Any tips for largish groups?

mweier

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I've only ever been to WDW with groups of 3 or 4, so for me, our upcoming trip with 4 kids, 3 parents and 2 grandparents feels like a huge mob. Any tips for how/whether to split up and how to manage Fast Pass Plus for a group this size? We've got parkhopper and 6days in-park (plus 1 day UIoA), staying in Contemporary.
 

NYwdwfan

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We went one year with 8 adults and 5 kids ranging in age from 2 1/2 to 10. We had dining reservations for everyone for dinner each day. We usually split up in the morning, met by the pool for lunch and downtime, went to dinner together and then split up in the evening. We rarely stayed together as a group for touring since the kids ages differed so much. My suggestion would be to make dining reservations for everyone and FP+ for the park where the ADRs are, since you will all need to be in that park for dinner, and then play it by ear from there.
 
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dreamscometrue

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Don't be afraid to split up. With larger groups, people will have different interests overall, but even feel like doing different things on different days. On one trip, we planned (Sunday a.m.) to go to DHS for the evening and to see Fantasmic!. By late afternoon, several people wanted to stay at the resort (Kidani Village), hang out in Community Hall, sit outside with a beverage by the firepit, etc. The few who wanted to go to DHS still went. It was all good, but some people can get annoyed when plans change or all people don't want to do the same thing, eat at the same place, etc. We even split up for quick service meals because people wanted different things. I'd discuss this before going because when group members are tired, or hot and tired, they can get cranky. :)
 
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mweier

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we've got ADR's all set for parties of 9 each night so hopefully that goes well; have yet to get access to make FP+ reservations (i assume this won't hit for a couple months if they continue to roll out ~30 days prior to resort rezzie.

What complicates it a bit is that 2 kids, 1 parent & the grandparents (my aunt & uncle) had planned to go and we sort of "added ourselves on" to the plan (after confirming that no one had a problem with that), so we'll have to tread lightly in terms of trying to suggest the option to split up. I'm also just not super clear how this whole FP+ thing will pan out trying to make our own FP+ rezzie's, let alone try to help make them for the group and then let them change them as needed in-park.

We had our first experience with ADR's in March, so even this amount of regimented plan was a bit tricky to pull off and that was only with my nuclear fam of 4.

Main thing I'm taking away is
1) don't stress if people want to veer from the plan (no problem, as long as I'm not expected to make more touring plans for them!) and
2) don't expect to see as much as I know I could coax my fam to see if we were on our own. If it becomes an issue, we could always leave them to their own devices for parts of days.
 
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dreamfinder

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we've got ADR's all set for parties of 9 each night so hopefully that goes well; have yet to get access to make FP+ reservations (i assume this won't hit for a couple months if they continue to roll out ~30 days prior to resort rezzie.

What complicates it a bit is that 2 kids, 1 parent & the grandparents (my aunt & uncle) had planned to go and we sort of "added ourselves on" to the plan (after confirming that no one had a problem with that), so we'll have to tread lightly in terms of trying to suggest the option to split up. I'm also just not super clear how this whole FP+ thing will pan out trying to make our own FP+ rezzie's, let alone try to help make them for the group and then let them change them as needed in-park.

I don't think it's so much suggesting that people split up as much as it is don't plan on spending the time together. Planning a single event or block of time each day is often the best you can hope for. So booking a group dinner, or scheduling a family ride on Peter Pan, something like that. Sounds like you already have the ADR's planned, so that may be the limit of your planning.

FP+ will potentially both work for and against you. If you add everyone on the trip to your Friends and Family section in MDE, you can plan the FP+ for the entire group. Conversely however, they can modify your FP+ plans as well.

Especially if you kinda jumped on the trip bandwagon, I'd just push for the blocks of time together. That way everyone can still spend the morning/afternoon/evening/whatever doing their own thing, but you still get some family time.
 
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Weather_Lady

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With a large group, the hardest part is managing EXPECTATIONS. Have a group meeting beforehand and encourage the group to be willing to split up when and if their interests differ. Set up one meal (or activity) each day that the entire group will attend, so everyone will still feel "on the same page" as everyone else even if they've been doing different things for part of a day.

We're going in May with my Dad and aunt (both over 70) and our two small children. We're generally spending the evenings together and having dinner together, but morning touring schedules are more free: the kids and I want to be in the parks at rope drop, while Dad and my aunt are more likely to want to sleep in, have some coffee or take a stroll, and then meet up with us later. They also, along with my husband, tend to be night owls who will want to do things after the kids and I have gone to bed.

