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[WaltMickey]

Where in the park would this Australia section go? And also, would it have something involving some Australian Aborigine mythology such as the Dreamtime or the Bunyip?

From what I've heard it will go where Camp Mickey and Minnie is. And Also since all of you still cant get over BK. Sorry but that idead is dead for AK. But dont worry too much because when the 5th gates opens, something similer to BK will be there.

 

[TennisPlayer519]

From what I've heard it will go where Camp Mickey and Minnie is. And Also since all of you still cant get over BK. Sorry but that idead is dead for AK. But dont worry too much because when the 5th gates opens, something similer to BK will be there.

What the heck?!?! Australia MUST be fake. PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME IT'S FAKE!

Are they taking down Festival of the Lion King? Will it be moved to Africa? FOTLK is incredibly popular, and I don't know what they would do with this show just to open Australia.

If FOTLK is really going to go after EE opens...

*Begins purchasing rice and flowers to throw*

Oh, wait. Those things are for weddings.

*Begins crying uncontrollably*

Someone, show me a source for Australia. FOTLK cannot go. IT CANNOT!

 

[DarkMeasures]

Where in the park would this Australia section go? And also, would it have something involving some Australian Aborigine mythology such as the Dreamtime or the Bunyip?

I heard between Africa and Conservation Station as in only way to get to Australia will be by train.

 

[imagineer99]

I dont see how a land would fit in that little area.....:lookaroun....

Look at the park map. PLENTY of space. It would have to be built BACK further.

The only thing that could hinder this would be the location of animal holding pens. Nevertheless, I thought that this was located somewhere else.

If I'm mistaken, it is obviously not an ideal site

 

[FigmentJedi]

There's also room in the area of Dinoland and Asia.

 

[Atta83]

Look at the park map. PLENTY of space. It would have to be built BACK further.

The only thing that could hinder this would be the location of animal holding pens. Nevertheless, I thought that this was located somewhere else.

If I'm mistaken, it is obviously not an ideal site

Thats the backstage area, no room there, believe me i know....

 

[Shaman]

I heard between Africa and Conservation Station as in only way to get to Australia will be by train.

By train, huh....that would be very interesting....

I would go for South America before Australia...but...a new land for AK would be really welcomed....especially soon....

They really should work on some concept for the Camp Minnie Mickey though...so that the park could remain open later....AK is indeed a beautiful park at night....

hmmm...

 

[Lynx04]

IOA has Dueling Dragons, which basically Dragon Tower (the E-Ticket of Beastly Kingdom) redone to be different. Even if they do reconsider BK, unfortunately BK's E-Ticket Ride has already been done at IOA, so Disney would be stealing it (it truly is the other way around).

I think we are not giving credit where credit is due. Universal did not take DD from Disney, nor did Disney come up with the concept. The people make these concepts up not Disney nor Universal. These concepts belong to the people that think them up, and they only belong to the parks after they build it, or buy the rights. That is why parks are very secretive about projects. So until they are built they don't belong to anyone other then the person or persons that conceived it.

 

[peter11435]

I think we are not giving credit where credit is due. Universal did not take DD from Disney, nor did Disney come up with the concept. The people make these concepts up not Disney nor Universal. These concepts belong to the people that think them up, and they only belong to the parks after they build it, or buy the rights. That is why parks are very secretive about projects. So until they are built they don't belong to anyone other then the person or persons that conceived it.

That is not entirely true. While you are correct thet people not Disney design these things. By law if an Imagineer is working for Disney and designs a ride while working for them, Disney owns all rights to that ride. If you are being paid by a company to develop something they own what you develep. If this was not the case then thousands of people would work for a company just to get financing to develop something, and then take their ideas and inventions and get rich quick. A chemist working for a chemical company could develop a product with no cost for R&D, in fact he would be getting parid to do it, and then patent it himself and keep all the rights and revenue.

 

[Lynx04]

That is not entirely true. While you are correct thet people not Disney design these things. By law if an Imagineer is working for Disney and designs a ride while working for them, Disney owns all rights to that ride. If you are being paid by a company to develop something they own what you develep. If this was not the case then thousands of people would work for a company just to get financing to develop something, and then take their ideas and inventions and get rich quick. A chemist working for a chemical company could develop a product with no cost for R&D, in fact he would be getting parid to do it, and then patent it himself and keep all the rights and revenue.

That is correct. If they actually draw out designs and concept papers, in Disney's offices, then they become properity of the Disney. However, that imagineer can go over to Universal say I have an idea for a concept and tell them the concept and let them come up with their own design and it would be legal. The imagineer would get fired from Disney though. Also, if he took the documents that he did at Disney to Universal it would be concidered theft.

 

[Legacy]

That is not entirely true. While you are correct thet people not Disney design these things. By law if an Imagineer is working for Disney and designs a ride while working for them, Disney owns all rights to that ride. If you are being paid by a company to develop something they own what you develep. If this was not the case then thousands of people would work for a company just to get financing to develop something, and then take their ideas and inventions and get rich quick. A chemist working for a chemical company could develop a product with no cost for R&D, in fact he would be getting parid to do it, and then patent it himself and keep all the rights and revenue.

