parks?

 

[Chef Mickey]

Just got back from a trip to beautiful Hershey Park. Only one place in the park to buy a beer. And a very limited selection at that. It was a bummer. There was also many unruly guests. Since there's no place to drink, I don't know what to blame it on?

Idiots, but you can't ban them. You can only limit things like alcohol that make them even more idiot prone.

 

[John park hopper]

Someone answer this--- if Disney allows people to drink to the point they are intoxicated (don't know the what the blood alcohol level is in FL)and they leave the parks via their own vehicle and cause an accident with injuries or death is Disney libel ?

 

[LUVofDIS]

A shame we can't send you high and mighty anti-booze people back to the age of prohibition were you belong.

Careful, if this happens prohibition might have won.

 

[crxbrett]

Someone answer this--- if Disney allows people to drink to the point they are intoxicated (don't know the what the blood alcohol level is in FL)and they leave the parks via their own vehicle and cause an accident with injuries or death is Disney libel ?

Dram Shop Laws
FL dram shop laws

On a very technical level - yes. But would any court of law find them liable in almost any circumstance? The answer is no. I know in CA a bar/restaurant/3rd party can not be held responsible for a drunk person's actions after they leave. The laws vary from state-to-state, but on the whole, Disney would probably never be held liable in such a case. According to the page I linked from above in direct relation to FL's laws:

"In an effort to further dissuade drunk driving in Florida, ours is one of a number of states which have dram shop laws. The name comes from the unit of measure, or dram, in which alcohol was previously sold. Dram shop laws allow business establishments, such as restaurants, bars, and nightclubs, to be held liable for damages when drunk driving accidents occur. Under Section 768.125 of the Florida Statutes, these laws are limited in scope, and apply only to the following:

• Those who willfully and knowingly serve alcohol to anyone under the drinking age;
• Those who knowingly serve people who are “habitually addicted” to alcohol.

In the case of a drunk driver over the age of 21, you would need to show medical records indicating a history of alcohol abuse or a past history of arrest for alcohol related violations, and you would also need to show that the business owner, manager, or employees were aware that the customer they were serving had a drinking problem."

 

[21stamps]

Someone answer this--- if Disney allows people to drink to the point they are intoxicated (don't know the what the blood alcohol level is in FL)and they leave the parks via their own vehicle and cause an accident with injuries or death is Disney libel ?

No way, Not unless that person is under 21.

 

[21stamps]

Dram Shop Laws
FL dram shop laws

On a very technical level - yes. But would any court of law find them liable in almost any circumstance? The answer is no. I know in CA a bar/restaurant/3rd party can not be held responsible for a drunk person's actions after they leave. The laws vary from state-to-state, but on the whole, Disney would probably never be held liable in such a case.

Not even on a technical level. They would not have any responsibility whatsoever.
Also, most likely these people are not drinking in the same spot, being served by the same bartender, which makes it even more than “none whatsoever”.

 

[TimOUFC]

I'm a Brit, which as you know, implies that upon entering the world from my Mother I was immediately hooked up to an intravenous supply of pure alcohol. Reading this thread, from that perspective and as a long time regular visitor and lover of WDW has been absolutely fascinating.

As others have said, when we visit the parks, we are on our hard earned holiday vacation, we now always tend to come in October so that we can enjoy the F&W at Epcot. One of the great draws is not just the great food, but the fact that it's like the BEST pub crawl, where you can sample alcoholic beverages from every country. Like most decent people though I would say we would recognisze the correct moment to stop. Being drunk, tipsy, merry (whatever you call it) is a nice feeling, let's be honest and why I drink alcohol, and it enhances the experience.

The reason this debate is so fevered, is that Disneyworld IS a magical place. When I first took my kids there I had the vision you see in all of the marketing, an impossibly cute family in a beautiful empty MK street with joy exuding from every orifice. What I never imagined in that utopian vision was Barney lurking behind the bin with body fluid exuding from every orifice in a tirade of profanity. It detracts from the magic and what our vision of of the day was.

All on this post that have preached tolerance up to the point where enjoyment of others is comprimiszed have it nailed on, and from my experience, that is the the fine balance that Disney is finding well. Please don't deny me my right to enjoy my magical experience my way.

 

[jakeman]

I'm teetotal and am happy to keep the drinking at drunkot.

You know me...I'm more worried about the quality of the beer than the location.

 

[monothingie]

This again? Don't go during Jersey Week.

 

[dieboy]

Remember back when you had to go over to downtown disney to drink?

This is an impossible argument really.

You can argue, if a guest is disturbing your experience (drunk or not), they are rude and something should be done. You can also argue, every guest, drunk or not is disturbing your experience.

Also .. .. .. .. I've seen more rude and obnoxious behavior from guests who were NOT intoxicated .. .. .. So theres that.

As Disney adds more quick services/restaurants/stands that offer alcohol, they should equally step up security monitoring, and foot patrols. Its pretty much simple as that. Identify and remove unruly guests immediately.

But current state Disney .. do they really care? The handful of disruptive drunks won't stop people from visiting. Sure they will talk about it, but the reality is, they will probably come back.