To prepare them ahead, we've had a couple of family meetings to talk about Disney World in general and discuss all of our expectations for the trip. I gave everybody dining surveys to figure out where they'd like ADRs, and attractions surveys to find out what kinds of attractions (e.g., rough rollercoasters, spinning rides, elevated rides) they can and can't do. I will use that to make FP+ for the group in our "evening park" each day.

We're staying together in a 2-bedroom villa at Wilderness Lodge, so I've also made a folder to keep out in the living room each day. It has itinerary sheets for each day, which list: park hours and showtimes, dinner reservations for the whole group, generalized touring plan suggestions (Morning- MK, tour Fantasyland and Tomorrowland OR relax at the resort and take resort tour. Afternoon - Epcot, tour World Showcase with dinner ADR at Biergarten at 6:00pm), etc. Each itinerary sheet also has a "Notes" section about the day (headliner attractions in the park we're visiting, how to get there if you want to come late, what the dinner restaurant is like). There is a sheet with important phone numbers, one that gives directions to every Disney property destination from our resort (what bus or boat to take), and a separate sheet with "other things to do" that describes and gives directions to things like Downtown Disney and the mini golf courses.

My hope is that this will arm everyone with what they need to make informed choices about what they'd like to do each day, knowing that they're welcome to jump into park touring with the bulk of the gruop or to relax doing something else, knowing that we'll be having dinner and spending the evening together and can regroup then. In traveling with multiple generations in the past, we've found that this kind of flexible approach makes everybody happy, and still allows for plenty of quality time as a group.
 
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mweier

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Great perspective, Weather_Lady. We're hoping to have a skype chat between all the kids to see where they've all landed on ride priorities, and it shouldn't be hard for me to loop my cousin/aunt/uncle know in on some of these expectations just so they don't feel required to stick to whatever plan I ultimately build out for everyone.

As a side note, none of them have been to WDW in the past 15 years (the other mom and 2 kids have never been), so I have offered to give them at least enough reservation suggestions to help make the best of what may well be their only trip to WDW. Thankfully none of them seem interested in Character M&G, so finding common FP+ suggestions shouldn't be hard if they DO want to stick together.

I am still hoping to make sure the kids get some time together (this is a huge part of why we're going together) and if we're all "go-with-the-flow" enough, should allow for some natural breakouts when people have different immediate goals. It may even give the pairs of siblings a much-needed break from each other if we swap a kid & divvy us up at any point.

dreamfinder: We have already linked accounts so I was able to make the ADR's for all 9 of us. I assume this would let me help with FP+, but your point about this simultaneously giving them control over our FP+ is confusing to me. They should still be able to edit only their own FP+ rezzies (not mine) as needed, right? Any advice from someone who's actually used FP+ would be helpful but maybe that's another thread.
 
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zurgandfriend

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The biggest problem we had was getting together. We did a grand gathering and each family was in a different resort. I recommend give you a meeting place and time and if they are not there start without them and let the missing ones catch up.
 
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mweier

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The biggest problem we had was getting together. We did a grand gathering and each family was in a different resort. I recommend give you a meeting place and time and if they are not there start without them and let the missing ones catch up.
Luckily we are all in Contemporary, so getting together and even meeting at MK shouldn't be impossible even though they have TP View and we have BL view.

Will strongly recommend that at least someone else in their group gets a cel charger for on-the go battery charging for if/when we need to reconnect later in the day. We would have been dead by mid-day w/o our 10000 maH Anker USB charger last time.

I'm suggesting that we all consider mid-day breaks each day so this would be another opportunity to regroup if we spend late AM or lunch apart.
 
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ctosh

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We went in June 2011 with 16 people for 9 nights.. and it was one of our best trips ever
I made seperate ADR's for each family just in case they wanted something else.. we took a mid-day swim break
 
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iluvMainStMagic

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We will have 3 families with a total of 11 people going the first week of Dec. We already have some ADR's together, and some separate - and the kids are of different enough ages that they will want to go in different directions a good bit of the time. We all stayed together on our first couple of group trips when there were only boys of close ages, but now that there are 2 younger girls, that doesn't work anymore.

"If" we all decide to go with FP+ [I am having a hard time getting a yes/no from the others :confused:], I'm thinking I will call the helpline if everyone wants FP+'s together for anything.
When I first set up & ported over reservation info into my MDE acct, I had to call the helpline to get some of the info to show up. During that conversation, I asked about a large group and FP+'s and the CM said we could try to link them ourselves, or I could just call the helpline back and they would take care of it for me. That was at least a month ago, so I hope we can still do that by the time we figure out what to do! But in the meantime, maybe it will be a help to some of you nice folks :)
 
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mweier

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i've never tried the help line but it did take us a couple tries to get the MDE accts linked for some reason.

