Any other Dispatchers out there?

AgentB911

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Just wondering if there are any other dispatchers out there that are as fanatical about Disney as I am. I swear I drive my co-workers nuts with all my Disney talk. :p

What 911/PSAP do you work for? What software, emd, etc do you use?

I'm currently stuck on the 3rd shift in Allegheny County.:brick:
 

BiggerTigger

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My husband just went to bed, but is work number is 911. He has to work tomorrow, but I will let him know that there is a thread. I am sure he will talk hours with you about dispatching.
 

sweetpee_1993

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I worked dispatch/communications/911 with St.Tammany Sheriffs Office in Louisiana from 12/2001 - 10/2005. When I left I was C-Team Corporal. I literally walked away from Sergeant. St.Tammany is on the north side of Lake Pontchartrain/New Orleans. Yes, I worked thru Katrina (assigned to run communications at the parish Emergency Operations Center). Yes, it played a significant role in my walking away after the shifts had all settled and gone back to normal. I can honestly say it was a full-on love/hate career. There's a reason average burnout is 3 years. I hated the toll working shift work took on my family. I hated having to stay to work when disasters were looming while my family had to evacuate. I hated that all the other divisions treated communications like garbage. I loved what I did, tho. I loved running a shift. I loved becoming a leader (not a babysitter) and watching my girls thrive & grow, wanting to do a good job. I loved when the ____** went down...when a pursuit with shots fired or something else huge kicked in...I loved the feeling of my team working like a well-oiled machine handling every moment like a rehearsed ballet. It was the one job I've had in this life where I found my duck-in-water talent.

Before I was a dispatcher I was a wife & mother, tho. In the grand scheme of things that's what I needed to do first & foremost. I am grateful for having the opportunity to serve my community for the years I was there. I learned a lot about how strong a girl I really am deep down. I don't sweat a lot of little things anymore. Like with jobs I've had since, when I think I'm stressing I tell myself "Nobody's going to die if I mess this up" which calms me down. Having carried the lives of others in your hands makes other stuff trivial at best.

Let's see, I don't remember exactly what systems we worked on. Our radios were all-digital for privacy. I wish I could recall which CAD system we used. I did get pretty swooft with NCIC before I left. I was setting up hot keys and finding all sorts of shortcuts. I actually wrote our agency's step-by-step instructional "cheat sheets" for entries, cancellations, etc. I also wrote our checklists/forms for those things. I helped write a bit of our training guides and assisted in setting up the training program. When I started we had no structured training. We literally learned by firing squad. They put us on the phone, showed us how to operate the systems for a few hours, then told us to go for it and yell if we got in over our head. If we messed up we'd get yelled at which taught us to not do that again. It was nuts!

Tell us more about your agencies! How many on your teams/shifts? Structure? How long have ya been at it? War stories????
 

AgentB911

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Sweetpee...first and foremost KUDOS to you for sticking it out during Katrina! That had to be a hellish experience. I would not have left my family if it were me. But I guess someone's got to man the ship, right?

You couldn't have said it better about the love/hate relationship. I definately feel you on that.

Let's see...I started dispatching part-time for Munhall police/fire/EMS in 2000, which is a very small borough that borders Pittsburgh. Soon after, I got a full-time gig with the University of Pittsburgh Police as a dispatcher. Worked there until the day I was hired at Allegheny County 911 in 2006. And I've been here ever since. I've been on the night shift since I was at Pitt in 2001. Let me tell you...I'm about sick of the night shift! But, that shift diferential just sucks me right back in every year when the shift bids come out. That's about an extra two grand a year.

We currently use Tiburon for our CAD, which was just updated in 2010. It comes with a Maverick mapping program which uses satelite views and is an awesome tool. I don't know how I ever dispatched without it. We use CML for our phone system and Motorola Gold Elite for our radios. Our center is divided into 4 zones: Central (Pittsburgh), North, South, and East, all in the same room. I am assigned to the South Zone, where we have 8 desks: 2 fire, 2 EMS, 3 police, and the county desk. The county desk dispatches all homicide, general investigation, fire marshall, hazmat, and SWAT details, and also monitors radio traffic from county police and sheriff's. The South basically handles all communities south and west of Pittsburgh. Allegheny county is unique in that there are 130 individual municipalities within.

