AP ticket use question with 4/3 deal

[DougK]

As an AP holder my wife and I bought the 4/3 package and we each got one day base tickets because we had to buy at least one day even though we don't need them because of our AP's.

I understand I can apply those one day tickets to the cost of renewing our AP's when the time comes however I am wondering could I possibly use these one day tickets for someone else, like getting a friend in one park for one day? I know the ticket will come on my KTTW card but since I will never use the ticket it will never be tied to my finger scan, so is this allowed? I am NOT looking to break a rule I just want to know if those two one day tickets have to be used only by my wife and me or if we can share them with others.

I know someone here will know the answer!

Thanks!

 

[sbkline]

Speaking strictly according to the rules, I don't think you're "supposed" to do that...because tickets are supposed to be non-transferable. But as you said, they won't be tied to your fingerprint, so there shouldn't be anything physically keeping you from handing these tickets over to your friend to use. And, for what it's worth, whether it's permissable under the rules or not, I couldn't care less...I see nothing wrong with doing it even if it is technically against the rules.

I've never understood that "non-transferable" rule, personally. As long as Disney has been paid for the admissions, I don't know why they would give a flip who uses said admissions. It's not like anyone is sneaking in without paying.

 

[RickEff]

I've never understood that "non-transferable" rule, personally. As long as Disney has been paid for the admissions, I don't know why they would give a flip who uses said admissions. It's not like anyone is sneaking in without paying.

If it were allowed, you could buy a 10 day pass and pay less per day than shorter stay passes. Disney WOULD lose money.

 

[DougK]

If it were allowed, you could buy a 10 day pass and pay less per day than shorter stay passes. Disney WOULD lose money.

In this case however they are full price one day tickets, if that makes a difference.

Thanks for the responses.

 

[Rob562]

The tickets are "non-transferrable", but technically until they're used the first time, they're not really "assigned" to anyone. So you're good to go.

I'm actually going to be doing something similar. A friend (who won't be staying in the hotel with us) will be using my unnecessary 1-day ticket (I have an AP) from my Free Dining package in June.

Another possibility, at least to get the ticket off of your room key and free of your name, would be to ask Guest Relations at the parks if they can "strip" the ticket off of your room key and issue it on its own media. (I've heard stories of them doing this, but have no first-hand knowledge) That way you can just give your ticket to your friend and be done with it.

-Rob

 

[DougK]

The tickets are "non-transferrable", but technically until they're used the first time, they're not really "assigned" to anyone. So you're good to go.

I'm actually going to be doing something similar. A friend (who won't be staying in the hotel with us) will be using my unnecessary 1-day ticket (I have an AP) from my Free Dining package in June.

Another possibility, at least to get the ticket off of your room key and free of your name, would be to ask Guest Relations at the parks if they can "strip" the ticket off of your room key and issue it on its own media. (I've heard stories of them doing this, but have no first-hand knowledge) That way you can just give your ticket to your friend and be done with it.

-Rob

Good idea, thanks!

 

[sbkline]

If it were allowed, you could buy a 10 day pass and pay less per day than shorter stay passes. Disney WOULD lose money.

Are you talking about if I chose to sell my 10 day pass to someone else for cheaper? If so, Disney is still not losing money, because they sold that pass to ME for the full price. Whether I give it away or sell it, that has no bearing on the fact that Disney already has the money in their pocket for this ticket.

 

[Rob562]

Are you talking about if I chose to sell my 10 day pass to someone else for cheaper? If so, Disney is still not losing money, because they sold that pass to ME for the full price. Whether I give it away or sell it, that has no bearing on the fact that Disney already has the money in their pocket for this ticket.

That's one way of thinking of it... "*Someone* paid for those days of admission, why should Disney care who uses them?"
But by making them non-transferrable, Person #2 *has* to buy their own ticket. So now Disney has sold 2 tickets rather than 1.

Which makes more money for Disney? Two 5-day tickets or one 10-day ticket?

-Rob

 

[sbkline]

That's one way of thinking of it... "*Someone* paid for those days of admission, why should Disney care who uses them?"
But by making them non-transferrable, Person #2 *has* to buy their own ticket. So now Disney has sold 2 tickets rather than 1.

Which makes more money for Disney? Two 5-day tickets or one 10-day ticket?

-Rob

Well, if you allow transfers, then you're right...person number 2 doesn't have to buy his own ticket. But person #1 does...because he no longer has his ticket. If I buy 10 tickets and give them all away, then I still have to buy another ticket if I want to get in myself. So in the end, Disney still gets paid their rightful price for each and every person who enters the parks.

 

[sbkline]

I posted the above this morning before I left for work, but I realized the flaw in my argument as I was typing it. I thought I had deleted the post, but in browsing the forum, I see that it posted after all.

I guess I forgot to take into account all the people who use 6 days of their 7 day ticket, or 7 days of their 8 day ticket, etc, and let that last day or two expire since it only cost them a few extra bucks for the option of going into the parks on those days that they ended up not going into the parks. I guess Disney considers those extra days of admission for only a handful of dollars to be a perk of being a resort guest and not something that you can just give to someone else because you decided not to use them. I suppose my argument would have been more valid if the price of a 5 day ticket was 5 times the price of a one day ticket, in which case, Disney would already have received full admission price for the ticket when you buy it, so it wouldn't matter who proceeds to use the remaining days. But when a person gets into the park for 2 dollars that day off of a ticket that would have otherwise expired and been thrown away, then I must confess that the policy makes a little more sense.

