20+ years for any serious expansion??
spacemt354.. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you're in over your head. Please consider absorbing more before jumping in.. because I'm really getting short on trying to spell it all out for you time and time again.
The 20+ years comment is about the Magic Kingdom. It's well understood that any such comment would be about the MK.. which besides being nurtured into being the #1 in attendance in the world.. hasn't seen a major e-ticket style attraction added to it (or generally, even capacity..) in more then 20 years. The only ride really ADDED to the park since Mickey's toontown back in 1988 was Splash Mountain in 1992 and Alladin's carpets. Everything else has been a replacement of an existing ride - and you still lost other rides during that period. It took until from Mickeys Birthday town in 1988 (which was supposed to be temporary) to now in 2013 to expand.. what is supposed to be the top draw theme park in the world.
Structures and show element issues are what we have noticed ourselves, so it's already been established in our discussion.
'what we have noticed'?? It's not a subjective matter. The standards of show have been lowered by policy in the parks. Name any park, and you can just list out major show elements in several attractions that have been left broken or simply turned off and yet the attractions are still operated. Previous policies would not have allowed the attraction to open in that state. There is no subjectivity here - it's a change in operation and not a 'oops' but a conscious business decision.
"Poor" is a matter of your opinion. I'm assuming you are referring to DTD. I like some of the changes down there. I think the T-Rex restaurant is awesome. So "poor" planning is a subjective definition, because you might have wanted something else.
Poor is not a matter of opinion when you go from PI, to tearing it down to replace it, and then years later having nothing sold to replace it nor even anything promising enough to promote. I'm talking about PI - which if you have done any homework, would realize is what was opened as an entertainment district - not the shopping district of 'West Side' of which you assumed I was speaking about. Anyone as a customer who observes a business taking a prior business model, shuttering it, tearing it down, all with the guise of replacing the stuff with new shopping and entertainment - and then YEARS later, NONE of it has happened, nor is there anything the company is even willing to promote about it and wants to say calling that 'a poor business model' as simply a matter of opinion can simple GTFO because you're straining so hard you're gonna hurt yourself.
If someone tore down your local mall - with the promise of rebuilding it bigger and better. And then 4 years later all they've done is tear down the existing healthy businesses, but have yet to build anything or even name new tenants, nor are they even willing to say what they were going to replace it with, or what they are going to do now. What would you call that?
"Settling" to be a real-estate developer is also your opinion. TDO clearly feels it is more monetarily beneficial to them to add more resorts to their property. So they don't feel as if they are settling for anything. They are doing what they feel is right because people are filling the resorts up. So as long as people continue to come down, they are going to keep building resorts.
No - I'm talking about the development of the property. Celebration.. then deannexing it and jumping out of it. Flamingo Crossing... Golden Oak.. Four Seasons... etc etc etc. And the choice to sell property or try to make money by having OTHER people set up business and simply being the property developer vs. doing what you've done for the last 50 years of doing it YOURSELF is settling.
It's Disney deciding they think they can make money with less risk if they let other people associate with Disney instead of BEING DISNEY THEMSELVES.
And cutting park hours? What does Extra Magic Hours stand for then? And Disney just announced that they are extending park hours through August. The article is on this website.
It stands for you not knowing what the park hours were prior. EMH is largly a gimmick to make streamlined operations look like a 'benefit' to guests staying on property. The park's regular hours were longer prior - all the parks - not just the one with EMH. Yes, things weren't open to 3am regularlly, but parks like MK used to be open late on more days of the year.. and you didn't have crap like Future World closing at 7pm.
Yes. Low show standards are subjective
No - they are not subjective - they are company policy. In prior times, the requirements for an attraction to ride were different then they are now. This is not 'I think' - this is fact. The way maintenance teams were organized were different then they are now. These are not 'subjective' - they are black and white paper differences in how the park operates.
People who visit often will notice these things and be irked by them more than the typical guest. The typical guest doesn't notice that a mill is not working, or other tiny details a veteran disney goer notices
No - again, you simply don't know what people are talking about and dismissing it because you are in over your head.
Something like this...
Isn't something that only a 'vetern disney' person notices. The big freaking thing is SNAPPED OFF.
Here is an old article (several of the items in this have since been washed away when their area was taken over by something else) that gives you an idea of just how long these trends have been around and how stale and abandoned things have been.
http://miceage.micechat.com/kevinyee/ky042607a.htm
But that doesn't mean the issues at hand are not subjective to one's interpretation.
It's not subjective to those familar with the facts and have been following the company and product long enough to have actually followed the actions as they unfold. Instead some just calling people doom and gloomers because people are either oblivious or simply ignorant of the actual material.