Assuming I've got their priorities and can sketch out a touring plan that seems good to people, I think it's easiest for me to plug everyone's FP+ in and then invite them to edit as needed. I get the sense that they want to use FP+, touring plans, etc but just don't know where to start.
 
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meyeet

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I've been dealing with trying to get magic bands and fastpass+ working for 13 of us. It hasn't been fun using MDE so far. A call to Disney seems to have fixed the issues that I was having though. I'm also having trouble getting all the ADRs to show up for everyone. 41 days to go to get everything fixed though so I'm not worried... yet.
 
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dreamfinder

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dreamfinder: We have already linked accounts so I was able to make the ADR's for all 9 of us. I assume this would let me help with FP+, but your point about this simultaneously giving them control over our FP+ is confusing to me. They should still be able to edit only their own FP+ rezzies (not mine) as needed, right? Any advice from someone who's actually used FP+ would be helpful but maybe that's another thread.

I'd suggest reading the "Family and Friends" section of the MDE T&C found here -> http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/media/park-experience-terms-and-conditions.html
Important sections include

Connected Friends share itinerary and activity information, and can book activities for one another (like dining reservations and FastPass+ selections). If you want to allow others to make reservations for you, you can add Connected Friends. In addition, if you do not want others to have access to your Friend List for purposes of sending requests to connect to your Friends, you can disable the "Share Friend List" feature in your account settings.
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The Family and Friends feature allows you to assign or match Experience benefits and certain Resort products and services purchased (such as ticket entitlements) to your Friends and plan activities for them (such as Disney FastPass+ selections and dining reservations). Your Connected Friends will also have the right to plan activities for you and modify activities planned together such as FastPass+ selections. Connected Friends can view your entitlements and activities, but you may choose whether your Connected Friends can see all of your activities, or only activities that you have in common with them.
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You acknowledge that by sending and/or accepting an invitation to become Connected Friends, you authorize your Connected Friends to plan and modify activities for you, including making FastPass+ selections for you, without notice to you.

Emphasis is in the original and not added by me. If you booked the ADRs and just added their names, then they may only be Managed Friends, which means they don't currently have MDE accounts, but if they do have accounts and the reservation shows up in their profile as well, then they should be Connected Friends, and the above applies.
 
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mweier

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Thanks! One is connected, the kids and seniors are just unlinked managed people. If we link all for me to make FP+ rezzies, and they want to change later, are they allowed to change only their own FP+ and not the whole group? If not, would unlinking cancel any rezzies we set up?

Thanks!
 
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dreamfinder

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Thanks! One is connected, the kids and seniors are just unlinked managed people. If we link all for me to make FP+ rezzies, and they want to change later, are they allowed to change only their own FP+ and not the whole group? If not, would unlinking cancel any rezzies we set up?

Thanks!

Whenever you make changes to FP+, you have the ability to change them for one person, some people, or all people. So if Tommy and Sally want to do Haunted Mansion instead of PoTC, they can make that change and the rest of your still do PoTC. However, they can change anyone in your group, so if Tommy is having a rough day, he could possibly accidentally cancel everyones TSM FP+ and rebook it for Playhouse Disney (if that even has FP+). Disney is basically saying if you friends & family trust you enough to book their FP+s, that you need to trust them enough not to purposely change yours. Unlinking them shouldn't cancel existing FP+s as those are tagged to the person, but then if you wanted to try to change them en masse (say to accomodate a new dining reservation you made) you wouldn't be able to do it unless they all relinked with you.
 
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DVCOwner

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When I go to Walt Disney World it always seems like we have a very large group of family and friends. Two of my best friends are also DVC members, so we usually have 20+ in our group. The one thing we do is breakfast in one of the DVC two bedroom villas and people know they can get together, from groups and head out for the parks. With any large group of 10 or more I would not try to stay together all of the time. We also try to do one big event each time we go. One year we rented pontoon boats and watch the fire works at the Magic Kingdom, had private dinners during Fantasmic, and a drinks during Illuminations. We can always find something special at Walt Disney World.
 
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Tigger19

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Wow Weather_Lady I thought I was organised but that put me to shame! That's a really good guide to make up, I'm sure you put a lot of time into that, I hope it works out for you!
I went to WDW with 12 family members. It was weird but we actually stuck together the whole time because some family members had never been before. We showed them around and everything though but it would be best to split up during the day because there was some of us who weren't interested in some of the attractions, and well there was some bickering, nothing serious but everyone has different interests at the end of the day!
I would arrange to meet at a certain time for lunch or dinner then split up again or stick together for another while.
I'm not to sure about the fastpasses but I have a feeling that we just fastpassed as normal.
Hope this helps! Family holidays are always the best holidays, wish I could go back out with my whole family again :)
 
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