We currently run on 8 hour shifts, but are trying (to no avail) to switch to 12 hour shifts.

As for war stories...well this post has been long enough! I will say that the only thing comparable to Katrina that we had was "Snowmaggedon," where we accumulated something like 30" of snow over a two day period from two seperate weather events. We were mandated to 12 hour shifts with no pass days for about two weeks until everyone dug out and power was restored. The other big event we had was the G20 in 2009, but luckily, I had already booked my Disney vacation well in advance and wasn't stuck working that one! We went to 12 hour shifts with no pass days for a week for that one.

I'll share some of my war stories at a later time. :wave:
 

sweetpee_1993

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Major kudos to you for stickin' in with the dispatch stuff for so long. That's amazing! Normal (LOL) people don't realize the amount of stress that job carries. It's hard enough just knowing the decisions you make can be the difference between people living & dying, but to have to multi-task and keep it all rolling for hours and hours. It's tough. I remember the days of mental mush after work. If you aren't nutty going in, you will be soon enough. My hat is off to you being in the game this many years. Seriously. I know only 2 or 3 ladies who've done that.

Eh, Katrina itself wasn't that bad. I was on night shift when we got activated (required to stay...not allowed to leave or go home) so we stayed on nights. I'm a natural night owl anyway. Always loved nights. More interesting. Day shift blows. Anywhoo, I was put at the Emergency Operations Center with a group I had chosen to be there working for me. Ironically, that summer before the storm I had been requested to sit on the Hurricane Preparedness Committee. It's like it was meant for me to be there. The phones were crazy busy leading up to the storm. It starts out mostly people asking about evacuation info. Then they all want to know about shelters. As the storm was making her approach the calls became pleads for rides but we couldn't do that. We didn't have the resources. We tried to comfort people who were afraid, etc. We worked 12s so my shift ended at 6 am. The storm came in shortly after. I slept thru most of it. I woke a few times. I'd stare at the ceiling until I could tell there were no water marks. I'd lay my hand on the wall that was the building exterior and feel it vibrating. The wind was loud. You could hear things hit the buildings all around us. When I went back to work downstairs at 6 pm it was over with. All communications out of New Orleans was lost. Our phones including 911 were down for most of that 1st night. We literally sat & did nothing. It got sporadic in the day or so after the storm. We caught a lot of random cell calls bouncing up from the city. People crying, begging for help. Nothing we could do. Nobody could contact New Orleans. Tried to comfort them best we could. When the phones were back we got lots of calls from people who had evacuated wanting to know conditions in the areas where they lived. The lake had come inland like 5 miles in 1 part of our Parrish. Some areas we had heard were totally gone. Not leveled. Stripped. Its not fun telling people they most likely have nothing to return to. Most of us had no idea about our own homes because we couldn't leave. The Parrish officials wanted us to tell everyone they couldn't return because of the conditions. No power. No gas. No nothing. I didn't feel right about that. I told people what was going on and if they came to be prepared to get in & get back out. The Parrish was under curfew for a few weeks at least. People who stayed were like nuts. Lots of paranoia, shooting at shadows at night. We didn't really have the looting stuff like New Orleans. All our guys really fought hard to keep it square. It was wild having them come show us trunk loads of guns they'd taken off the street. Craziness. After I rotated back to communications and people were returning (after about a week) we still worked doubled-up shifts both on the road & in dispatch. With twice the personnel out there the radios rocked solid. Only the highest experienced dispatchers could hack the radios. I know I had to spank the guys s few times because they were walking over each other so bad. I'd monitor the special ops channels listening to the crews with cadaver dogs do their searches. Then you had dopey people getting hurt cutting down trees, etc.

One of those was one of the worst(emotionally) I ever dispatched. A 13 yro boy helping his dad cut trees...tree fell on the kid. The guys were out there. You could hear how bad it was in their voices but also when they'd key up you could hear the parents in the background. Tough stuff, man.

We worked doubled-up shifts for about a month. We were released from activation after the first week but so many didn't have homes to go back to so they stayed. We were blessed. Our house had very minimal damage. We could live there but we had no power for over 3 weeks. We had generators, camp stoves, etc. It wasn't a really safe environment so we kept the kids out of state until electricity was restored. I worked 20-something nights straight. 12 on, 12 off. I didn't see my children until that ended.

