Are there people that would prefer no fastpasses?

[bethymouse]

Love/Hate relationship w/ FP

I would never do SOARIN w/o a FP.
There is so much to see @ WDW that if you use the system well, then it works to your advantage.
We also always used FP for TT and EE.
I would also never do TSM! w/o a FP. I go get them 1st thing!

I have used FP for Splash and BTMRR so we are able to ride our favorites more than once.

In a perfect world though, I wish FP was not necessary because IMHO it takes careful planning.

I am glad it's free and don't have to pay for it. At some parks, you pay for that extra!:dazzle:

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Haunted Mansion.

With the new queue in place? I haven't been there for that yet. Just looks different on the angle it was taken on

 

[Clamman73]

A lot of August days in the '80s were spent waiting in line for Space starting where the slope is going down in star tunnel and the switchbacks in the top part of Big Thunder...I'll stick with Fastpass. :wave:

 

[dsnyfreak]

I remember with and without FP..and it depends on time of year and attraction...but...the last time me and my family were there...it was awesome and could not imagine not using them especially with 2 young children..but I think the problem disney had before was not enforcing the return time on the passes....I had no idea you could collect them and return at the end of the night and ride everything with no waiting...I believe that that's why there were so many long stand by lines especially at the end of the night when the passes have been dispursed by 11am..like at TSM...Now I am hoping that since and IF they are being enforced...that there is a better stand by line wait time...

 

[G00fyDad]

I'm sure the difference in the two pictures can solely be attributed to FP and not the puddles all over the ground in the second picture...

Cause everyone knows there are no long lines in the FP era...

Hold on! Your long line picture is dated 2007!?!?!

Umm, those pics were a joking reference to the removal of FP. Of course they were not meant as a realistic image of life without FP. Get over it.

 

[Clever Name]

FP is a gift to people with poor time management skills. :wave:

 

[lbrad]

I know something is wrong with me............but what attraction is that?

This is The Haunted Mansion :wave:

I love Fastpass!!!

 

[G00fyDad]

With the new queue in place? I haven't been there for that yet. Just looks different on the angle it was taken on

No. Both of these pics should be from before the new "horrible" queue.

 

[Uncle Lupe]

With NextGen I do like the idea of being able to schedule FP's for headline attractions. Not having to worry about beating a crowd to Soarin', Toy Story or Space Mountain. If you do not use the system to your advantage that is your fault.

 

[erasure fan1]

Here is the problem I have with fastpass. Lets say you park hop to any park in the evening. You really have almost zero chance to ride test track, soarin, space mountain, toy story midway mania and depending on the night, there is a few others. The reason is because of fastpass. If you dont have one (and you wont because they will all be gone already), the standby line is your only option. And I do remember before fastpass and the standby lines were not as bad as the standby for these rides in the evening. The reason I voted no is I just think there is a better way to do this kind of system.

 

[Tom Morrow]

FP is a gift to people with poor time management skills. :wave:

Actually, it isn't, but that is one of the many illusions of the benefits of Fastpass.

 

[Sweet Melissa]

We don't utilize FastPass very much, but I'm glad it's there for the people who do (and for the odd occasion that we do use it).

 

[IROC it]

Life in the fast lane for me.

 

[bethymouse]

I agree

Here is the problem I have with fastpass. Lets say you park hop to any park in the evening. You really have almost zero chance to ride test track, soarin, space mountain, toy story midway mania and depending on the night, there is a few others. The reason is because of fastpass. If you dont have one (and you wont because they will all be gone already), the standby line is your only option. And I do remember before fastpass and the standby lines were not as bad as the standby for these rides in the evening. The reason I voted no is I just think there is a better way to do this kind of system.

Yes- there's gotta be a better way! I guess that's why they're testing the new RFID system.:shrug:

 

[AEfx]

if anyone needs to think about this.. all they need to do is look at how big the queue structures are in WDW and go 'why do they need all these switchbacks?? they never use them!'

Well back in the 80s.. they did have to use them

Ding ding ding.

I CRINGE when I see the queue for Splash and realize that people have actually waited in that line before, it feels like a mile. Same for POTC and quite a few other large rides.

In my adult life, I have never waited more than 20 minutes for a ride. Even that is too long most of the time. It's because I use FP to it's full advantage and still get to do ride after ride.

