Animal Kingdom Needs Attention

Model3 McQueen

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Original Poster
In the Parks
No
I think, and I could be wrong, that OP was being sarcastic. If so, it was very well done. If not, well, can't save people who don't want to be saved.

lol, let's just say I had fun with it ;) thank you.

There is truth to my OP though. I do feel like Everest needs to be better taken care of (hairbands, yeti, heavy vibrations). Harold at Matterhorn Mountain looks 100X better then Yeti at Everest, unfortunately. Better lit and it actually moves.

When I was at WDW I had a really cool conversation with a theme-park enthusiast CM. This is hearsay so take it as you will, but i'm not lying; he said Universal takes care of their attractions better then WDW (AS A WHOLE!! We know about that joke FnF lol).

No need to acknowledge such useless opinions. It's no secret DAK is superior to every park at WDW in both attractions and theme. A shame it's not appreciated by the basic minded.

Did you even read my OP or did you just type away at the title of the thread? ;)
 
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networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
I'm still miffed that we got Pandora and FoP instead of Australia.


Who cares about the silly alien parrot-dragons when Australia has mutated duck-beavers that can inject venom from spurs on their hind legs?
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"I can lay eggs and SHANK you! LIMITED TIME MAGIC!"

Australian wildlife won't hesitate to kill and eat you. Brown Snakes, 10 species of spiders, dingos, crocks, etc.
 

Scrooged

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AK has lots of shade. Nice on a hot day. And, ummm….yeah, that's pretty much it.

And if AK is a joke (notazoo!), Everest is a farce. Why some people rave about it is beyond me. Huge broken animatronic, remember? True, it's a fitting and horrendously expensive memorial to Robert Iger's oblivious greed and contempt for park guests, but it's an affront to the quality standards of Walt Disney. When I pay so much to visit a theme park, I can understand rides being down for needed refurbs and upgrades, but one remaining broken, yet running, for years because of corporate incompetence and indifference is, well, abominable. Damned if I'll ever ride Everest again. I bet Universal wouldn't neglect an attraction like this. Pitiful. Frankly, AK could shut down altogether and I wouldn't miss it. There are great zoos out there that eclipse it in terms of guest experience and are much cheaper (sometimes free). Pandora? PUH-LEEZE. Standing in line in a queue that features a giant blue kitty cat in a jar of formaldehyde (well, that's what it looks like) isn't worth the time or sore feet. Ick.
“Abominable.” Heh.
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CoasterSnoop

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I won't knock you for having an opinion. I will knock you for phrasing an opinion as fact. You might think it's an underwhelming park, but that doesn't mean the park needs attention more than the other parks. Epcot needed attention because FW's general aesthetic was twenty years outdated and aside from a Test Track update it fell behind on new experiences. DHS needed attention because the studio backlot theme was rendered obsolete by DVD behind the scenes special features years ago and Iger/Chapek felt it was time to take the park in a new direction. Could DAK use some attention? Sure, but it sure isn't falling apart like the other two were.

I also thought it was interesting the way you gauged how much attention a park needs by how much attention it's receiving right now. Yes, MK is receiving Tron and likely an SGE replacement and that's it, but that alone doesn't mean the park "needs" attention. MK is a big park that already has plenty to offer. While it doesn't have as much as MK, DAK also falls into this category of having plenty to offer already.

Dinosaur is a sad, pathetic experience with a barely functional Carnotaurus "chasing" you around a barely lit attraction in a fairly poorly themed land.

Pretty sure the Carnotaurus works much more often than it doesn't. Otherwise, I don't know what you think is "sad" or "pathetic" about it. It's not my first choice, but the theming is really nice, the way the animatronics look and move is cool, the whole attraction is under a "strict time limit" that ends with you narrowly escaping the jaws of a dinosaur and a large meteor, I could keep going. I don't know what "barely-lit" is supposed to mean. The attraction is supposed to take place at a prehistoric nighttime. It's also a dark ride. Dinoland could absolutely be replaced though, and is likely high on Disney's priority list after DHS and Epcot's redevelopments as far as replacements are concerned.

But at least it functions, compared to the yeti that isn't half as good looking as Harold over at Disneyland. A beautifully made attraction which is falling flat on it's face with a hairband shrine and some vibration-heavy trains / broken effects.

I want the Yeti to work as much as the next guy, but it hardly hurts the experience of Everest. It breaking surely doesn't keep the ride from functioning. It's still a very solid coaster with in-depth theming, a story told entirely through visuals, and impressive technology. The Yeti is more the icing on the cake, and while it's become somewhat of an unofficial symbol of present-day Disney's greed, the ride itself is still a breathtaking experience even without the moving boy. I'm also not entirely sure how some headbands ruin the ride, but that's hardly something Disney can control. I remember reading accounts from Everest CMs on how they'd get rid of the headbands, and within about an hour they'd all be back. Everest never really was an effects-heavy ride either. I'd love for the mist to come back, but again, is that really going to make the difference between you enjoying the ride and disliking it? If you don't like the ride now, I doubt you'll like it after one or two extra things are added back in. But then again, that bird-on-a-stick did definitely set this ride up from an 8/10 to a 9/10.