The hardest part for me was being strong. Before when the kids & hubby were packing up to leave they all begged and pleaded with me to leave. The forecast track was going to square up our home with 180 mph winds. The boys cried that they didn't want mommy to die. My husband cried, said the job wasn't worth dying for. In my mind I knew I had this in me to do. I wasn't afraid. I never felt like I was in physical danger. All I could think was that if it was my family who needed help I'd want someone to be there. If I had left I would've felt like a coward & regret it for the rest of my life. So I sent them away and went to work. After the storm it was 4 days or do before I could get a word out to my family. During that time they didn't know what had become of me.

In the weeks after the storm, especially if I thought of my kids, I'd want to walk away so bad. One afternoon I got a call out to my parents house. I totally cracked on the phone with Dad. I kept saying "I can't do this. I can't handle it. I wanna come home." I'll never forget it. My dad just said, "Baby you are doing it. I know you can handle it. Be strong. You're MY girl. We do this." And I hung in there. I fought to stay strong for my people. I had to stay steady or they would've cracked, too. I wiped their tears. I hugged and loved them. I stayed tough so they would. But I had my moments. I just couldn't afford for any of them to see it. Ya know?

When the shifts returned to normal and life started churning again the husband and I did a lot of soul searching. The storm hit as our marriage had pretty much hit its absolute low. In many ways it was like God Himself sent Katrina to get our heads popped out of our posteriors and get our crap together. I felt like I had done what I was supposed to do. I knew I never wanted to be separated from my children like that again. Priorities shifted. I was ready to walk away.

We ended up moving to Georgia for a career opportunity for the hubby. No regrets. But let me tell you! Adjusting to life after was brutal! I went to work for a satellite phone equipment company working regular office hours and it was terrible. The job was great. Being motivated to show up every day was difficult. Everything felt trivial and lacked meaning or substance. The fact that I was earning almost the same hourly rate as I did at the Sheriff's Office was something that made my blood boil. It made no sense. I made decisions that were literally life & death for 12 hours at a whack. I was responsible for the life & death decisions made by the 6-7 people on my shift. How that was worth the same as a silly customer service rep whose decisions were pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme was incomprehensible. It was a hard pill to swallow for quite some time. In the end, I made peace with it all by coming to terms with the knowledge that there's some jobs people do because it's what's in their soul to do. Dispatchers don't do that job for money or glory. It's what's in them. I would say "You know?" but if you've been at it that many years I know that you do. :)

If you're wondering if we were ever offered debriefing or counseling after the storm the answer would be no. Our lieutenant was assigned to our division because he was a liability where he was. He had no dispatch experience so he had no idea what it was like to do our job. When the subject came up with the high-ups he told them we didn't need anything. A year to the day after Katrina I sat down and poured every bit of it into a Word document. I didn't talk about it much in that first year. My hubby says he tried to ask stuff but I wouldn't go into it. That was my release from it, tho. I think we all had to find our way after. It was such a poignant thing to live. In life there's events that define time. For us there's "before the storm" and there's "after the storm".

Well, there's my novel for the day. Lol! If you ever want to read that document you're welcome to it. Take care. Write away and share. I got you, sweetie!

:wave:
 

mickeyt

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Thanks for the 'novel' sweetpee. And thanks to all the unsung heros that work nights, weekends, holidays.....to keep us safe and living the 'normal' life.
 

AgentB911

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Thanks, MickeyT...and you're quite welcome! I couldn't imagine getting paid to do anything other than what I do. I may dislike most of my co-workers, but I love helping people. So I'm going to keep on keeping on.

Sweetpee...You are by far the strongest, most bravest person I have ever had the pleasure of chatting with! And the fact that CISD was never offered to you and the rest of your team is just incomprehensable! Luckily, CISD is always offered to us here. And it has been a great help!

There have been lots of stories that have made national news here, but it seems that I'm always off when the poo hits the fan. But there is one story that has always stuck with me since I dispatched for Munhall. And to this day, I still have a hard time with calls that involve children.

