Analyst: Bookings soft at Disney World's moderate and deluxe resorts

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From Jason Garcia in Saturday's O'Sentinel, first two paragraphs:

Analyst: Bookings soft at Disney World's moderate and deluxe resorts

"Citing concerns about weakness at Walt Disney World's mid- and high-priced hotels, a Wall Street analyst on Friday lowered his earnings projections for the Walt Disney Co.'s theme-park division.

"Based on our tracking of hotel occupancy at Walt Disney World, we believe the value resorts are seeing slightly better trends than moderate/deluxe resorts" for the fall and early winter, UBS Investment Research analyst John Janedis wrote in a note to investors."

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BigRedDad

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I would consider myself solid middle class. With my money, I make a conscious choice not to overspend for a bed. Personally, I do not see $150+ per night worth it when I can get a value at $90. Over a week, that is a $400 savings.

Yes, I am cheap. My dad always said I could turn a Kingsford into a diamond from my back side.
 
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Ijones88

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I agree. I have stayed at every resort at WDW and although the deluxe hotels are nice, the money saved from staying at a value resort is nicer and they are just as much fun to stay at!!
 
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captainkidd

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Really no surprise. It's been said here, just as it's been said on every other Disney forum - Disney has overpriced all but the upper class with their Deluxe resort pricing. They're quickly getting there at the Moderates now too. I just canceled a reservation at the Wilderness Lodge in February and am renting points from a DVC member - Saving $700.

I love staying at the monorail resorts. My wife and I do pretty well, but I'm not paying Disney's asking prices for those resorts anymore.
 
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gardenia

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BigRedDad said:
Personally, I do not see $150+ per night worth it when I can get a value at $90.
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You get what you pay for. To me the values feel like Day's Inn. The moderates and deluxes are a million times nicer and worth it, IMO. So I'll continue to boost Disney's bottom line by staying deluxe.
 
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Computer Magic

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captainkidd said:
Really no surprise. It's been said here, just as it's been said on every other Disney forum - Disney has overpriced all but the upper class with their Deluxe resort pricing. They're quickly getting there at the Moderates now too. I just canceled a reservation at the Wilderness Lodge in February and am renting points from a DVC member - Saving $700.

I love staying at the monorail resorts. My wife and I do pretty well, but I'm not paying Disney's asking prices for those resorts anymore.
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I've stayed at a deluxe resort that last 4 trips and 5 out of the last 6 trips. I'm going back to a moderate next trip to cut cost.

I need to look at renting DVC points but I'm not a fan of the rooms. I don't get the vacation feel staying in a DVC.
 
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captainkidd

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gardenia said:
You get what you pay for. To me the values feel like Day's Inn. The moderates and deluxes are a million times nicer and worth it, IMO. So I'll continue to boost Disney's bottom line by staying deluxe.
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I stay mostly at Deluxes now because of my family size, but people that compare Disney Value Resorts to Days Inn have either never stayed at a Value Resort or never stayed at a Days Inn. It's such a ridiculous analogy.
 
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AndrewnPatricia

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Staying at Port Orleans Riverside for our 1 year wedding anniversary and we LOVE it! :sohappy:
Magnolia Bend is beautiful and close to food court.
The canals let us have fun with the boats and has a water taxi to Downtown.
Can not WAIT to gorge at the foodcourts after retuning from the parks.
Can almost taste the apple turnover...
85 days!!!
Here we come!!
 
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captainkidd

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DisneyJoe said:
At least from my perspective as a travel agency owner, I'm not seeing any downturn or drop in moderate/deluxe bookings.
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I have a friend who works for AAA travel, and he told me they've seen a tremendous downturn in booking for Deluxe Resorts. People ask about them, but when he tells them the prices, they book Value or offsite.
 
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miles1

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When we went in August we skipped our usual week's stay at a moderate and got a 3 bedroom condo off-site that was five minutes away for $520 for six nights. I love the Disney resorts, but I can't see cramming four of us in a single room when I can get a deal like this. In fact, it will be tough going back to a single hotel room after having that kind of space and access to off-site (read: cheap) dining. A comparable villa on the property would have been over $1500.00 for the week. I think Disney is starting to price themselves out of may families' budgets.
 
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captainkidd

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miles1 said:
When we went in August we skipped our usual week's stay at a moderate and got a 3 bedroom condo off-site that was five minutes away for $520 for six nights. I love the Disney resorts, but I can't see cramming four of us in a single room when I can get a deal like this. In fact, it will be tough going back to a single hotel room after having that kind of space and access to off-site (read: cheap) dining. A comparable villa on the property would have been over $1500.00 for the week. I think Disney is starting to price themselves out of may families' budgets.
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Oh, there's no doubt. It's been talked about for a couple of years now. If you had asked me 5 years ago, heck even 3 years ago, if I would ever stay off site, I'd have told you "Never." Now, I make more money than I did back then, and we're seriously considering staying off site for our next visit. The rack rates for the Deluxe Resorts is, too put it mildly, out of control.
 
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Becky

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Sleep, shower and spend the rest of the time in the parks stay value. Spas, boats, horse drawn carrage rides etc. then stay moderate or deluxe. Just my advice to myself.:D
 
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lbrad

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Unless Disney has some HUGE discounts offered ... our family of 5 will be off site next trip ... Tis a shame ... but as all have said NOT worth the extra $$$ :(

We always drive so no added expense for car rental...just parking fee on our days at the Disney theme parks. Plan to do IOA on our next family trip ...
no date has been set yet ... we shall see.
 
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Computer Magic

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captainkidd said:
Oh, there's no doubt. It's been talked about for a couple of years now. If you had asked me 5 years ago, heck even 3 years ago, if I would ever stay off site, I'd have told you "Never." Now, I make more money than I did back then, and we're seriously considering staying off site for our next visit. The rack rates for the Deluxe Resorts is, too put it mildly, out of control.
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IMHO (and I'll get flamed by some) Disney is trying to force DVC on guest. It is a cash cow for Disney and it guarantees guest repeat visits.

I have even thought about Swan and Dolphin as an option. At least I'm "onsite" but I would lose the dining plan. So I'll have to crunch the numbers.
 
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DW and I stayed at POP last October, and had a wonderful time. Did not eat at the food court as it seemed awful crazy:eek:. This December we are staying at POFQ for 6 nights:xmas: present to ourselves. I was actually somewhat curious to see if Disney might release a Room only discount for fall & winter. It's usually out about this time if offered, right?
 
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TP2000

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I'm planning a fall visit, but won't be staying onsite this time. That's a first for me. I generally rent a car, as I simply can't stand the thought of Magical Express and then being confined there and subject to Disney's ultra-crummy bus system to get around. (Only made that mistake once.) But I had always stayed on property.

This time I'm looking at the off-property resorts, and will be heading to Universal Orlando for at least one day to check out this Potter thing everyone keeps raving about. I might do two days at Universal, but for sure at least one day.

And I'm definitely staying off Disney property. I'm zeroing in on the Marriott Grande Lakes for now.
 
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captainkidd

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Computer Magic said:
IMHO (and I'll get flamed by some) Disney is trying to force DVC on guest. It is a cash cow for Disney and it guarantees guest repeat visits.

I have even thought about Swan and Dolphin as an option. At least I'm "onsite" but I would lose the dining plan. So I'll have to crunch the numbers.
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Won't get flamed by me. I agree 100% with everything you just said.
 
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