Bad decisions, not Microsoft, hurt Disney

cherrynegra

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SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER
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Bad decisions, not Microsoft, hurt Disney

Tuesday, April 12, 2005

By BILL VIRGIN
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER COLUMNIST

Long before he became the pinup boy for overpaid, out-of-touch and manipulative corporate executives, Walt Disney Co. CEO Michael Eisner had his eye on one company he saw as a potential major rival in the entertainment business.

"Microsoft may be our most daunting competitor," Eisner wrote in his 1998 book, "Work in Progress."

Microsoft at that point didn't have much of a track record in the entertainment business, but Eisner (speaking in a teleconference to reporters) was concerned that Microsoft's cash flow, aggressiveness, buying power and youth -- not to mention its interest in entertainment -- made Bill Gates "a competitor to be watched."

Just add it to the list of things that Disney and Eisner got wrong.

There's a new book out on Disney -- James B. Stewart's "DisneyWar" -- that chronicles the events leading up to news last month that Eisner will later this year leave the company he has run for two decades.

What's interesting about that book is that Microsoft figures as barely more than a footnote to the action. Gates gets even less ink -- there's a reference to an embattled Eisner suggesting that he could eventually relinquish the CEO title but become chairman and chief creative officer (much as Gates is chairman and chief software architect for Microsoft).

Instead, "DisneyWar" does an effective job of chronicling how the biggest threat to Disney's success was not external competitors (including those marginally in the entertainment business, such as Microsoft), but its own remarkable accumulation of bad decisions about a business it was supposed to know.

"Lord of the Rings?" We'll pass. "CSI?" Not for us. "Survivor?" Not interested. (Disney's ABC also had a chance to do "The Apprentice" but haggled over price to the point that the show was chased to NBC.) "The Sixth Sense" is a hit? That's good, since we produced it -- except we already sold the profit rights to that movie, so we'll only be getting a distribution fee.

Accompanying that record -- and maybe a root cause -- was Eisner's own management style, which featured constant belittling of personnel (to their faces and behind their backs) and what Stewart bluntly terms his "tendency to distort, embellish or forget the truth."

Lost in the long-running corporate soap opera of Disney is the competition with Microsoft that turned out not to be. It's useful to take a look at why that competition never occurred.

Eisner wasn't wrong to be concerned about Microsoft's intentions in the entertainment business in 1998. Indeed it would have been imprudent for a CEO in just about every industry to neglect wondering what the Behemoth of Redmond might be up to. Bankers, for example, saw the integration of Microsoft Money and online financial services as the first step toward Bill Gates National Bank.

Disney's strategic response was to build a portal -- an Internet home through which consumers could access all sorts of information, entertainment and commerce, all powered by Disney. To accomplish that, Disney in 1997 bought Web site developer Starwave from Paul Allen, then in 1998 swapped Starwave for a stake in Infoseek.

Together they produced Go.com, which was to be the Disney portal; Disney even issued a tracking stock based on Go.com designed to capture the crazed prices for Internet-related stocks.

It didn't work. Stewart notes that Disney poured millions into the venture before buying back Go Network shares and taking a massive write-off on its Internet venture.

But it wasn't Microsoft that proved the greatest problem for Disney. Stewart notes that Disney lacked a coherent strategy for melding a "motley collection of assets" into a unified Internet presence. It also started far behind Yahoo! and AOL and couldn't catch up.

Over that same period, meanwhile, in the entertainment industry Microsoft was accomplishing ... not much.

It has had a few successes, making itself a player in the video-game business.

But its cable television news ventures trail Fox and CNN. In the music distribution realm it's Apple that leads the way.

As for portals and search, MSN is just one of a crowd of competitors trying to catch Google, which wasn't even on Eisner's or anyone else's radar in 1998.

In the 1998 interview, Eisner said his competitive concerns weren't allayed by the lack of a big hit in entertainment for Microsoft. The company had started slowly in other businesses and eventually became successful, he said.

