Any other value resorters like me just now watched Frozen?

216bruce

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You've been to the restrooms at Grand Floridian's lobby, yes?
OK, no. How about in-park? The theming on the outside and even inside (mens side at least) is really cool. Who doesn't love frying pans hanging above sinks?
BTW- Just what's in GF's bathrooms? Inquiring minds...
 

Matt_Black

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OK, no. How about in-park? The theming on the outside and even inside (mens side at least) is really cool. Who doesn't love frying pans hanging above sinks?
BTW- Just what's in GF's bathrooms? Inquiring minds...

It's just a really nice, fancy bathroom. The restrooms over at American Adventure in Epcot are really nice too.
 

disney4life2008

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It's not going to show up on Netflix. (Assuming you mean Instant.) Just the general Target-shelf mass-market B-titles, like the sequels, the DTV's, and the 70's-80's movies. "The Pirate Fairy", maybe, but not Frozen.
And being one too cheap to rent the 3D versions of Disney movies, I've discovered the public library system is often cheaper than Redbox.



I think they changed Club Cool too early. :)

The public library is a hidden treasure. I now go there daily getting movies including Frozen :)
 

StageFrenzy

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It IS the best toilet on property.
Hey, maybe an "Oaken's Bathroom...and Spa" themed bathroom. It could have a sound chip/sensor thingy in it that every time you open a stall door it says..."Hoo Hoo Big Summer Blowout."
It'd be, well, different.

Tokyo's small little restroom is good.
Best restrooms on property is Contemporary on the convention floor when no meetings are going on.
 

216bruce

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Wow, I never realized that so many folks knew so much about WDW restrooms. I guess I need to pay more attention when I'm in them. I just noticed the Rapunzel themed ones.
 

morningstar

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It's not going to show up on Netflix. (Assuming you mean Instant.) Just the general Target-shelf mass-market B-titles, like the sequels, the DTV's, and the 70's-80's movies. "The Pirate Fairy", maybe, but not Frozen.

I meant the DVD-by-mail Netflix. It just recently came out on DVD, and then there was a lag of a week or two it seemed before it was available from Netflix.

There is some decent Disney animation on instant, though. Lilo and Stitch, Pocahontas, I think Mulan.
 

morningstar

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The wife rented 'Frozen' from the Redbox when we recently traveled to visit my sister. Needless to say, we didn't like it AT ALL. The story was lousy, the songs were terrible, and the bits of humor completely fell flat. Its success just stymies us.

Honestly I agree about most of the humor, especially Olaf. But I can't see where you're coming from with the rest.
 

morningstar

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Maybe it's the fact that I'm an only child, but the film never spoke to me. I found a review that described Frozen as "a forty minute trailer leading up to the Let it Go song" and I tend to agree for the most part.

I sort of agree. I feel like the movie petered out a little after Let It Go. However, it's a bit too far to call the first half a trailer. There are four or five songs before Let It Go, two or three of which are really good.

It's not a bad film, but in my opinion there really shouldn't be THIS much love for it. The only part that I really enjoyed was the bit in the shop on the snowy hill where Anna meets Sven, other than that I thought it was your standard princess film, love conquers all....blah, blah, blah.

Well, love conquers all, but not in the standard way. Not love of a handsome prince and princess, but love between two sisters. The handsome prince is the bad guy.
 

NMBC1993

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I sort of agree. I feel like the movie petered out a little after Let It Go. However, it's a bit too far to call the first half a trailer. There are four or five songs before Let It Go, two or three of which are really good.

While I will agree that there is a bit more there in the beginning, I really couldn't stand those songs. There are many people who criticize Randy Newman for creating those "singing what your doing" musical numbers, but in my opinion "For the First Time in Forever" is the definition of singing what your doing.

"The window is open, So's that door, I didn't know they did that anymore, Who knew we owned 8000 salad plates?"