But Disney doesn't own the rights to a roller coaster, built by B&M, themed to a un-copyrighted creature (dragon) and archetectural styling (castle).

Disney doesn't "own" the idea behind Dragon Tower. Anybody could have created the general idea of a "dragon-themed roller coaster." It would just look like a rip-off if Disney built it now. THAT is where the problem lies.

In apperances.

 

[WaltMickey]

Please dont panic so much, it's a stage show that can be very easily moved to Africa.

What the heck?!?! Australia MUST be fake. PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME IT'S FAKE!

Are they taking down Festival of the Lion King? Will it be moved to Africa? FOTLK is incredibly popular, and I don't know what they would do with this show just to open Australia.

If FOTLK is really going to go after EE opens...

*Begins purchasing rice and flowers to throw*

Oh, wait. Those things are for weddings.

*Begins crying uncontrollably*

Someone, show me a source for Australia. FOTLK cannot go. IT CANNOT!

 

[peter11435]

But Disney doesn't own the rights to a roller coaster, built by B&M, themed to a un-copyrighted creature (dragon) and archetectural styling (castle).

Disney doesn't "own" the idea behind Dragon Tower. Anybody could have created the general idea of a "dragon-themed roller coaster." It would just look like a rip-off if Disney built it now. THAT is where the problem lies.

In apperances.

Exactly, I know what your talking about. But if any part of what became DD was designed by Imagineers while they worked for Disney, then disney would technically have the right to that part. This is why I don't believe the idea that parts of DD were designed by Imagineers for AK. However, it is more than likely that the people who designed the ride were once Imagineers.

 

[Legacy]

Exactly, I know what your talking about. But if any part of what became DD was designed by Imagineers while they worked for Disney, then disney would technically have the right to that part. This is why I don't believe the idea that parts of DD were designed by Imagineers for AK. However, it is more than likely that the people who designed the ride were once Imagineers.

I'll go along with the whole "The people who designed Dragon Tower also designed Dueling Dragons" simply because of the proposed story for Dragon Tower (at least what I have read).

The concept that you were trying to escape from the tower with the assistance of giant bats. You would be avoiding an animatronic, jewel-encrusted, fire-breathing dragon in the finale of the ride.

See? Completely different storys. The only similarities are, dragons, castles and inverted coasters.

 

[TennisPlayer519]

Disney doesn't "own" the idea behind Dragon Tower. Anybody could have created the general idea of a "dragon-themed roller coaster." It would just look like a rip-off if Disney built it now. THAT is where the problem lies.

I'm sorry. That's exactly what I meant. I'm not good at phrasing stuff.

*adds rip-off to my very small vocabulary*

Where would FOTLK go if moved to Africa? It's a pretty large tent.

Australia would be cool, but if they had to get rid of FOTLK, I wouldn't ever believe Australia will be made (until Lion King is the most hated Disney movie ever, that is).

 

[Legacy]

There is a nice little spot just to the left of the entrance to Harambe Village on the Africa side of the bridge where a new theater would fit quite nicely.

 

[Lynx04]

There is a nice little spot just to the left of the entrance to Harambe Village on the Africa side of the bridge where a new theater would fit quite nicely.

Do you think Disney would go through the trouble and cost to relocate the theater? Or do you think it would be better to leave it and build an attraction for the new land up against it to hide it. I have been over to that side of the park so I really don't know what space looks like over there, so I am some what ignorent when it comes to this.

 

[Legacy]

Do you think Disney would go through the trouble and cost to relocate the theater? Or do you think it would be better to leave it and build an attraction for the new land up against it to hide it. I have been over to that side of the park so I really don't know what space looks like over there, so I am some what ignorent when it comes to this.

The theater was initially designed to be temporary (which we all know), and was only recently enclosed. The theater though, is still not as grand or elaborate as the Theater in the Wild but rather a simply pavillion with walls. It also has a warehouse that houses the floats and dressing rooms.

The FotLK theater is cheap compared to the popularity of the show (much like Hunchback was). As such, if they want to keep the attraction open longer than 8-10 years, they will have to either rennovate the building or build a new, more permanent one. Considering the temporary nature of the attraction anyway, it would be better to simply build anew and use the Camp Minnie-Mickey site for something grander. All that area is are the meets (which can and should be dispursed around the park) and Festival (which will need to be moved anyway).

I say put North America there, South America in the area between Africa and there and Austrailia in the area where the train runs. Put the petting zoo in North America and put a smaller, more effective version of Rafiki's Planet Watch near the Tree of Life. Ditch the train, there is no need for it.

 

[imagineer99]

You bring up some good points, Legacy.

IMHO, I always thought the train was just to give guests another thing to "do" for five minutes.

Nevertheless, the theming of the train is pretty darn cool. Maybe they could recycle the engines and cars somehow.

 

[Legacy]

You bring up some good points, Legacy.

IMHO, I always thought the train was just to give guests another thing to "do" for five minutes.

Nevertheless, the theming of the train is pretty darn cool. Maybe they could recycle the engines and cars somehow.

The trains would actually fit within the North America section. I picture North America as feeling more like a northern railroad themed section. Lots of rustic sections, with a more relaxed feel. In that respect it would fit where I want Australia, but I don't think the area would be a powerful enough draw to sit in the back of the park.

Australia would.