Annika Sorenstam

[FutureCEO]

I surprised no one has brought this up. First women golfer in 58 years to play golf. She played good the first day but the media and press and all the pressure on her finally took a toll on her the secoind day. She said that she won't try again..that she belong it the LPGA but I think she could play with the guys.

 

[SpongeScott]

I doubt she could cut it on a weekly basis. She picked this course because she thought this was her best shot to keep up with the men. She said most of the other courses are way too much for her. I'll give her credit--she did a good job considering all the pressure that was on her. Now, can we have a man go play in an LPGA event?

 

[Captain Cab]

I have nothing against Annika and I can understand a top female athlete wondering how she would match up against the males.

But I still think inter-gender sports are silly. People keep talking about how impressed they were with Annika's showing. Well, she's likely the best female golfer in the world, and she didn't make the cut. What does that tell us about the differences between the sexes?

I enjoy watching many women's sports. I encourage young girls to be athletic if they so choose. I respect the LPGA. But it's just silly PC nonsense to agitate for women to be put in the men's league, and then to gush over the top woman player on earth for putting in a performance that would be dismissed as mediocre for a male.

If we abolished separate gender leagues in sports, women would nearly vanish in athletics. Most sports would be 99% to 100% male. How would that help women's sports?

Even if an occasional exceptional female came along who could keep up with the men, she'd be such a rarity that it would merely underscore the differences between the sexes. And while it's possible that a rare woman could make the cut competing against males, it's impossible to believe one could ever become a Tiger Woods, a Michael Jordon, a Mario Andretti, etc. There would never be a female SUPERstar, though the lavish and fawning press coverage of ANY female who falls short of embarrassing herself would probably make people think she was a superstar.

Yes, Annika is a great golfer. But ONLY when matched against other females. Matched against males, she's just one of many in the back of the rankings. As the best female golfer on earth, she's good enough not to look bad when playing men. That's hardly an image that people who respect women's sports should find encouraging.

Let the men play the men and the women play the women, and women overall will benefit. Mixing the two only allows a rare top level female to make the lower levels of the male leagues.

 

[SpongeScott]

Nice post!:sohappy:

 

[Kenan]

I congradulate Annika on her performance cause she did beat out quite a number of males the first and second day. Obviously, no one thought she could even make it that far. She played excellent and hopefully this will pave the way for future women golfers to play in the "male" dominated PGA Tour.

 

[ACE]

Originally posted by Kenan
I congradulate Annika on her performance cause she did beat out quite a number of males the first and second day. Obviously, no one thought she could even make it that far. She played excellent and hopefully this will pave the way for future women golfers to play in the "male" dominated PGA Tour.

Are we gonna let the male golfers who don't win in the PGA tournaments play in the LPGA? Wonder how many men would dominate the LPGA if we allowed that?

Anyway, Captain Cab said it best in his post when he said:

Let the men play the men and the women play the women, and women overall will benefit. Mixing the two only allows a rare top level female to make the lower levels of the male leagues.

With that being said, I'm out.

:wave: ACE

 

[SpongeScott]

Originally posted by Kenan
I congradulate Annika on her performance cause she did beat out quite a number of males the first and second day. Obviously, no one thought she could even make it that far. She played excellent and hopefully this will pave the way for future women golfers to play in the "male" dominated PGA Tour.

She beat 11 or 12 golfers in her two days of playing. Other women playing in other male events would not be a pretty picture. Even she admits no chance of competing on some of the courses they play.

 

[CmdrTostada]

very good post captain cab

 

[no2apprentice]

It would be interesting to see Tiger play in a LPGA tournament, just to see what would happen. Would he crack under the pressure?

 

[Maria]

And up until this post, only men had posted in this thread! :lol:

I haven´t seen this Annika golf player, but I wonder... is she nice looking? I don´t mean to be disrepectful, but why does she want to play in the same category as men? Even golf coulg become "rude" in terms of strength and all that. Women can play with their own levels.