See what I mean? People knock Princess and the Frog for their soundtrack but I'd rather have any of those songs play in loop before I listen to that Frozen song again. I don't feel completely the same about "Love in an Open Door" but again that song for me isn't up there with the greats (Friend Like Me, Kiss the Girl, Be Our Best, etc.)

Well, love conquers all, but not in the standard way. Not love of a handsome prince and princess, but love between two sisters. The handsome prince is the bad guy.

Sure, this isn't the traditional method but it's just a few minor tweaks from the real thing. Like I said before, as I don't have any siblings, the message of "sisterhood" went right over my head and didn't hit me with the emotional impact it did for others. On the other hand, the ending of Wreck-It Ralph where he says "Turns out I don't need a medal to tell me I'm a good guy, 'cause if that little kid likes me, how bad can I be?" hit me in a big emotional way as I am someone with low self-esteem, which probably didn't impact people on the same level as myself.

Again, I'm not trying to say Frozen is a horrible film, it's far from it. I just don't understand how there can be so much love for this film. Pardon the pun but I feel like this film has become crack for the general public where they just can't get enough. Every woman I see has that Elsa hair, people stand in 7 hour lines to meet two characters, I just don't get it. Personally I thought Muppets Most Wanted was a far more enjoyable film and every song was so catchy. Also, I'm sorry but Constantine the Frog blows Olaf out of the water as far as a memorable character. If anyone out there hasn't seen the interviews with Ricky Gervais and Constantine do yourself a favor and watch them, they are so hilarious.

To wrap things up as I stated earlier I seem to be in the minority when it comes to popular films such as Frozen, The Avengers, etc. It seems if I dislike a film, the entire world will go nuts over it. Maybe I should get a job in Hollywood predicting the box office;)
 
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EricJ

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Personally I thought Muppets Most Wanted was a far more enjoyable film and every song was so catchy. Also, I'm sorry but Constantine the Frog blows Olaf out of the water as far as a memorable character.

While, personally, I'd thought the earlier movie was an audience crack-attack of feigned "nostalgia", despite the fact that the movie was snottily backhanded in sniggering at the characters as "70's childhood", and was a vanity excuse for the star to parade himself and his buddy-cronies in front of the characters trying to do Drew Carey Show musical numbers.
And then, when we'd all calmed down for a year or two, they tried the same backhandedly smugsy-wugsy humor again with different inserted actors, and audiences thought, "Gee, that's strange....It's just not as funny as I remember the first film was."

Some films just look different after we've had a year or two to sleep off the "Publicly declare your love for the movie" bender. We now return you to your Frozen thread, already in progress. ;)
 

Matt_Black

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While, personally, I'd thought the earlier movie was an audience crack-attack of feigned "nostalgia", despite the fact that the movie was snottily backhanded in sniggering at the characters as "70's childhood", and was a vanity excuse for the star to parade himself and his buddy-cronies in front of the characters trying to do Drew Carey Show musical numbers.
And then, when we'd all calmed down for a year or two, they tried the same backhandedly smugsy-wugsy humor again with different inserted actors, and audiences thought, "Gee, that's strange....It's just not as funny as I remember the first film was."

Some films just look different after we've had a year or two to sleep off the "Publicly declare your love for the movie" bender. We now return you to your Frozen thread, already in progress. ;)

While I liked the 2011 film, I wasn't nearly as enamored with it as some people seemed to be. The best Muppet films deconstruct genres in a loving, hilarious fashion, like The Muppet Movie did road films or The Great Muppet Caper did heist film. Muppets '11 tried to deconstruct Muppet movies, which doesn't work nearly as well.
 

NMBC1993

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While, personally, I'd thought the earlier movie was an audience crack-attack of feigned "nostalgia", despite the fact that the movie was snottily backhanded in sniggering at the characters as "70's childhood", and was a vanity excuse for the star to parade himself and his buddy-cronies in front of the characters trying to do Drew Carey Show musical numbers.
And then, when we'd all calmed down for a year or two, they tried the same backhandedly smugsy-wugsy humor again with different inserted actors, and audiences thought, "Gee, that's strange....It's just not as funny as I remember the first film was."

