A random musing from yours truly...

LittleGiants16

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Friends, Romans, Imagineers, lend me your ears!

But for real, I just thought that I would post this thought in a thread so that everyone may see it. I know I don't compete much (ever actually) but in my time on these boards I've noticed a few developments that have taken place. If I may, I'd like to share them with all of you here.

When I first turned up on these boards, albeit without a username or anything like that, it seemed like everyone was posting ideas. It felt like everyone was doing their own thing and just coming up with their own ideas, which was cool to a degree. But it was kind of a bummer that everyone was doing their own thing and there wasn't much of any collaboration outside of the brainstorming threads which quickly descended into utter chaos.

Then, out of no where, came The Imagineer. For those of us too young to remember, this was, to my knowledge, the first large scale imagineering competition. @MaterA113 put it on (haven't seen him/her around in a while, I wonder where he/she is) and it was incredible. Every challenge was introduced with an elaborate storyline. The challenges were always well thought out, with each one getting progressively harder as the competition went. And the judging was always stern, but fair. All in all, The Imagineer was great, and it lasted for three seasons. But man those were some great days. With @stitchcastle, @mharrington, @KingMickey, and all the others, there were some great imagineers on the board back then.

Fast forward to last year when @BryceM held Master of the Parks for the first time. This competitions served as almost a revival of sorts for the imagineering competition, and the board as a whole was pretty excited about it. There were eleven of us competitors and three judges, and it was a great competition. Just as with The Imagineer, the challenges were always well thought out and were of appropriate difficulty for their place in the competition. It was a great comp run by a great imagineer, and for all intents and purposes was a success.

Now fast forward to now. Over the past year we've seen a proliferation of competitions to the point that it seems like there is never a time without a competition. It seems to me that competitions simply aren't special anymore. Since there are so many of them it's hard for the whole board to get excited about any one competition like we did with The Imagineer or MotP. Now, maybe this is just the old man in me, but I feel like maybe we've reached the point where there are too many competitions. Maybe we've gotten to the point where there's just nothing special about another competition popping up and competing in it.

Now I'm not saying I'm opposed to all comps, in fact I love the competitions. I've judged one and competed in another, but that doesn't mean I am not willing to point out the flaw I see with the current state of our community. I might be wrong. Maybe we don't have too many comps. That's for all of you to decide. I can only speak for myself and say that I think we need to dial it back a little. Maybe we ought to watch how many competitions we hold. I get that everyone wants a piece of the spotlight, but maybe that's not what's best for the board as a whole. All I'm trying to say is this: before you start a new comp, think about if it's time for a new one or if people need a break. We all have real lives and many of us have jobs and families. Let's just think before we post another comp every week and maybe, just maybe, we can return the luster to these championships of our board. Thanks for reading.
 

Sam Magic

Well-Known Member
Friends, Romans, Imagineers, lend me your ears!

But for real, I just thought that I would post this thought in a thread so that everyone may see it. I know I don't compete much (ever actually) but in my time on these boards I've noticed a few developments that have taken place. If I may, I'd like to share them with all of you here.

When I first turned up on these boards, albeit without a username or anything like that, it seemed like everyone was posting ideas. It felt like everyone was doing their own thing and just coming up with their own ideas, which was cool to a degree. But it was kind of a bummer that everyone was doing their own thing and there wasn't much of any collaboration outside of the brainstorming threads which quickly descended into utter chaos.

Then, out of no where, came The Imagineer. For those of us too young to remember, this was, to my knowledge, the first large scale imagineering competition. @MaterA113 put it on (haven't seen him/her around in a while, I wonder where he/she is) and it was incredible. Every challenge was introduced with an elaborate storyline. The challenges were always well thought out, with each one getting progressively harder as the competition went. And the judging was always stern, but fair. All in all, The Imagineer was great, and it lasted for three seasons. But man those were some great days. With @stitchcastle, @mharrington, @KingMickey, and all the others, there were some great imagineers on the board back then.

Fast forward to last year when @BryceM held Master of the Parks for the first time. This competitions served as almost a revival of sorts for the imagineering competition, and the board as a whole was pretty excited about it. There were eleven of us competitors and three judges, and it was a great competition. Just as with The Imagineer, the challenges were always well thought out and were of appropriate difficulty for their place in the competition. It was a great comp run by a great imagineer, and for all intents and purposes was a success.

Now fast forward to now. Over the past year we've seen a proliferation of competitions to the point that it seems like there is never a time without a competition. It seems to me that competitions simply aren't special anymore. Since there are so many of them it's hard for the whole board to get excited about any one competition like we did with The Imagineer or MotP. Now, maybe this is just the old man in me, but I feel like maybe we've reached the point where there are too many competitions. Maybe we've gotten to the point where there's just nothing special about another competition popping up and competing in it.