 

[kimmychad]

I posted the above this morning before I left for work, but I realized the flaw in my argument as I was typing it. I thought I had deleted the post, but in browsing the forum, I see that it posted after all.

I guess I forgot to take into account all the people who use 6 days of their 7 day ticket, or 7 days of their 8 day ticket, etc, and let that last day or two expire since it only cost them a few extra bucks for the option of going into the parks on those days that they ended up not going into the parks. I guess Disney considers those extra days of admission for only a handful of dollars to be a perk of being a resort guest and not something that you can just give to someone else because you decided not to use them. I suppose my argument would have been more valid if the price of a 5 day ticket was 5 times the price of a one day ticket, in which case, Disney would already have received full admission price for the ticket when you buy it, so it wouldn't matter who proceeds to use the remaining days. But when a person gets into the park for 2 dollars that day off of a ticket that would have otherwise expired and been thrown away, then I must confess that the policy makes a little more sense.

actually, i agree with your initial assessment. someone else getting into a park for $7 is no different than me getting into the same park for $7 more.

just like in sept when we went and didn't use my room at all star music, we had to get the room to get the dining plan but it wasn't big enough so we let the wifes cousin use it for 5 nights and we got a condo off property.
I paid for the room, and as far as i'm concerned it was nobodies business who stayed in it.

 

[sbkline]

actually, i agree with your initial assessment. someone else getting into a park for $7 is no different than me getting into the same park for $7 more.

just like in sept when we went and didn't use my room at all star music, we had to get the room to get the dining plan but it wasn't big enough so we let the wifes cousin use it for 5 nights and we got a condo off property.
I paid for the room, and as far as i'm concerned it was nobodies business who stayed in it.

I'm still not sure I agree with the policy. I simply understand the reason behind it now whereas before I couldn't even understand why they would care. There's a sense in which I still agree with you that you bought it and paid for it, so what the heck difference does it make who uses it.

 

[Rob562]

actually, i agree with your initial assessment. someone else getting into a park for $7 is no different than me getting into the same park for $7 more.

Yes, but that "someone else" would have to pay $70+ to get into the park if they weren't using your $7 ticket.

I'm neither defending the policy, nor am I rallying against it. I'm just trying to point out Disney's side of the arguement from a business perspective.

I wish I could come up with a real-world equivalent to illustrate my point, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment.

-Rob

 

[kimmychad]

Yes, but that "someone else" would have to pay $70+ to get into the park if they weren't using your $7 ticket.

I'm neither defending the policy, nor am I rallying against it. I'm just trying to point out Disney's side of the arguement from a business perspective.

I wish I could come up with a real-world equivalent to illustrate my point, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment.

-Rob

I see your point Rob, but like with the case of you giving your friend your unusable 1-day park ticket when you go on your trip, I don't see the difference.

If you weren't giving your friend the ticket, they'd have to buy one, but either way, the ticket was paid for and is entitled to be used.

on our last trip with the wifes family I couldn't use the $15 planet hollywood voucher we received with our package as we had the deluxe dining plan so I gave it to her cousin - the voucher was unusable by me and I saw no reason to leave it there when we went home.

 

[DougK]

Well let's all remember that I would not have started this thread in the first place if Disney did not make me buy even a one day park admission that I do not need since I am an annual passholder. They could simply offer the 4/3 deal as a room only deal to passholders rather than making me buy even a one day pass I do not need.

I am certain there are many many passholders who have bought those extra one day park passes in order to get the great 4/3 deal who will never use them. After all we still saved money on the room and nobody made us buy them, but Disney gets the money up front and nobody ever uses the ticket. Gee I guess I answered my own question, now I know why Disney does it this way!

 

[Master Yoda]

Well let's all remember that I would not have started this thread in the first place if Disney did not make me buy even a one day park admission that I do not need since I am an annual passholder. They could simply offer the 4/3 deal as a room only deal to passholders rather than making me buy even a one day pass I do not need.

I am certain there are many many passholders who have bought those extra one day park passes in order to get the great 4/3 deal who will never use them. After all we still saved money on the room and nobody made us buy them, but Disney gets the money up front and nobody ever uses the ticket. Gee I guess I answered my own question, now I know why Disney does it this way!

The 4/3 deal is intended to get those that would normally not go to Disney to make a trip....and a long one at that.

They do have a discount similar to this and it is called an AP room only discount. The savings are almost identical and you can book as little as a one nights stay. Be thankful that that the even still allow this one day ticket loop hole for this program as well as free dining. They could very easialy require you ticket and resort stay to match. I look at it like a rebate. You can get the money back if you take the correct steps. If you chose not to that is your choice and not Disney's fault.

 

[kimmychad]

Well let's all remember that I would not have started this thread in the first place if Disney did not make me buy even a one day park admission that I do not need since I am an annual passholder. They could simply offer the 4/3 deal as a room only deal to passholders rather than making me buy even a one day pass I do not need.

I am certain there are many many passholders who have bought those extra one day park passes in order to get the great 4/3 deal who will never use them. After all we still saved money on the room and nobody made us buy them, but Disney gets the money up front and nobody ever uses the ticket. Gee I guess I answered my own question, now I know why Disney does it this way!

I feel your pain, i had to buy 2 tickets to get the free dining even though we're passholders. The only deal that I know of that gives the passholders a break is the 40% off pin code that got emailed to select passholders, its doesn't make you buy a ticket to get a package.