That didn't happen for Microsoft and entertainment. It may never happen. But that wasn't any help for Disney, or Eisner's tenure at the company or his legacy.

The lesson of what's in and not in the book may be this: It's always advisable to have a sense of what competitors -- especially competitors with the resources of Microsoft -- are up to. But if you've made a mess of your own company, it really doesn't matter what your competitor succeeds in doing -- or fails at.
 

Woody13

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It's very obvious that Mr.Virgin does not know much about the subject. Perhaps he chose that NonDePlume for a good reason. Or, perhaps that is his real name. In either case he is not well informed but seems to be rather one who decided to jump on the truck with the other turnips.
 

DisneyFan 2000

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Woody13 said:
It's very obvious that Mr.Virgin does not know much about the subject. Perhaps he chose that NonDePlume for a good reason. Or, perhaps that is his real name. In either case he is not well informed but seems to be rather one who decided to jump on the truck with the other turnips.

Have you ever disagreed with something big Eisner has done or said? :brick:
 

Woody13

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DisneyFan 2000 said:
Have you ever disagreed with something big Eisner has done or said? :brick:

Rarely. But that's because I have the special discount AP for WDW that requires compulsory attendance on Michael Eisner's birthday. :p
 

Mr. Eggz

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Woody13 said:
It's very obvious that Mr.Virgin does not know much about the subject. Perhaps he chose that NonDePlume for a good reason. Or, perhaps that is his real name. In either case he is not well informed but seems to be rather one who decided to jump on the truck with the other turnips.

The only thing that is obvious is that you do not know much about the subject.
 

Mr. Eggz

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Woody13 said:
Care to share your empirical knowledge? :wave:

I can't find anything wrong with the article. You seem completely comfortable accusing Mr.Virgin of being uninformed without backing up your claims. I think the burden of proof is on you.

Find one thing in the article that is untrue.
 

Woody13

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Mr. Eggz said:
I can't find anything wrong with the article. You seem completely comfortable accusing Mr.Virgin of being uninformed without backing up your claims. I think the burden of proof is on you.

Find one thing in the article that is untrue.

"Microsoft at that point didn't have much of a track record in the entertainment business..."

Next?
 

Woody13

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Mr. Eggz said:
No, a telegraph. What does my using a computer have to do with Mircosoft beingin competition with TWDC?

Because most entertainment you see now and certainly all in the future will depend upon Microsoft. Are you familiar with Internet 2?
 

Mr. Eggz

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Woody13 said:
Because most entertainment you see now and certainly all in the future will depend upon Microsoft. Are you familiar with Internet 2?

The merits of this statement are somewhat subjective, and not at issue. I thought you delt in empirical information. The statement you pulled out as untrue said, Microsoft at that point had not proven itself in the entertainment industry.
 

Woody13

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Mr. Eggz said:
The merits of this statement are somewhat subjective, and not at issue. I thought you delt in empirical information. The statement you pulled out as untrue said, Microsoft at that point had not proven itself in the entertainment industry.

Well, that brings us right back to, do you use a computer? Mr. Virgin obviously does not know about how the entertainment industry works and the impact of digital (as opposed to analog) data storage and transfer. When you can compact a full length movie into a 2 second transfer, that's the power Microsoft has had for many years!
 

Mr. Eggz

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Woody13 said:
Well, that brings us right back to, do you use a computer? Mr. Virgin obviously does not know about how the entertainment industry works and the impact of digital (as opposed to analog) data storage and transfer. When you can compact a full length movie into a 2 second transfer, that's the power Microsoft has had for many years!

Michael Eisner is fond of saying "Content is King." So, are you suggesting that he is wrong, that the power lies not in the ability to create marketable content but the ability to compress any contant?