Now I'm not saying I'm opposed to all comps, in fact I love the competitions. I've judged one and competed in another, but that doesn't mean I am not willing to point out the flaw I see with the current state of our community. I might be wrong. Maybe we don't have too many comps. That's for all of you to decide. I can only speak for myself and say that I think we need to dial it back a little. Maybe we ought to watch how many competitions we hold. I get that everyone wants a piece of the spotlight, but maybe that's not what's best for the board as a whole. All I'm trying to say is this: before you start a new comp, think about if it's time for a new one or if people need a break. We all have real lives and many of us have jobs and families. Let's just think before we post another comp every week and maybe, just maybe, we can return the luster to these championships of our board. Thanks for reading.
Beautifully said, I urge us all to consider the problems presented by @LittleGiants16.
 

RMichael21

Well-Known Member
Friends, Romans, Imagineers, lend me your ears!

But for real, I just thought that I would post this thought in a thread so that everyone may see it. I know I don't compete much (ever actually) but in my time on these boards I've noticed a few developments that have taken place. If I may, I'd like to share them with all of you here.

When I first turned up on these boards, albeit without a username or anything like that, it seemed like everyone was posting ideas. It felt like everyone was doing their own thing and just coming up with their own ideas, which was cool to a degree. But it was kind of a bummer that everyone was doing their own thing and there wasn't much of any collaboration outside of the brainstorming threads which quickly descended into utter chaos.

Then, out of no where, came The Imagineer. For those of us too young to remember, this was, to my knowledge, the first large scale imagineering competition. @MaterA113 put it on (haven't seen him/her around in a while, I wonder where he/she is) and it was incredible. Every challenge was introduced with an elaborate storyline. The challenges were always well thought out, with each one getting progressively harder as the competition went. And the judging was always stern, but fair. All in all, The Imagineer was great, and it lasted for three seasons. But man those were some great days. With @stitchcastle, @mharrington, @KingMickey, and all the others, there were some great imagineers on the board back then.

Fast forward to last year when @BryceM held Master of the Parks for the first time. This competitions served as almost a revival of sorts for the imagineering competition, and the board as a whole was pretty excited about it. There were eleven of us competitors and three judges, and it was a great competition. Just as with The Imagineer, the challenges were always well thought out and were of appropriate difficulty for their place in the competition. It was a great comp run by a great imagineer, and for all intents and purposes was a success.

Now fast forward to now. Over the past year we've seen a proliferation of competitions to the point that it seems like there is never a time without a competition. It seems to me that competitions simply aren't special anymore. Since there are so many of them it's hard for the whole board to get excited about any one competition like we did with The Imagineer or MotP. Now, maybe this is just the old man in me, but I feel like maybe we've reached the point where there are too many competitions. Maybe we've gotten to the point where there's just nothing special about another competition popping up and competing in it.

Now I'm not saying I'm opposed to all comps, in fact I love the competitions. I've judged one and competed in another, but that doesn't mean I am not willing to point out the flaw I see with the current state of our community. I might be wrong. Maybe we don't have too many comps. That's for all of you to decide. I can only speak for myself and say that I think we need to dial it back a little. Maybe we ought to watch how many competitions we hold. I get that everyone wants a piece of the spotlight, but maybe that's not what's best for the board as a whole. All I'm trying to say is this: before you start a new comp, think about if it's time for a new one or if people need a break. We all have real lives and many of us have jobs and families. Let's just think before we post another comp every week and maybe, just maybe, we can return the luster to these championships of our board. Thanks for reading.
I agree 150%! I remember observing Master of the Parks before I was a member here and I could see the excitement across the boards. We should push to have less competitions of the Imagineer forum!
 

adv.bluedude

Active Member
Hey. Haven't posted much on here in a few years, but I just wanted to put it out there that another forum that I frequent with a fairly large imagineering community usually does about one to two comps a year with one being the larger "main event", and the other acting as a way to keep interest between seasons of the big comp. I would suggest looking into a system like this or similar. Just a thought from an infrequent poster.
 