Also, are you seriously suggesting Matterhorn's Abominable is that much better-looking than my avatar? At least if Everest's Yeti were to jump out at me, I'd believe for a split-second that there really was an angry hairball with teeth and red eyes trying to grab me. Matterhorn's is cool too, don't get me wrong. But just look at Everest's Yeti.

Let's go to the best thing ever made, Avatar Land, where FoP graces you with it's 300+ minute daily wait.. I blame this on the lack of rides at the park in general.

When Tron gets a 300+ minute daily wait, are you going to blame it on MK's lack of rides? While DAK could absolutely use more attractions, that never really was the focus of the park. The biggest reason FOP gets the long wait that it does is it's still relatively new and still very impressive. That and hourly capacity.

Rafiki's Planet Watch is, what, seasonal now? Really?

And as with every Disney attraction that has ever gone seasonal except Carousel of Progress, it will close soon, likely to be replaced with something new soon after. Pretty sure this is an example of DAK getting attention.

Hey, AK has some amazing things to it. The themeing really is great on an overall level, and it has some offerings i'm particularly fond of such as ITTBAB, NRJ, um.. animals and Kilimanjaro Safari.

See this is where I think you miss the point. With the obvious exception of Chester & Hester's, the theming is very impressive as you say. A theme park is about more than just the rides. It's supposed to also be about the experience, atmosphere, and escapism. DAK throws you into beautiful settings with a very strong attention to detail. It's one of the few parks I can think of where I could get a lot out of it by just sitting at a bench for 30 minutes and just stare at something. MK is already a ride-focused park. I think DAK could use a few more, but balance is key. I think right now because of the overall experience it creates, DAK is my favorite. But, unlike you, I'm a fan of the big attractions that currently exist, so maybe that's where it falls short for you. I think, for me, there's still a slight lack of attractions, but the park doesn't need much more.

Please Note: I'm not much of a show watcher, so I did miss out on Lion King, Nemo.

But that didn't stop you from talking about Up. Which, I'm not going to disagree with you that the Up show is pretty bad, it just seems convenient to me that you'd bring it up in your argument for why DAK stinks and not the other shows. I'll always recommend Lion King. That show's a lot of fun to watch.
 

Michael T

Member
I wouldn't say it needs attention as a whole immediately. However, I would say that it needs help for the nighttime aspect of the park. Disney made a big deal about how the park would be open later with new experiences for the night. Pandora is wonderful to go to at night. However, the biggest problem with the park at night is how it feels like it has closed for the night. Many attractions are now closing early. The nighttime safari closes way before the park closes. Kali River Rapids closes early. Dinosaur has closed early in the past. Many parts of the park close early. If you want to see what I mean, just go to Africa at 9:00 at night. Sometimes they have dance parties, but usually it is practically abandoned for the night. I like Rivers of Light, but this park needs to stop cutting back for the nighttime part of the park.
 

Model3 McQueen

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Original Poster
In the Parks
No
I won't knock you for having an opinion. I will knock you for phrasing an opinion as fact. You might think it's an underwhelming park, but that doesn't mean the park needs attention more than the other parks. Epcot needed attention because FW's general aesthetic was twenty years outdated and aside from a Test Track update it fell behind on new experiences. DHS needed attention because the studio backlot theme was rendered obsolete by DVD behind the scenes special features years ago and Iger/Chapek felt it was time to take the park in a new direction. Could DAK use some attention? Sure, but it sure isn't falling apart like the other two were.

I also thought it was interesting the way you gauged how much attention a park needs by how much attention it's receiving right now. Yes, MK is receiving Tron and likely an SGE replacement and that's it, but that alone doesn't mean the park "needs" attention. MK is a big park that already has plenty to offer. While it doesn't have as much as MK, DAK also falls into this category of having plenty to offer already.



Pretty sure the Carnotaurus works much more often than it doesn't. Otherwise, I don't know what you think is "sad" or "pathetic" about it. It's not my first choice, but the theming is really nice, the way the animatronics look and move is cool, the whole attraction is under a "strict time limit" that ends with you narrowly escaping the jaws of a dinosaur and a large meteor, I could keep going. I don't know what "barely-lit" is supposed to mean. The attraction is supposed to take place at a prehistoric nighttime. It's also a dark ride. Dinoland could absolutely be replaced though, and is likely high on Disney's priority list after DHS and Epcot's redevelopments as far as replacements are concerned.



I want the Yeti to work as much as the next guy, but it hardly hurts the experience of Everest. It breaking surely doesn't keep the ride from functioning. It's still a very solid coaster with in-depth theming, a story told entirely through visuals, and impressive technology. The Yeti is more the icing on the cake, and while it's become somewhat of an unofficial symbol of present-day Disney's greed, the ride itself is still a breathtaking experience even without the moving boy. I'm also not entirely sure how some headbands ruin the ride, but that's hardly something Disney can control. I remember reading accounts from Everest CMs on how they'd get rid of the headbands, and within about an hour they'd all be back. Everest never really was an effects-heavy ride either. I'd love for the mist to come back, but again, is that really going to make the difference between you enjoying the ride and disliking it? If you don't like the ride now, I doubt you'll like it after one or two extra things are added back in. But then again, that bird-on-a-stick did definitely set this ride up from an 8/10 to a 9/10.