The thing about FP is that if you don't know how to use it, it's your own fault. I mean, Disney puts it on the park maps with little cartoon characters explaining it in such a simple way that even a typically-developed five-year-old can understand.

The general "hate" directed to it, even by people who do understand it (and, I'd bet, 99% of the time, use it themselves in spite of the complaining), is because it's just one of those scapegoats people can use for whatever axe they have to grind. It's like the Dining Plan - you'd think it murdered baby puppies on Christmas morning to listen to some people go on about it.

The only issue has seemed to be attractions that have had it that don't seem to need it - like HM, where it actually goes against the design of the queue (same will happen with Mermaid, unfortunately, though in a slightly different way). Overall, though, FP is a wonderful invention - and regardless, it's here to stay, so it really is in everyone's best interests to use it to it's fullest advantage, because the only thing it will hurt is yourself if you don't.

 

[rufio]

Ding ding ding.

I CRINGE when I see the queue for Splash and realize that people have actually waited in that line before, it feels like a mile. Same for POTC and quite a few other large rides.

In my adult life, I have never waited more than 20 minutes for a ride. Even that is too long most of the time. It's because I use FP to it's full advantage and still get to do ride after ride.

The thing about FP is that if you don't know how to use it, it's your own fault. I mean, Disney puts it on the park maps with little cartoon characters explaining it in such a simple way that even a typically-developed five-year-old can understand.

The general "hate" directed to it, even by people who do understand it (and, I'd bet, 99% of the time, use it themselves in spite of the complaining), is because it's just one of those scapegoats people can use for whatever axe they have to grind. It's like the Dining Plan - you'd think it murdered baby puppies on Christmas morning to listen to some people go on about it.

The only issue has seemed to be attractions that have had it that don't seem to need it - like HM, where it actually goes against the design of the queue (same will happen with Mermaid, unfortunately, though in a slightly different way). Overall, though, FP is a wonderful invention - and regardless, it's here to stay, so it really is in everyone's best interests to use it to it's fullest advantage, because the only thing it will hurt is yourself if you don't.

Agreed! I HAVE waited in those lines! I went in July 2009 and I waited anywhere from 45 minutes to 3 hours for every ride I went on. NEVER again!

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

I'm with those that don't understand the distaste for FP. As a veteran park-lover, having just visited TDR FP truly was a blessing. The lines often wondered into the 50-60 minute range, and this is mid-week in an uneventful time of year! Thanks to FP I managed to squeeze every headliner, most mid-sized rides and a few flat ones just for kicks, not to mention shows, parades and night time offerings, all which I refused to pass up on. Not only that but I still had roughly 2-3 hours at every park to just wonder off and appreciate the off-beaten paths and small details we all love. I got to shop around, have a sit-down meal and not hurry up with fast food junk.

I get why the average joe might not appreciate it if they didn't understand fully how to take advantage of the system, but for us vets I often wonder why some people here are so adamant in their hatred of the idea.To answer the question... I don't prefer no FP but I sure hope that there are people out there that do. That means more for me!

 

[grumpydave]

I use Fastpass at least once a day per park, sometimes more. As AEfx mentioned and others have agreed, the key is knowing how to use it. Getting to the park early is a plus. Planning the day's attractions ahead of time can easily turn 90 minute standby lines into 20 minutes using FP.

On the other hand FP does little good if you arrive at the park later in the day.

I am hoping the testing goes well and they come up with something that improves on the current system

 

[Monty]

My personal opinion:

The people who complain about FP do so primarily because of perceptions that are inaccurate. When you're in a stand-by line and your progress is stop and go because of FP riders getting let in in front of you, the perception is that those people are delaying your ride. In reality, the delay is negligible at best because had those people not had access to the FPs, they would have simply been in front of you in the line you're in. Your line would have moved more steadily, giving the perception of improved progress, but the ride loads the same numbers whether there is FP or not. Why I say the delay is negligible is there would be people who looked at the posted wait time and decided not to ride, so there would be slightly fewer people potentially in front of you. Where FP has the potential to increase stand-by times is on the rides people who get FPs ride while they're waiting for their FP window.

 

[MaryJaneP]

FP is the answer to the ever-shortening attention span and patience of the WDW visitors. Ergo the interactive ques. Just a matter of time before the lines go through the shops BEFORE the ride rather than AFTER. Captive audience and all. Wait and see.