Avatar Flight of Passage vs Radiator Springs Racers

[DisneyAndUniversalFan]

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

I really like Avatar... and love AvatarLand. I think the ride is great... and love the experience. There's just something about the 3D glasses that I don't like... also the seats are just... awkward to get into. When you boil it down... it is just a big screen.

Due to those things and the great physical aspects of Racers... I will give it to Racers.

 

[chadwpalm]

The two attractions are too apples and oranges for me to make a decision on. One is a (partial) dark ride with physical sets while the other is a screen-based attraction. Radiator Springs vs. Rise of the Resistance, or Flight of Passage vs. Soarin' would make more sense to me.

Besides, I've never ridden Flight of Passage since I'm a Disneyland person and why I stick primarily to this subforum. I personally have no interest in talking about WDW when I'm in this forum.

 

[Rich T]

Radiator Springs Racers. Everything about it that’s beautiful is all really, physically there. It’s pure fun. Comfortable Vehicles. Clear, effectively presented story. No annoying preshow. Great music. And.. oh, yeah… unpretentious.

Flight of Passage is a great ride… for a simulation on a movie screen. But I found two rides on it over the course of two years were plenty; I’m in no hurry to ever ride it again.

I find the seats and riding position uncomfortable.

The preshow sequence, like the feature film, is (IMO) talky, convoluted, and not very entertaining. Dear Disney: Can we please be done with rides relying on quirky scientist characters on TV screens trying to explain to us (at great length) why the ride is supposed to make sense?

 

[waltography]

I picked FoP because it's one of the few theme park attractions that's moved me to tears. The conservation angle of the ride's message really gets to me, and I'm a big fan of flying theaters - Soarin' Over California also moved me to tears the very first time I rode it (I don't get the same reaction to SatW).

RSR is everything I want in a ride on paper - focuses on creating the iconic experience rather than retreading the movie's beats, all of the budget is apparent in the end product, doesn't require a convoluted backstory to appreciate, etc. But something about the experience I can't really explain leaves me cold. I don't ever really ride RSR unless I'm showing family/friends around the parks since it's a crowd pleaser.

 

[JenniferS]

RSR. It’s not even close.

FoP makes me nauseated. About 2/3 of the way through, when the Ikran kind of lands on a branch and pulls back for a sec is my cue to just shut my eyes for the rest of the ride.

RSR has thrills and laughs, and breathtaking scenery. And not a hint of nausea.

 

[Touchdown]

Avatar is the best simulator I have ever experienced, but a simulator no matter how good it is is going to lose out to an equally good animatronic based dark ride or roller coaster, because real g forces and real objects always beat a screen.

 

[Professortango1]

The best simulator still falls short to a physical ride experience with physical effects that are tangible.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The voters are wrong here.

Its OK I wont hold it against anyone.

FoP is the BEST attraction.

 

[DavidDL]

Ah, a battle between two E-ticket attractions that are only loosely tied to the identity of their respective parks and both featuring franchises I want nothing to do with. I guess they are more similar than one might think. Tough one.

As much as I despise Cars, I will give it to them. If only because Pixar "feels" more Disney to me and because the mountain range/practical sets are objectively more impressive. Flight of Passage ain't a bad ride in a vacuum but I will never understand the fascination movie-goers have with the Dances with Smurfs Avatar franchise. At least with Cars I can understand why children would be into it. I cannot fathom how any self-respecting adult could allow the Avatar franchise to amass the billions that it has.

 

[Misted Compass]

that are only loosely tied to the identity of their respective parks

RSR is DCA for me, if only because it's the only quality attraction at that park for 10 months of the year.

 

[Professortango1]

RSR is DCA for me, if only because it's the only quality attraction at that park for 10 months of the year.

Only quality attraction period. It's the only true "Disney level E-ticket" in the park for me.

 

[Rich T]

.. I cannot fathom how any self-respecting adult could allow the Avatar franchise to amass the billions that it has.

“Hey, Karen, wanna go see Avatar? The 3D is supposed to the best ever and it’s in IMAX.”

“I dunno, Mike. What’s on TV?”

“Crap.”

“Eh, ok.”

—-Years Later——

“Hey, Karen, wanna go see Avatar 2?”

“Gee, I don’t know, Mike. I don’t remember anything about the first one except it had blue cats in it.”

“Maybe this one will be better. The media won’t shut up about it.”

“What’s on TV?”

“Crap.”

“Eh. Ok.”

 

[PiratesMansion]

People on this forum: Why don't people go to theaters anymore for anything except Superhero crap?
Also people on this forum: People go to the theater to see THAT AVATAR MOVIE?!?!? WHAT, WHAAAAT?!?!?!?!?

 

[DavidDL]

People on this forum: Why don't people go to theaters anymore for anything except Superhero crap?
Also people on this forum: People go to the theater to see THAT AVATAR MOVIE?!?!? WHAT, WHAAAAT?!?!?!?!?

They're both awful at this point. But at least superhero movies had a good run before they started getting tired or bad. The blue space cat people movie Avatar was the dullest blockbuster my senses have ever had the misfortune of enduring when I finally got around to watching it on D+ in 2018 and unless something happened to the film between that time and 2009, then it's always been awful.

But for those out there who (somehow) found something to enjoy in it, more power to you and I'm glad you were able to Sivako. There are lots of bad movies I like, too. Avatar just ain't one of 'em.

 

[PiratesMansion]

They're both awful at this point. But at least superhero movies had a good run before they started getting tired or bad. The blue space cat people movie Avatar was the dullest blockbuster my senses have ever had the misfortune of enduring when I finally got around to watching it on D+ in 2018 and unless something happened to the film between that time and 2009, then it's always been awful.

But for those out there who (somehow) found something to enjoy in it, more power to you and I'm glad you were able to Sivako. There are lots of bad movies I like, too. Avatar just ain't one of 'em.

I don't know what Sivako is, but I'm not sure how people continually fail to understand Avatar's appeal, which is absolutely as a theatrical spectacle and oddly compelling theme park environment; nothing more, nothing less. The movie theater equivalent of what Cats or Les Mis or Phantom of the Opera or Ms. Saigon were upon their 80s launch. And much like those, it isn't high art, but if you're looking for what it's offering, there's little that tops it.

I don't doubt that it disappointed on D+; that's akin to watching a filmed performance of a show rather than seeing it live, or watching POTC on YouTube rather than experiencing it at Disneyland. A crucial aspect of its appeal will naturally be missing if it'd be consumed in any other way beyond what was originally intended.

If people choose to hate it, that's fine and all, but to me it's a bit like hating Taylor Swift; you don't have to love her by any means-I don't much care for her either, TBH. But I do not understand how anyone can genuinely hate her in the face of so many people and things that, to me, are much more obviously, objectively worse, or more likely to genuinely cause harm than anything she or her music is likely to do. For me, Avatar is neither good enough nor bad enough to inspire passionate feelings in either direction; as always, others may vary.

Perhaps people are hating Avatar more for what it represents rather than what it is (the franchise-only mandate), which I suppose is fair, but given how modern Disney tends to spend its money and the limitations it puts on itself nowadays, I have a hard time coming up with an extent Disney, Pixar, Marvel, or Star Wars property that would inherently work better as a park land in its place.

It ain't high art, but I don't think it's worth the angst some have expressed about it on here over the last ______ years.