This was back in 2003 when my daughter was just about a year old. A friend of my wife's had a daughter about the same age. This friend of hers was not a friend of mine as her family just simply did not like me. The phone rings, and it's one of the family members screaming about a little girl that was struck by a Hummer H2 and is trapped under the vehicle. I knew my wife was there and didn't have time to think if it was my daughter or not. Coincidentally, I was out of medic units. The closest mutual aid was also unavailable. So I "threw the kitchen sink" at the call. I sent the next three closest medic units and also dispatched 3 of our volunteer fire companies since I didn't know if extrication would be needed, and remembering that several firefighters of the one company were also cross-trained as EMT's. Of course PD got there first, and were able to pull the child from under the vehicle, and started CPR. Hours seemed to tick by, but all of the responders arrived in a short amount of time. During all of this, I was able to make a frantic call to my wife and determine that they had just left the residence minutes prior to the accident. As it turns out, the Hummer H2 belonged to a pizza delivery driver. When the pizza arrived, that's when my wife left. Anywho, the child was transported to Children's Hospital. A little while after that, my shift at Munhall ended, and my night turn shift at Pitt began. It was while I was at Pitt that I learned that the child had passed. Back then, Children's was sort of on the Pitt campus, and the family arrived, and created a disturbance. Pitt PD responded to assist hospital security, and that's how I found out. I actually took two calls at two different agencies for the same incident. After that, I had to leave early from Pitt. I basically lost it...I couldn't even see to type on the computer.

A few months went by, and I find out that I'm being sued by the family. So is the borough, the police, the fire companies that responded, as well as the medics and the hospital, because the family claimed they deserved justice. The whole thing was thrown out of court because 1) The mother left the gate wide open and didn't keep an eye on her child, letting the child wander out into the street and 2) It was proven that I did all I could, despite not having an available medic unit, to get adequate responders to the scene. The judge basically said I went above and beyond what I was required to do.:sohappy:

And...just like sweetpee...no CISD was offered to me. Munhall didn't believe in that. :fork: That's why I'm lucky to be with the agency I am now, who has no problem calling in CISD whenever needed.
 

sweetpee_1993

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Just making it back to this thread. Glad to hear from ya, AgentB911! And MickeyT, thank you!

Man, what a terrible story. To know the family and the baby. Sheesh! Worse is to know your child had been there. Isn't it nuts how people act? Seriously. There's no explanation. Some people are just crazy as all hell. I hate that you got drug into a lawsuit. Ain't that the kicker??? People don't realize the liability dispatchers take on. If someone isn't happy with how a call goes they'll sue a dispatcher in a blink.

So let's lighten up the subject a bit. Ever key up and say anything on a radio that you shouldn't have or didn't mean to? Maybe you said it without evening thinking then caught yourself. Let's see, when I was training on radios I got all flustered and accidentally keyed the mic in time to say plain as day, "Oh $h!t". The girl training me said, "You just said that all over the radio!" LOL! My favorite wasn't me but it was on my shift when I was still pretty new. It was the wee hours of the morning so everything was pretty dead. We were trying to stay awake, actually. One of the other girls was on one of the district radios and thought it'd be funny to key up her mic and say, "A dozen hot-n-fresh would be nice." Meaning doughnuts, of course. Well, 15 minutes later in thru the back door walks one of the smaller PD guys we dispatched for with a dozen doughnuts for us. He had this totally dumbfounded look on his face. Apparently at the exact moment that girl keyed up with her silliness that officer was opening the door to the little mom-n-pop's doughnut shop. He said he heard her and immediately thought, "OMG! They've got GPS on these radios!" He said he was looking around to see where the hidden cameras were. Purely coincidence but funny nonetheless! :lol:
 

AgentB911

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LOL! Thanks for brightening my day with that story!

I've had many embarassing open mic incidents. But, this one takes the cake: Working in a small, local dispatch center, we had an intercom feature on the base radio for police. The intercom was connected to the bordering small towns dispatch center. We would often chat on the intercom and advise each other when nature would call, adn cover for each other. Well, after dealing with a particularly difficult caller, the other dispatcher wanted all the juicy details on the intercom. Me, in my infinite wisdom, keyed the radio button instead of the intercom button. Many "F" bombs were uttered while I thought I was on the intercom. Boy, did the phones light up! That was definately a "D'oh" moment!
 

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