I remind you again, the quote you pulled out included the phrase "at the time," I further point out that Mirosoft has not made this technology widely available to the average consumer...and less then half of the U.S. uses the internet or a computer, and a much smaller percentage of the world. Where is your emerical evidance that Mr. Virgin's statment that in 1998 Mircosoft had already made a significant entrance into the Entertainment industry? You talk about the technology they have or what you believ they will one day do in the future, but you've said nothing about their role in the entertainment industry in 1998. I thought you were going to prove Mr. Virgin to be uninformed?

Wether or not mirosoft could one day rule the world is not at issue. The thesis of Mr. Virgin's article is stated clearly in the title. He is suggesting that Disney has gone through considerable upheaval in the past seven years (do you disagree?) and the cause of this turmoil did not come from external copetition (likie Mircosoft) but from its own internal problems. Mircosoft someday could still prove to be Disney's biggest competition, but that will be irrelevant to Mr. Eisner, who like Ceaser failed to pay attention to his problems at home and focused on external enemies.
 

PhotoDave219

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Woody13 said:
When you can compact a full length movie into a 2 second transfer, that's the power Microsoft has had for many years!

Errrr Not to step into the debate here, but the MPEG compression was created by an independent group. Ive met a person who used to be on the comittee that helped work on it (and strange enuff, he's now working for teh mouse in a diff capacity).

So neither Microsoft nor Gates nor Virgin, nor Eisner, Nor Dasher and Dancer and Prancer and Viixen gets credit for those Codecs. ;)
 

Shaman

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PhotoDave219 said:
Errrr Not to step into the debate here, but the MPEG compression was created by an independent group. Ive met a person who used to be on the comittee that helped work on it (and strange enuff, he's now working for teh mouse in a diff capacity).

So neither Microsoft nor Gates nor Virgin, nor Eisner, Nor Dasher and Dancer and Prancer and Viixen gets credit for those Codecs. ;)

What about Rudolph? :lookaroun :lol: :p

(this is ONE fun discussion)
 

Woody13

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PhotoDave219 said:
Errrr Not to step into the debate here, but the MPEG compression was created by an independent group. Ive met a person who used to be on the comittee that helped work on it (and strange enuff, he's now working for teh mouse in a diff capacity).

So neither Microsoft nor Gates nor Virgin, nor Eisner, Nor Dasher and Dancer and Prancer and Viixen gets credit for those Codecs. ;)

HauntedPirate said:
Microsoft, circa 1998, was not in the entertainment business.

Yes, both of you are absolutely correct. Let me add that Microsoft does not make computer motherboards, processors, disk drives, MP3 players nor do they own the Internet. Microsoft basically just makes the OS (the instructions, so to speak) that make all the other components and software work together. Sure, there is Apple and Linux and a bunch of other OS's that a tiny few use, but if they prefer to be left out in the cold, that's their business.

The principle change in the entertainment industry is that digital data is now so easy to copy and transfer. During the past several years, album CD sales have dropped partly because of MP3 players but mainly because there is little need to buy them any longer. For example, most people don't want to buy a CD with just 1 or 2 hits from their favorite artist. They just want the hits! For years I have had the ability on my computer to take any music I want from any source and save it to my hard drive and copy it to CD or send it via the Internet. You know the recording industry has tried a lot of different methods to stop this activity, but it's like trying to stop a flood. I've been ripping and burning music since 1995.

I go back to the days when 1200 baud was considered state of the art! We'd upload and download Atari game files on several local (and national) BBS's (Bulletin Board System). When I bought my first 2400 baud Hayes modem, I couldn't believe the blinding speed!:lol: Sorry for the digression, but I said all this for a reason. Speed is the key.

If you have broadband, you can easily upload and download lots of music files all day. However, DVD movies take hours on current systems. Right around the corner is Internet 2. It's currently available at 200 universities in the United States. Entire DVD movies can now be send via Internet 2 in just a few minutes. In a short time, Internet 2 will be available to home users. Guess what the most popular format is for those DVD movies in Internet 2? Windows Media Player 10!
 

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