Some films just look different after we've had a year or two to sleep off the "Publicly declare your love for the movie" bender. We now return you to your Frozen thread, already in progress. ;)

Earlier movie? Oh! You mean Jason Segel and Amy Adams: Featuring The Muppets? Yes, I agree completely that the previous film really tried to ride the nostalgia train way too hard, almost in a "meta" way and was only used to convince kids today that what their parent's liked was cool too. Meanwhile you have two characters (Who are not Muppets) hijacking the film with a useless love story that had nothing to do with anything. On top of that, almost every cameo was already on the Disney payroll and was just thrown out there without even working them into the story. The previous films had the cameos play roles in the film, instead we get "Hey look! It's Selena Gomez, Yaaaaayyyyy!!!" Who cares? While I applaud Jason Segel for going to the studio with this idea, coming up with his own script, it just seems like he filmed the movie so he could watch it at home and say "Look at me, I'm singing with the Muppets!".

That's why I liked Muppets Most Wanted so much better. Sure Ricky Gervais played a large part in the film, but he was the #2 to Constantine, he played a role. The Muppets were really the main focus of the story, which allowed them to do what they do best, wacky acts on stage. While the plot could have been tightened up a bit, I still believe what saved it for me was Constantine. There's just something about that questionable Russian accent and angry look on his face that just cracks me up every time (his Kermit impression is spot on;)). To be fair though I am a Three Stooges fan and love that type of slapstick humor. Also with this film there were some cameos that were so in the background that I just flat out missed. Did Tom Hiddleston even have a line? I didn't recognize him until a minute after his scene.

Anyway, hopefully your right and this Frozen fad will "blow over" in a few years. Although with the way Disney seems to be pushing it now, I think it'll be a while.
 
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morningstar

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While I will agree that there is a bit more there in the beginning, I really couldn't stand those songs. There are many people who criticize Randy Newman for creating those "singing what your doing" musical numbers, but in my opinion "For the First Time in Forever" is the definition of singing what your doing.

"The window is open, So's that door, I didn't know they did that anymore, Who knew we owned 8000 salad plates?"

That's just the beginning. Most of the rest is singing what she's going to be doing. She also may be acting out what she's going to be doing, but isn't really doing it. And the beginning is not what she's doing either, it's what she's observing. Furthermore, she is not just observing random irrelevant happenings. There is significance to the windows and doors worth singing about. Even the salad plates have a minor significance - not really worth singing about but it adds lightness to throw them in.

But maybe you're talking about the same thing I noticed, which I describe as a "conversational" quality to the songs. I rather like this. Most songs are about some character expressing their feelings, or perhaps as in the songs you mentioned (Friend Like Me, Kiss the Girl, Be Our Guest), presenting some persuasive monologue. "Do You Wanna Build a Snowman?" on the other hand, is a simple interrogative. I also found refreshing how she sings the line, "Okay bye." Colloquialisms like, "which is totally bizarre," work their way in, and Hans begins his part of "Love Is an Open Door" with the words, "'cause like". And of course, that song goes on to be very conversational in the way they take the concept of a duet way over the top with all the finishing each other's sandwiches. All in all there's a lot of humor in Anna's songs, which is appropriate to the upbeat mood of the first act. There were a couple of lines I thought were really too cheesy like, "Don't know if I'm elated or gassy, but I'm somewhere in that zone," and, "maybe it's the party talkin', or the chocolate fondue." If those ruin the whole song for you that would be a problem, but I can excuse them.

These songs also do build to a significant theme by the time the chorus comes around. To me they are just as stirring, but blend seamlessly into the spoken dialogue that introduces them. That's how they were able to pack a bunch of songs into the first half of the movie, I think.

Plus the songs are not the only thing that's amazing about the first half. The kids are adorable. The score when Elsa freezes Anna and when the parents are shipwrecked is haunting, and the animation in the latter is also fantastic. The action and dialogue when Hans knocks Anna into the boat are totally cute.
 
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