I just heard from someone that they got word that the Fountain of Nations is getting another refurbishment. Is this true? and please tell me it is not going it be down on presidents week because I do not want another year without seeing the fountain. But then it does need work and wet design probably works much faster now on programming and hardware assembly... I hope. (Hint Hint) make it the old color again the new color looks like allergy and if thats the case power wash it.
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Another Fountain of Nations Refurbishment?
- Thread starter vintageepcot
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Yeah thats all. I saw them when the fountain was drained they looked perfect. The Belagio fountain is out of line as well as the Dubai Fountain which is already falling apart just a little bit. I can see if they wanted to add some oarsmen like the Belagio have. The only problum with the fountian is those 3 sprayers never turn off, the 6 middle fountians that go off the sides have been on the fritz and the microshooters are messed up. I can see if they need new computers and I am praying that if they do anything they dont add radio disney music to the fountian. Maybe they just want to update the system and the oarsmen flowing off the sides would be cool if thats what they are planning to do.
hpyhnt 1000
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vintageepcot said:
Another refurb? Bring it on; any attention the fountain receives is good attention.
With all due respect, I disagree. Between the misaligned jets, the non-functioning center shooter, the underperfroming and crooked arch jets, the AWOL misters, not to mention the other small issues that always plague the fountain, I think there's plenty that could be done to warrant another extended refurb. :shrug:
Does the average guest notice the current flaws with the fountain? Probably not. But that doesn't make them okay. :wave:
Another refurb? Bring it on; any attention the fountain receives is good attention.
With all due respect, I disagree. Between the misaligned jets, the non-functioning center shooter, the underperfroming and crooked arch jets, the AWOL misters, not to mention the other small issues that always plague the fountain, I think there's plenty that could be done to warrant another extended refurb. :shrug:
Does the average guest notice the current flaws with the fountain? Probably not. But that doesn't make them okay. :wave:
It seems like it was fine all the way up to 2001 then in 2002 it was drained and someone said they were fixing the cracks on the top of the fountian which would probably require them taking it apart and ever since I noticed allot of trouble. After the 2009 refurbishment the fountian nozzles were also disassembled and then they came back crooked so it culd be that there out of line. They should use some blue man group music, some Arkenstone, no radio disney or anything instrumental except the civilization theme song that would be a cool song to use, Pirates of the Caribbean music would work and of course some Epcot Fountian classics.
Rob562
Well-Known Member
Paperwork was filed today for repairs to the "CO2 monitoring system" on the Fountain. Perhaps this was what the refurb report was referring to?
I didn't realize they even used CO2 in the fountain. Is that what the misters actually are? If so, perhaps they were turned off until the monitoring system could be repaired, and after this they'll be turned back on.
Or do they use CO2 for propellant on the jets rather than air?
-Rob
I didn't realize they even used CO2 in the fountain. Is that what the misters actually are? If so, perhaps they were turned off until the monitoring system could be repaired, and after this they'll be turned back on.
Or do they use CO2 for propellant on the jets rather than air?
-Rob
Thats great thanks for posting. I bet thats why things when haywire, Now they just need to straighten some jets. I hope it is done by presidents week and that they do not change to much :sohappy:. The fog is a computer thing because it does work occasionally when it feels like it:lol:. That sound of the popping of the Super Shooters are Co2, the mini dancers are ran by Co2 the side shooters Co2, The rest is from the pump. If you notice after a Co2 fountain goes off the fountain bubbles, that means it is refilling than the Co2 gives it the lift. The fountains that go off arrant getting Co2 to the fountains. The misters are weather submersible which those have some crazy electric vibration that makes mist, thats what my fountain has but I think the ones on the fountain are like any other garden mist nozzle. The monitoring system might be the computer system. I think the monitoring system is what controls all the movements which has been working very poorly. If I am right that might lead to some new music. I hope the keep the same music or something like it. No vocals or radio disney, something relaxing like what I wrote above. It could also be a device we dont notice being there. I am also pretty sure that will make the fountains shoot perfectly in line again but I cannot guarantee that.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
I'd love to see those 1994 Plans go into effect.
Lasers are always good.
I agree here. I don't know the fountain that well, but when it's really preforming, it's amazing.Another refurb? Bring it on; any attention the fountain receives is good attention.
With all due respect, I disagree. Between the misaligned jets, the non-functioning center shooter, the underperfroming and crooked arch jets, the AWOL misters, not to mention the other small issues that always plague the fountain, I think there's plenty that could be done to warrant another extended refurb. :shrug:
Does the average guest notice the current flaws with the fountain? Probably not. But that doesn't make them okay. :wave:
Still is amazing now, but it could be even better. Especially with new tech.
I'd love to see those 1994 Plans go into effect.
Lasers are always good.
I agree here. I don't know the fountain that well, but when it's really preforming, it's amazing.
Still is amazing now, but it could be even better. Especially with new tech.
The fountains with all that tech are ushrualey placed in the middle of a lake and have more room I guess. The only thing really different are the computers. The fountain really only lacks oarsmen and lasers but really doesn't look empty without them. The color display already is something that Dubai and the Bellagio dont have. I dont think they would add more because the fountain is a stray attraction but still make repairs but I could be wrong. I saw some of the belagio equipment, and it is pretty similar to epcots except the oarsmen and what controls the fountain. What controls them is a different story. I was looking this up a Co2 monitoring system regulates the amount of water going into cells. The old system could the the issue to the uneven lengths and missing fountains. Seeing the water come up from a platform with water coming down it I think is pretty amazing.
Exactly... the same with the ones that cross thru the middle. Nothing dances better than air powered fountains. Everything except the fountains that stay up more than 5 seconds. I kind of like it the way it is in 100% form.
Excellent news, I just saw a new video where almost all the non Co2 fountains were working properly on Que, even the fog was working. This isn't definite but I will ask the person who shot it when it was taken. The sprayers were also on Que. The arch fountains were crooked but I was glad to see the fountains working good. I wasn't sure if I should post it but it is one of the newest videos on youtube if you want to see for yourself. Some nozzles were crooked but i have a feeing they will be adjusted when they add that new Co2 monitoring system.
There's that big towards the middle going off and the ones that go across the fountain to both ends. Both foggers work at 2 different times and sometimes together. You will see them there much lower than the big one. Its easy to think the little ones arrant. I cant explain the ending thats wierd. The computers are 16 years old. You will see every one I explained. There is 3 to the right I have never seen.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Are they? I know they upgraded some of the tech in this past refurb, but I don't know about the PC's....
Rob562
Well-Known Member
It could also be that the CO2 monitoring system is simply an air-quality monitor in the under-stage areas of the fountain stage. The room underneath the stage (and the visible walkway area outside it) is below the water level of the fountain, and CO2 is denser than air. It probably just monitors the air in case the CO2 levels coming off the fountain get too high as the CO2 finds a lower point than the surface of the water...
Anywhere that CO2 might be present in large quantities in an enclosed space is required to have CO2 monitors. The one inside Mannequins was very visible on the side wall on the first floor. There is also one in the ITTBAB theater, though it's most likely not visible to the Guests.
-Rob
Anywhere that CO2 might be present in large quantities in an enclosed space is required to have CO2 monitors. The one inside Mannequins was very visible on the side wall on the first floor. There is also one in the ITTBAB theater, though it's most likely not visible to the Guests.
-Rob
Well lets hope its for the nozzles. The fountian shows are well loved, a mess and should be better kept.