If she is still "feminine" looking and wants to prove she is as strong as the guys, I don´t care, let her prove it.... but, if she doesn´t look that feminine, I guess she just proved why she wants to play with men! :animwink:

I don´t like seeing women do sports to look like men, if you know what I mean... There are sports that model the body for women, and for men. Let´s keep them separated and without any confussions please! :lol: :animwink:

Of course, if she is pretty like Anna Kournikova, none of what I said applies! :lol:

:animwink: :animwink:

 

[SpongeScott]

Hmmmmm, there's something about Maria catching these man-only threads!

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally don't find her attractive, while other men certainly think she is really good-looking. Guys?

As for Tiger folding under the pressure in an LPGA event, he doesn't even wilt under the pressure of his own tour.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Now I know Goufff is meant to be the sport of my country, but I hate the game. Too many dodgy buisness deal are agreed over a round of golf. When I was a boy it was seen as a way of climbing the social ladder. I couldnt carew less if a woman plays or not. Lets face it the type of " sportsmen " that play this game are the ones who couldnt make the team at proper sports.

After all its a sure way to spoil a good walk.

 

[no2apprentice]

Originally posted by sandjhooker
As for Tiger folding under the pressure in an LPGA event, he doesn't even wilt under the pressure of his own tour.

I agree. But, the type of pressure I was thinking of, was the pressure of being the standout. Annika is obviously a very talented golfer, by any standards. But, a few days ago, she not only had the pressure of playing in a tournament, but having the additional pressure of being the standout. Every eye was on her, because she was different from every other player there.

Pressure from circumstances that you're use to are one thing, pressure in a new environment can be unsettling. I wonder how Tiger would do with that type of added pressure. (Probably fine, the man loves golf!)

As far as whether or not she's attractive...couldn't say. Didn't get a real good look at her on TV, and golf clothes are designed for freedom of movement, not showing off your "features.":animwink:

 

[The Mom]

I don't understand what her looks have to do with anything.

But to answer the question as to WHY a woman would want to play in the PGA rather than the LPGA...that's where the MONEY is!!! Perhaps some day women's golf will get the same attention (and big purses) as men's. Women's tennis seems to be closing the gap; let's hope that a few more sports catch up.

 

[Coronado]

Mom Mom.....pleeeze.... how many rounds in a womens tourney....(4) nope three.... Tennis matches for women best of five?? nope two outa three..... mo money? ... play longer courses... longer tourneys..... more matches..... the best golf that i have ever seen was the JC Penney Classic where they match pro men and women as playing partners at the Innisbrook courses in Tarpon Springs, Fla.

 

[ACE]

Originally posted by The Mom
But to answer the question as to WHY a woman would want to play in the PGA rather than the LPGA...that's where the MONEY is!!! Perhaps some day women's golf will get the same attention (and big purses) as men's. Women's tennis seems to be closing the gap; let's hope that a few more sports catch up.

I agree that the money is better in men's sports, but do you think that it is because there's more men sports fans than women sports fans? I mean if women watched women's sports as much as men watch men's sports, then there would be more coverage thereby generating more money for everyone involved. Did I make sense? Anyway, just a thought.

:wave: ACE

 

[MouseMadness]

Male athletes get paid more because they bring in more money. Myself, I commend Annika for doing what she did... she felt, for whatever reason, it was important, and followed through. I can't imagine how difficult it was... golf is not an easy sport at all... and anybody who will try to tell me otherwise has never seriously tried it! :lol: And knowing that the eyes of all the world are scrutinizing you would make it all the more stressful. So, she did what she did... I don't see what all the fuss is about, really. Am I missing the doors she kicked down, or stereotypes she broke apart? Ever since this whole thing started I've wondered why all the attention was given. So, I'm done... as you were. (I think I just made the world's most pointless post. That's what I get for thinking out loud)

 

[ACE]

I say let's make it fair and equal across the board. We'll do away with "men's" and "women's" sports and just have sports. Everyone competes against everyone. If the women are good enough then they make the money if not then they don't, just like the men who can't cut it.

Actually, I don't agree with this but the door will have to swing both ways. If we let women into men's sports, then.......

:wave: ACE