Zweiland

Well-Known Member
I think the WEDCAR Race is pretty much a one time thing, since it would be essentially the same challenge if we did it again. So how about after that, we go on a 2-comps-a-year schedule? I vote to have Master of the Parks every year (if @BryceM is willing) and we take turns for who does the others.
 

jdmdisney99

Well-Known Member
I think the WEDCAR Race is pretty much a one time thing, since it would be essentially the same challenge if we did it again. So how about after that, we go on a 2-comps-a-year schedule? I vote to have Master of the Parks every year (if @BryceM is willing) and we take turns for who does the others.
IMO we don't need to have a "this comp happens then and this comp happens then" sort of thing. Comps will come and go (MoP might not happen some time in the future), so we should just let different comps happen. However, we could consult Steve about setting a certain limit on the number of comps here. I believe it could be more than 2 though, but we could also ask for limits on lengths (say one comp per season (Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall), but they couldn't be back to back (maybe 2 month length max).
 

RMichael21

Well-Known Member
IMO we don't need to have a "this comp happens then and this comp happens then" sort of thing. Comps will come and go (MoP might not happen some time in the future), so we should just let different comps happen. However, we could consult Steve about setting a certain limit on the number of comps here. I believe it could be more than 2 though, but we could also ask for limits on lengths (say one comp per season (Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall), but they couldn't be back to back (maybe 2 month length max).
I think that's a good idea. :)
 

LittleGiants16

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Guys I'm bumping this thread for two reasons. 1. I wrote it, Duh. But 2. A lot of what I tried to hit on hasn't really changed on the board. Take Sam's new comp. Not meaning anything bad but your comp and WEDCAR are similar. I don't think that's because you wanted them to be similar, but rather because there's not that much that you can do with a competition that hasn't been done. It's just one of those things that right now we're basically having the same competitions over and over just with different judges. Feel free to disagree with my thinking, but I feel I can speak for a number of us when I say that it's time to slow down on the challenges.

(By the way, if you're all good, you might be in for a surprise that you're really, really like. Use your imagination as to what it could be, but it's about that time of year and conversations have been had...)
 

RMichael21

Well-Known Member
Guys I'm bumping this thread for two reasons. 1. I wrote it, Duh. But 2. A lot of what I tried to hit on hasn't really changed on the board. Take Sam's new comp. Not meaning anything bad but your comp and WEDCAR are similar. I don't think that's because you wanted them to be similar, but rather because there's not that much that you can do with a competition that hasn't been done. It's just one of those things that right now we're basically having the same competitions over and over just with different judges. Feel free to disagree with my thinking, but I feel I can speak for a number of us when I say that it's time to slow down on the challenges.

(By the way, if you're all good, you might be in for a surprise that you're really, really like. Use your imagination as to what it could be, but it's about that time of year and conversations have been had...)
I completely agree. :)
 

jdmdisney99

Well-Known Member
Guys I'm bumping this thread for two reasons. 1. I wrote it, Duh. But 2. A lot of what I tried to hit on hasn't really changed on the board. Take Sam's new comp. Not meaning anything bad but your comp and WEDCAR are similar. I don't think that's because you wanted them to be similar, but rather because there's not that much that you can do with a competition that hasn't been done. It's just one of those things that right now we're basically having the same competitions over and over just with different judges. Feel free to disagree with my thinking, but I feel I can speak for a number of us when I say that it's time to slow down on the challenges.

(By the way, if you're all good, you might be in for a surprise that you're really, really like. Use your imagination as to what it could be, but it's about that time of year and conversations have been had...)
I agree. I've been laying low for awhile, so I don't know, I feel like I won't be fully engaged in a comp unless there is time between them. And just wondering what surprise you mean. Probably all good here. If you want to PM me to just talk miscellaneous I'd love another of those threads.
 

Sam Magic

Well-Known Member
Guys I'm bumping this thread for two reasons. 1. I wrote it, Duh. But 2. A lot of what I tried to hit on hasn't really changed on the board. Take Sam's new comp. Not meaning anything bad but your comp and WEDCAR are similar. I don't think that's because you wanted them to be similar, but rather because there's not that much that you can do with a competition that hasn't been done. It's just one of those things that right now we're basically having the same competitions over and over just with different judges. Feel free to disagree with my thinking, but I feel I can speak for a number of us when I say that it's time to slow down on the challenges.

(By the way, if you're all good, you might be in for a surprise that you're really, really like. Use your imagination as to what it could be, but it's about that time of year and conversations have been had...)
I'm not trying to rip it off and it's more of just an exercise, but I agree.
 

jdmdisney99

Well-Known Member
I'm not trying to rip it off and it's more of just an exercise, but I agree.
Yeah, I don't think it is the idea that they are similar, I think it's just that you started it while WEDCAR is still going. Perhaps changing it from a competition to a project where members can report back, gather constructive criticism and discuss their projects.
 

Sam Magic

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I don't think it is the idea that they are similar, I think it's just that you started it while WEDCAR is still going. Perhaps changing it from a competition to a project where members can report back, gather constructive criticism and discuss their projects.
That's more of what it is.
 

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