Are we Better Off Now Than Before? What Do You Think?

[Tom]

Oh I know! My favorite pastime is bringing a clipboard in the parks and writing down all that's wrong with wdwr. How this ride doesn't fit, how a piece of scenery is out of sync with the rest of the ride, chipped paint, and my absolute favorite burnt out light bulbs. Then I love to go to different sites and report my findings and compare notes with others and complain about the price not justifying the experience, all the while planning my next trip. So much fun. :sohappy:

Whew, thank God i have a life outside of Disney.

I presume the bulk of your post should have come with the Sarcasm smiley, right?

 

[the-reason14]

I presume the bulk of your post should have come with the Sarcasm smiley, right?

From me ya, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if some folk actually do this. Though I'm no girl, while at WDW I just wanna have fun like Cydna Luaper or however you say her name.

 

[stlbobby]

To sum up this thread in a nutshell, and any discussion about the subject there after, the parks are in the best place they have ever been.

Breaking it down.

1) If the attractions that were replaced were of any value to the current Disney guest, they would still be there, pure and simple. The age old worthless crutch that a attraction "lost its sponsor" is meaningless. Space Mountain has not had a sponsor in over 5 years, but its still there. Now why is that? Simple, the ride still moves people into it. If any of the other attractions still packed in guests, they would still be there.

2) Micheal Eisner. Eisner's vision for the parks far surpassed even Walt, in fact I would be so bold as to say Disney World is more Eisner's than Walt's. Disney World was a little park before Eisner, now its a huge city catering to something for everyone. Before Eisner, the people making decisions for Disney World had no clue just what they had, Eisner did, and now we have the park as it is and always should be. Eisner actually had the guts to take advantage of the tremendous acreage available.

3) The rides are far superior. Take Epcot for example. The whole place, with the exception of a select few, is a totally different concept than when Epcot was originally opened, and a far superior product as well. Comparing still state of the art attractions like Tower of Terror to the rides of old is amusing at best.

4) More of everything. More rides, more restaurants, more resorts. It goes without saying there is more to do now than in the long forgotten days of old.



Jimmy Thick-Now is the time!!!

Well said.

I'd like to add that if the parks were exactly the same as the were in in 1975 or 1995 or 2005 it would hurt repeat business and everyone would be on these boards complaining how Disney is living off the past and refusing to innovate.

 

[stlbobby]

I vote the old. Plus I vote no "Dinning Plan" (food is much worse now) and no "Fast Pass". Prior to FP I was able to do everything in any of the three parks twice a day (yep pre AK).

Your qualms are misguided.

First, I have heard this argument about the food being much worse since the dining plan many times, but every time I go to WDW I have more great meals than I can count. There are literally dozens, if not hundreds, of threads on this forum talking about the great food at WDW. Even the food courts have tremendously expanded there range of offerings and quality over the years.

Second, the reason you can't do everything in the parks in a rush isn't because of FP. It is because the parks have so many more visitors and attractions now than even ten years ago. This is a function of the Disney marketing strategy. They have fine tuned their discount programs to keep the parks busy all year and at or near capacity during the peak seasons.

 

[kshark]

Mr. Toads wild ride!!!!!!!!

 

[Tom]

Mr. Toads wild ride!!!!!!!!

Wrong thread? :shrug:

 

[Freshee61]

This really is a hard question to answer but no. I think they're pumping out quantity instead of quality. I base this especially from what they did with the nemo ride in Epcot and the figment ride. I love wdw but they really are staring to nickel and dime IMHO but thats not the topic. I will have to wait to see the Rest of the new fantasyland to keep or change my opinion.

 

[flavious27]

This really is a hard question to answer but no. I think they're pumping out quantity instead of quality. I base this especially from what they did with the nemo ride in Epcot and the figment ride. I love wdw but they really are staring to nickel and dime IMHO but thats not the topic. I will have to wait to see the Rest of the new fantasyland to keep or change my opinion.

I think we are better than we were 10 years ago in the midst if Eisner but maybe not 20 years ago.