Also, are you seriously suggesting Matterhorn's Abominable is that much better-looking than my avatar? At least if Everest's Yeti were to jump out at me, I'd believe for a split-second that there really was an angry hairball with teeth and red eyes trying to grab me. Matterhorn's is cool too, don't get me wrong. But just look at Everest's Yeti.



When Tron gets a 300+ minute daily wait, are you going to blame it on MK's lack of rides? While DAK could absolutely use more attractions, that never really was the focus of the park. The biggest reason FOP gets the long wait that it does is it's still relatively new and still very impressive. That and hourly capacity.



And as with every Disney attraction that has ever gone seasonal except Carousel of Progress, it will close soon, likely to be replaced with something new soon after. Pretty sure this is an example of DAK getting attention.



See this is where I think you miss the point. With the obvious exception of Chester & Hester's, the theming is very impressive as you say. A theme park is about more than just the rides. It's supposed to also be about the experience, atmosphere, and escapism. DAK throws you into beautiful settings with a very strong attention to detail. It's one of the few parks I can think of where I could get a lot out of it by just sitting at a bench for 30 minutes and just stare at something. MK is already a ride-focused park. I think DAK could use a few more, but balance is key. I think right now because of the overall experience it creates, DAK is my favorite. But, unlike you, I'm a fan of the big attractions that currently exist, so maybe that's where it falls short for you. I think, for me, there's still a slight lack of attractions, but the park doesn't need much more.



But that didn't stop you from talking about Up. Which, I'm not going to disagree with you that the Up show is pretty bad, it just seems convenient to me that you'd bring it up in your argument for why DAK stinks and not the other shows. I'll always recommend Lion King. That show's a lot of fun to watch.

Good response. I'll try my best to catch your points as i'm short for time.

  1. We coincidentally walked by UP while it was just starting, so we thought "why not". Nemo and Lion King are like Frozen at Hyperion in DCA correct? They're over an hour long?
  2. Yeah, Harry is better then yeti. Sorry to say :( Harold works, and he looks real good while doing so. The disco light on Everest Yeti is bad. Everest is amazing and has some wonderful features.
  3. Dinosaur isn't good, and it's definitely not in the same league as Indiana Jones Adventure. Indy uses many elements to make the attraction that much better. Dinosaur uses a few animatronic dinosaurs whom hardly move, and a few static figures that are meant to be scary? It's very dim as if the imagineers are trying to hide most of the attraction. For the record I don't want Dinosaur! or the Dino theme to go away, I just think it needs work.
  4. I think you have some fantastic counter points. I'm sort of rating the park as if it were more than just a zoo, and it is, but the stuff that's "more than a zoo" could arguably use some TLC.
 

TwilightZone

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Unpopular opinion moving yeti did and does not add much to Everest. If video tells the truth, you only saw it move for five seconds anyways. It's not like missing out seeing one of the pirates move or the shaman on Navi River journey. AAs you can see for a longer period of time.
 

Rumrunner

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Best thematically? Big fat yes. But it can't compare to magic kingdom with the giant gap in attractions. I personally love the AK but it needs an attraction boost. I know there's a few who don't agree and think it's fine as is, but if they had givin the park the consistent additions they should have. It might just be the best of the 4 right now.


AK has always been unique to us but this last visit in summer of 2018 for a family group of 12 and for 10 days left us disappointed. Can't even say specifically what it was but a once favorite place or ours was a let down. We went one day and never went back the rest of the trip.

One of the disappointments was the early closing of so many things at the park.
I did enjoy the great ribs at the Flame Tree as always.

Hope next time we get some of the old magic back.
 

Damon7777

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So you're judging an entire attraction based on ONE AA not moving? That's like saying Splash Mountain is a terrible ride because the AAs after the big drop stopped moving their mouths

Your comparison is absolutely flawed.


The Yeti is the sole AA and the star of the show. Splash showcases many moving figures.

When Yeti breaks 100% of the AA's on Everest are down.
 

The Pho

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Even I, pro ride replacement, think AK can sit out right now. The only thing it needs is a dinoland replacement, and I can wait for that while HS and Epcot get upgrades.

I’ll never understand why people always say this. Dinorama is usually the only part that gets widespread criticism, and it’s only a small portion of Dinoland. Why replace the entire land? Second off, do you realize just how much expansion land there is for that park? They literally have an empty spot larger than some of their parks, as well as other pads. Don’t settle for replacements, all of the parks need increased capacity over anything. Dream bigger.
 

Damon7777

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Look, how hard is it to understand:

If Bob has $1 and Jan has $20 and Lisa robs $1 from both of them, then
Bob has nothing and Jan still has $19.
They both lost the same amount of money but one is flat broke.
 

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